Anti-Gov't Rally Erupts in Serb City

By Donna Bryson
Associated Press Writer
Friday, July 2, 1999; 9:15 p.m. EDT

PRISTINA, Yugoslavia (AP) -- Thousands of Serbs in the northern city
of Novi Sad clamored Friday night for President Slobodan Milosevic to
resign -- the second, large anti-government demonstration to erupt in
Yugoslavia this week.

``Down with Milosevic! Where is the money? Where are the bridges?
Where is fuel? Where is electricity?'' read the main banner at the rally in
Yugoslavia's second-largest city.

Yugoslavia's northern region, and particularly its capital of Novi Sad, were
heavily bombed during the 78-day NATO air campaign. Three Danube
River bridges in Novi Sad were destroyed and much of its infrastructure
was damaged.

``Down with Milosevic!'' declared Mile Isakov, a member of the
Yugoslav parliament, as the crowd of 5,000 shouted back in approval.
``There will be no reconstruction while they (Milosevic's regime) are in
power.''

Milosevic and four top aides have been indicted by the U.N. war crimes
tribunal for atrocities committed against the ethnic Albanian majority in
Kosovo. Leaders of NATO countries that bombed Yugoslavia have
refused to help rebuild the country while Milosevic remains in power.

``They did not bomb us because we are guilty, but because we are led by
a fool,'' said opposition politician Nenan Canak. Demonstrators also
called for more autonomy for Vojvodina, a province in northern Serbia
with a large ethnic Hungarian minority.

Friday's rally was the second anti-government protest in Serbia this week.
About 10,000 supporters of the Alliance For Change rallied Tuesday in
the central Serbian city of Cacak.

In Kosovo, NATO reported Friday that American peacekeepers arrested
five Yugoslav soldiers Thursday, all in uniform and carrying Kalashnikov
assault rifles, who claimed they strayed across the 3-mile buffer zone by
mistake. NATO said it asked the Yugoslav government for an
explanation.

In Kosovo's capital Pristina, an ethnic Albanian celebration turned tragic
when British peacekeepers opened fire, killing one civilian and wounding
two, NATO officials said.

Dutch peacekeepers also captured six suspected Serbian special police in
Urosevac, a town 18 miles south of Pristina, who were equipped with
weapons, computers and radio equipment.

The presence of Yugoslav security forces in Kosovo violates a strict
troop-pullout agreement that required all Serb police and troops to leave
by June 20.

U.S. Army Gen. Wesley Clark, the supreme NATO commander, said
earlier this week it was clear that Serb security forces with connections to
intelligence organizations remained in Kosovo and could ``contest control
of the province'' at a later date.

The rebuilding process for Kosovo moved ahead Friday after U.N.
Secretary-General Kofi Annan appointed France's health minister -- a
founder of the Doctors Without Borders aid group -- to run the U.N.
civilian administration in Kosovo.

The United Nations was given the task of rebuilding Kosovo following the
peace agreement that ended NATO's bombing blitz and paved the way
for the return of 860,000 ethnic Albanian refugees. More than half have
returned, many to burned-out homes, since June 12.

Annan's choice, Bernard Kouchner, 59, was an outspoken proponent of
humanitarian measures during the 1992-95 Bosnian war.

``(He) has those qualities that I think the secretary-general said he was
looking for: vision, the ability to manage, and knowledge of the region,''
U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard said.

Annan also announced several deputies within the civilian administration,
including Jock Covey of the United States, who was a deputy envoy in
Sarajevo from 1995 to 1997 and a special assistant to President Clinton
overseeing the Dayton peace accords that ended the Bosnian war.

The chief U.N. humanitarian official in Kosovo met with local leaders
Friday to look for ways to end the cycles of ethnic killings and reprisals.
But after meeting for seven hours, the two sides found little common
ground.

``After everything that has happened in Kosovo, it was not easy to reach
a common text which will be acceptable for all to sign,'' Serb Orthodox
Bishop Artemije said after the meeting.

Kosovo Albanian military leader Hashim Thaci said both sides did agree
that Milosevic bears most of the blame for the violence and fear in
Kosovo.

In the Kosovo capital of Pristina, cheering Albanians clogged the streets
Friday waving red-and-black Albanian flags and firing weapons in the air
in an independence declaration.

``This is Independence Day! Today, I really feel it,'' said 23-year-old
Enes Emiri, shouting to be heard over the honking of horns, beating of
drums and chants of ``U-C-K!'' -- the Albanian-language initials of the
separatist Kosovo Liberation Army.

