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(@stacymead)
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I AM HOPING FOR THE BEST
I PRAY EVERYNIGHT FOR ALL OF THE VICTIMS AND THE
POLICE OFFICERS AND THE FIREMEN AND THE DOCTORS AND NURSES AND EMT PERSONAL. i WISH THE BEST FOR ALL OF YOU

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK


   
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In response to the message that I will re-post below, posted on Monday by "justthefacts":

To Anon. yet again someone is blaming the US and UK for the deaths of Iraqi civilians under the sanctions imposed upon them. Unfortunately for those civilians they have a leader who does not give a flying •••• about them, or he could have satisfied UN demands for weapons inspections years ago. Are these demands reasonable ? Well let me see..... Saddam has started two wars with his neighbours, has slaughtered Kurds with chemical weapons ( mostly the elderly and children), has made repeated attempts to develop/acquire nuclear weapons technology, and will murder immediately anyone who stands against him. HELLO ! YOU STUPID IDIOTS WHO BLAME US/UK FOR IRAQI DEATHS. DO YOU REALLY WANT SADDAM RUNNING AROUND WITH WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION ? WHAT THE HELL ELSE IS USA SUPPOSED TO DO WITH HIM ? PAT HIM ON THE HEAD AND SAY "BE A GOOD DICTATOR "? this is perfect example of Arab world blaming US foreign policy when the root cause is festering within their own society.


First of all, I would not at all be surprised if Iraq is in some way behind last Tuesday's attack....in addition to Osama Bin Laden's "Al Qaeda" and any other of the vile terrorist factions that lurk within our borders and the borders of many other countries. Would anyone be surprised if it was revealed that Bin Laden and Hussein have worked together, or cooperated in some way, to mastermind the diabolical, evil plot against the U.S.?

Saddam Hussein is an evil, despotic, psychotic, power-hungry dictator who resembles many other evil, despotic, psychopathic, power-hungry rulers of history (unfortunately, the list is long...Idi Amin, Pol Pot, I could go on forever). The people of Iraq are enslaved because of his rule. He must be EXTINGUISHED from the face of the Earth. As for Osama Bin Laden...well, sorry but I can't post on this bulletin board the words I would use to describe him... must also be EXTINGUISHED.


   
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(@anotheramerican1)
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To justthefacts- You are obviusly someone who has kept up with the world. But what disturbs me about your argument is that you selectively left out some facts that, in a court of law, would be egual to withholding evidence. In so doing you have unfairly prejudiced the jury and in the spirit of full disclosure I have decided to answer your charges.

That America was an ardent supporter of Sadam Hussein's dictatorship is a fact. They knew full well of his atrocities with the Kurds when they sent him supporting funds and gave him the green light to poisin gas a generation of Persian youth and all other trouble makers in the region. They did this because he was a convenient foil to the ayatollahs minions of which they had some responsibilty for. Because the USA was also the strong supporter(read weapons and CIA expertise donater) of the Shah of Iran. The same shah whose death squads had the Iranians tap dancing their way to their graves if they opposed him. The reaction to the shah was what we have seen through time. The pendulum of political power always swings in extremes. Thus we had, what was then the seeds, of Islamic fundamentalism develop in the land of Farsi.

When the carpet bombing started in Baghdad, we, The USA, knew that the people of Iraq were powerless to dethrone Sadam. You even talk of their oppression in your post. In fact, it is widely understood that the reason the forces didn't continue on into Baghdad, and dethrone mr. Hussein, was that the American leadership were afraid of the potential suitors they saw waiting in the wings. They thought it was better to have the evil we all know. So how are these people not innocent?

In mentioning The Hon. Anwar Sadat, you made it sound as if it were the entire Arab world who were to blame for his death. Isn't that like blaming the entire USA for Kennedy's assassination or Martin Luther King's Or Bobby Kennedy's or even Malcolm X's? Talk about massive generalizations.

And you say that our leadership in this part of the world is always pure and circumspect but I do recall someone who was an active member of the Klan becoming a governor in Louisiana not too long ago. We have also had other very colorful politicians from that part of the country and the south(in the past?).

In mentioning Saladin you forget to mention that his claim to fame was in putting infidels to their death and defending his part of the empire(Egypt)from all. Including a great christian crusader of African ancestry called Prester John so I'm not so sure that he's someone you ought to bring up in this conversation.

When bringing up US foreign policy some of us are only trying to give a context to what has happened. The same way we have tried to understand what had made a man like Timmy Mcveigh do what he did. In doing this, some of us hope to shed some light on the situation so that we can avoid the same pitfalls. I personally would like people to understand that, just like when you have spilled wine or food at another's place, you should feel duty bound to clean up any mess, internationally,you have made. But do so in a way that does not disturb the political ecosystem of the region that is being cleaned.

So my friend instead of changing your moniker to "justsomefacts" try and include the entire case and your title will become gloriously appropriate.