The exuberant chants changed to ``Thaci! Thaci!'' when the KLA leader
waded into the crowd, surrounded by bodyguards and flashing the victory
symbol.

The casualties in Pristina came during the celebration. Boris Ruge, a
spokesman for the peacekeeping force, said the British peacekeepers
killed one person and wounded two. He did not provide further details.
But witnesses said a young man on top of a car fired a Kalashnikov into
the air and the British returned fire.

To: Emina
Re: Boy oh boy we like this were on to you.So sweety stoppretending you just gave yourself away completely.

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P.S. But thank You for schmoozing anyways.

To Kissie.

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Yeah right. It gets more obvious by the day. To all of us.

Zoja

POW!! Fireworks! Fourth of July. United States Independance day!

Ejaculation on Broadway!Without our freedom and moral values, without Helldorado Canyon, Vietnam, The Good Ole Lynch , KKK, schoolkids shooting schoolkids, gay and crazy presidents many nations, or the whole world would now be under the domination of a Hitler,Mussolini,Stalin,Hirohito,Hussein, or, heaven forbid, a Milosevic. Now, heaven rejoyce, it's under the domination of Clinto The World's Below Average Size But Horniest D I C K.

How many of you peoples have had their asses pulled out of the frying pan with assistance of the USA Military, how many got their asses on that same pan for Uncle Sam always has to do something!

You may love my country, for WE TRY to help others hate others. We make stupid mistakes and screw things up , but at least WE TRY to do the right thing. Most of your people's nations would sit on their asses until it was too late. Now WE sit on your backs, whipping your asses.
So pop a fire cracker or even shoot a dictator for the good old Red, White and Blue today. If you are lucky , you might even have Halfbright do bl ow j ob to Clintoris.

THE SUNDAY TIMES, Sunday, July 4, 1999

Milosevic gambles on arrest of rival

by Bob Graham
Belgrade

PRESIDENT Slobodan Milosevic of Yugoslavia is expected to order the
arrest of a leading opposition politician this week in an attempt to
strengthen his authority.

Zoran Djindjic, the Democratic party leader and a former mayor of
Belgrade, has indicated that he will return to the capital after
spending most of the war in his native Montenegro. He faces arrest for
alleged draft-dodging and failing to report a change of home address to
the police.

Djindjic, 47, has toured European capitals in the past two weeks meeting
foreign ministers, including Robin Cook, and his arrest would be a
gamble for Milosevic.

Djindjic's lawyers have been told he could be imprisoned for up to 20
years for avoiding the draft. Although he denies he was served army
call-up papers, he says he wants to become a "political prisoner of
conscience" around whom the regime's disparate opponents could rally.

"Mr Djindjic will return this week to Belgrade knowing he will be
arrested," said Strahinja Kastratovic, his lawyer. "Then we will find
out who is the strongest man.

"He is prepared to do anything in the interests of the Democratic party
and the Serbian people to return our country to Europe."

Children as young as four were shot dead in Kosovo by Serbian forces,
British war crimes investigators said last night after they exhumed 12
bodies in the village of Bela Crkva. They included four girls ranging in
age from six to 12, and three boys aged four, six, and seven. All had
been executed with a single shot to the head.

ALBANIAN AND SERB LEADERS OF KOSOVO JOINT STATEMENT
JULY 2

In Pristina, the UN Secretary-General’s acting Special Representative,
Sergio Vieira de Mello, called together leaders of the Albanian and
Serbian communities to focus exclusively on the pressing issue of
security for all people in Kosovo. This is the first time that Albanian
and Serb leaders of Kosovo have sat down to discuss concrete issues.
They issued a joint statement calling for restraint and respect for
human life, which was broadcast on radio and television by the United
Nations mission in Kosovo.

The text of the statement is as follows:

Today, we have met at the headquarters of the UN Mission in Kosovo to
urgently address a problem that affects all the people of Kosovo:
people who want to return to their homes here, people who want to stay
here, people who have returned in the past few weeks, people who have
remained here throughout recent tragic months.

We have met to discuss security and human rights; in order for the human
rights of all people to be exercised they must be free of fear. They
must feel safe staying in their homes, going to their jobs, going to
their places of worship, visiting friends and family, taking their exams
at university, and going about all the other tasks of everyday life.

We know that we have to urgently address this problem if we want to
realise our joint goal of a civil society in Kosovo, a society where no
one has to have fear for his lie, his family, his job, or his home just
because of his ethnicity or belief. We are determined not to look back
but to look forward. In this respect we reach out to all national
communities living in Kosovo. In particular, we want to stop the exodus
of Serb, Montenegrin and other civilians from Kosovo and encourage the
return of those who have already left.

We have a rich common heritage. We want to preserve it. We therefore
call on everyone: stay in and come back to Kosovo. KFOR and UNMIK have
promised us that they would do their utmost to secure your safety and to
guarantee your future in your homeland. We trust them and we urge you to
do likewise.

Both sides condemn the crimes of the Milosevic regime in Kosovo.

Persons suspected of war crimes and crimes against humanity shall be
brought to justice. We support the role of ICTY. Peace can only be built
on justice, not on revenge.

We urge all Kosovo inhabitants, whether of civilian or military status,
to refrain and
to actively discourage others from any acts of violence against their
neighbours. Such
actions are unacceptable. Those responsible will be brought to justice.

We insist that the identity of all prisoners that have been transferred
to prisons outside Kosovo be made public and that they are immediately
returned to Kosovo to be handed over to UNMIK to be tried or released as
appropriate. We insist that political proceedings now being held in
Serbian courts cease. We insist that all political prisoners be released
immediately. We also insist that all People that are missing be also
immediately handed over to UNMIK. We support the joint efforts already
undertaken by human rights activists in the Albanian, Serb and other
communities, together with UNMIK and other nternational organizations,
to realise these demands.

The road to reconciliation will be long and difficult. There is no such
thing as natural
hatred among people in Kosovo.

We have to work together. As first steps we have agreed today:

-to establish a joint immediate line of communication among ourselves,
UNMIK and KFOR and to hold regular meetings such as today's;

-to issue joint messages of cooperation and reconciliation on TV and
radio;

-to establish a joint crisis task force, together with UNMIK and KFOR,
to be able to quickly address security problems whenever they occur
including in and around historical and religious sites and to organize
an early meeting among religious and spiritual leaders to call for
tolerance and respect for religious sites;

-and to establish, with the help of UNMIK and KFOR, local joint
committees involving different national communities to devise concrete
pilot projects to promote the gradual return of all people to their
homes, starting with Mitrovica and Gnijlane which can then be extended
to other areas.
end


The statement was signed on the Kosovo Albanian side by Kol Berisha (L),
Rexhep Qosja (LBD), Blerim Shala (Independent) and Hashim Thaci (UCK),

and for the Kosovo Serbs by Bishop Artemije and Father Sava of the
Serbian Orthodox Church in Kosovo, along with Dushan Ristic and Momcilo
Trajkovic for the Serbian Resistance Movement.

To: Zoya

Obviously, you both lost track. At least before I was presented with something more definite, than your recent Freudian musings. Evolving.

gNido,
UP Yours

I posted this article in its entirety becaus the NYTimes has (or had) a policy of not alowing visitors from outside the USA to visit its site. It's another article that like his prvious one will make your skin crawl. phil

THE NEW YORK TIMES

July 7, 1999

ATROCITIES

Acid and Smelting Vats Evoke Fear of Grisly Burials by Serbs

By CHRIS HEDGES

MITROVICA, Yugoslavia -- Some NATO officials and local residents say the mile-deep shafts, the steaming smelting vats and the tanks of hydrochloric acid at the Trepca mine here
were used as a vast disposal site for the bodies of ethnic Albanians killed by Serbian forces, and the International War Crimes Tribunal has agreed to investigate their suspicions.

Kosovar Albanians who live near the state-owned mine say bodies were brought to the mine in covered trucks escorted by Serbian jeeps and troop carriers. The first day they reported seeing the
trucks was Sept. 17, 1998, the day Serbs launched one of several major attacks to wipe out the separatist Kosovo Liberation Army.

The trucks continued to enter the mine frequently until a few days before NATO troops arrived in June, the Kosovars say.

Residents on the perimeter of the mine report that an unusual pungent, bittersweet smell, which they assumed to be burning bodies, frequently wafted up day and night from the chimneys that ventilate the huge, bowl-shaped smelting vats. No such smell,
they say, had ever come from the chimneys before last September.

Heavily armed NATO peacekeepers from France searched the mine when they first came to secure the area, despite what the French said were Serbian attempts to keep them out. The mine is
in the sector of Kosovo assigned to the French forces.

French soldiers reported to the tribunal in The Hague that they had uncovered piles of ethnic Albanians' clothes, shoes, family photos and identity documents in the smelting area and near the mine shafts, according to officers who have read the report.