May a higher being bless the righteous and all who stand with the righteous.


   
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(@anotheramerican1)
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To TV and Justthefacts - I forgot to mention to you that some of the most awful dictators also came from Europe, i.e. Hitler, Mussolini etc..
Again, please include all the facts or it begins to look biased and that's what got us all here in the first place.


   
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(@jackiekitchinkoepf)
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GABE- IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME GIRL (SINCE TERESA'S WEDDING) AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I AM PRAYING FOR YOU EVERYDAY! GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR DAUGHTER. MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU. WE WILL NOT FORGET! ALL MY FRIENDS IN OHIO ARE PRAYING FOR YOU AND ALL THE FAMILIES. NEW YORK WILL ALWAYS BE MY TRUE HOME!! GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS.SO MUCH LOVE. JACKIE


   
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(@stevettegolladaylinden)
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Looking for a childhood friend. Her name is Christel Wilson, originally from Webster City, IA. She works at a daily financial newspaper in Manhattan, last I knew. Have word she called in sick the day of the attack, and was not in the WTC, when they were hit or collapsed. Would like to verify she is okay, get address or email address. Looking for you Chrissy!!


   
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(@kabulisburning)
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A message to Sand Nigger and Kabul forever:

Don't you guys realize the kind of firepower that we have? You guys have like 20 mig 21's which are like 30 years old. If you put up just one Israeli pilot he could take out all 20 in a dog fight. You guys are going to BURN in hell along with Saddam and Osama. And NO, Allah will not save you! You know why? because you are not Islamic. You are just pure smelly, dirty, poor pieces of ••••! By the way your IP address is the same for all your pitiful little names. And yes, peopleI know have the power to trace that IP address to an ISP, and then to your, guess what, real name. My reccomendation: watch what you say about the US because you might be a terrorist as well.


   
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(@jackargetsinger)
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Looking for Marilyn and Richard Granald. Your family is anxious to hear from you! Please call Jack Argetsinger at 316-681-0197 or e-mail @aol.com">amica102@aol.com.


   
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(@alcurb)
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Jorge Leon's name was listed in the "survived" web site ( http://safe.millennium.berkeley.edu/find.php ) but his name was dropped from the list probably because the information couldn't be verified. Please, whoever submitted this information initially, please contact me at alcurb@yahoo.com. Jorge hasn't contacted his family and to the best of my knowledge he is still missing (I'm his cousin). Please, come forth with his location. Thank you.

Alex Curbelo


   
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(@mariacruz)
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I a looking for my brother Joseph Cruz. Last seen at 9:48 am in front of Tower Two World Trade Center.
Age: 47
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 190 lbs.
Eye color: Brown
Hair color: Black
Clothing: White tee shirt, Navy pants.
Jewlery: 1# Grandfather Chain. Guess silver and gold Watch on left wrist.
Call 917-468-9394
E-mail @aol.com">Helpfindloveone@aol.com


   
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(@anamerican1)
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Fellow Americans, We need to pray for our nation in these trying times. Let us all keep faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. Let every person accept the work of the cross. May God Bless America!


   
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(@creagan)
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Looking for an old friend Howie Milove. Works and
lives in city, though I am not sure where. If
anybody knows him or can let me know if he is ok,
please email me at:
shamrockteacher@ya
hoo.com.
Thank you. God Bless America!


   
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(@karynhmachler)
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I am looking for an old friend from high school, Carl (Trip) Mayer. Last I heard, he was working for Deutsche Bank. If anyone knows of his whereabouts and status, please let me know.

Karyn Machler
karyn62@yahoo.com


   
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(@karenrobeymiller)
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I AM LOOKING FOR MY X-HUSBAND WHO MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE NEW YORK AREA WORKING,BUT NOT ABSOLUTELY SURE.WE HAVE A DAUGHTER KIMBERLY LYNN KLEIN,HIS MOM'S MAIDEN NAME WAS JOAN DURRYEA,HE HAD 2 BROTHERS DAVID KLEIN AND RUSSELL OLIVER,HIS NAME IS WILLIAM CHARLES FREDERICK KLEIN 3RD,HE IS ABOUT 5 FT 10 IN.,BLONDE HAIR,MEDIUM BUILD WITH BEAUTIFUL BLUE EYES AND A SMILE THAT COULD LIGHT UP THE WORLD!!HE IS ABOUT 42 YARS OLD.IF YOU KNOW HIM OR IF YOU HAVE SURVIVED PLEASE CONTACT ME a.s.a.p.,HIS DAUGHTER AND I ARE ANXIOUSLY WAITING AS EVERYONE ELSE IS.THANK U FOR TAKING THE TIME TO READ THIS MESSAGE,GOOD LUCK AND GOD'S SPEED
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!
KAREN (ROBEY) MILLER


   
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(@smithal)
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Our hearts go out to all victims,survbivors and their families. Weare thsnking and praying for you in India.

Sailesh Mithal from Delhi, India


   
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