The French also reported that the vats had been thoroughly cleaned before Serbian troops stationed in the complex left. The cleaned vats stood in stark contrast with the filth that characterizes the other parts of the mine.

There were several large ash heaps, the French report said, and French troops found numerous empty bins of hydrochloric acid.

There is growing concern among ethnic Albanians and human rights investigators that the evidence is being slowly removed or destroyed by Serbs still inside the complex. French soldiers who
were in the mine a few days ago say some of the piles of clothes and belongings have disappeared.

A tribunal investigator said the site is on the list to be inspected, but would not comment on the French report. He did say that he had heard that the area around the mine had been booby-trapped
and would have to be inspected with great caution.

An attempt to get to two sites inside the mine where stacks of clothes and documents were reported by French troops was thwarted by two nervous-looking men in track suits who carried
AK-47 assault rifles. Officials of the mine complex, where gold, silver, lead, zinc and cadmium are extracted, would not speak to
reporters.

No one has even an estimate for how many Kosovo Albanians remain unaccounted for. Thousands have disappeared from villages and towns across Kosovo and investigators from the war crimes tribunal are uncovering an average of one mass grave each day. There are some graves, like the well publicized one in Izbica, that have been emptied of bodies. At Izbica, 142 bodies remain unaccounted for.

"There are a lot of smelting plants in Serbia," said Yves Roy, an investigator for the tribunal working at the Izbica site. "If the bodies were taken to smelting plants in Serbia, we may never find them at all."

Some French soldiers speculate that bodies may have been submerged deep in the shafts. Aziz Abraski, an Albanian who was the general director of the mine in the 1980s, said that because the mine's water pumps are operating, the mine shafts are not flooded.

Kavja Buran, an Albanian who was once director of the smelting operations, said: "If corpses were trucked into the mine, they could easily have been disposed of in the vats of hydrochloric acid or burned in the smelting plants. The living could simply have been pushed into tunnels and had the air supply cut off. Mines are ideal places to carry out genocide."

Halid Barahi, the local representative for the Kosovo Council for The Defense of Freedom and Human Rights, who kept a daily tally of the trucks that entered the mine, said that at the end of
January every Albanian inhabitant in the Serbian-dominated part of Mitrovica, which surrounds the mine, was expelled and it became
much harder to monitor activities there.

The Serb-held part of the city became a killing zone, he said. "After January, Albanians who were taken by Serbs into this part of Mitrovica were murdered," he said.

Albanian leaders said they have implored the French to provide an armed escort to visit the mine and take samples from the ash heaps to do a chemical analysis.

But French commanders have refused, fearing such a visit could lead to a violent outburst in a city so bitterly split between Serbs and Albanians. "We are soldiers," said Col. Arnauld Bellynck, a
senior officer. "We are here to keep the peace, not investigate war crimes."

Phil this story is simular to the things that happened in Bosnia.So im not surprised.Although for everyone keep in mind that Not all Serbian people are capable of these kind of unworthy behaviour, Nor are all albanians.And it would be a good thing if there also would would be some more attention for the Serbians that fled from Kosova into the FRY and are not allowed to enter Beograd.

Emina

TO EVERYONE THATS INTERESTED

I put this news item here, cause it is a clear example of what i ment with there are a lot of Serbian people who want Milosevic out and further more are not capable of the cuelties some of the fellow Citizens, militaiary,Paramilitaiary and police have committed.
I strongly think that also looking to the innocent Serbians who really didn't know anything about this is in place.Just like with the Germans afther WW2

NOVI SAD COUNCIL TELLS MILOSEVIC TO GO. The town council
of Serbia's second largest city voted on 6 July to urge
Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic to resign,
RFE/RL's South Slavic Service reported. This is the
first such call by an elected body in Serbia since anti-
Milosevic protests began in June. In Belgrade, The
Association of Free and Independent Labor Unions said in
a statement that Milosevic's resignation will pave the
way for Serbia's return to Europe and enable Serbia to
shed the stigma of being a pariah state. In several
Serbian cities, local officials and anti-Milosevic
politicians appealed to the international community to
send reconstruction aid directly to Serbia's cities and
towns and not to make the Serbian people pay further for
Milosevic's wars.

Emina

Slob, listen. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated!

---

POLICE CLASH WITH PROTESTERS IN LESKOVAC. An unspecified
number of police attacked some of the 5,000 anti-
Milosevic demonstrators who assembled in Leskovac on 6
July. The protestors called for Milosevic to resign and
for the release from jail of local television
broadcaster Ivan Novakovic, who recently interrupted the
transmission of an important basketball game to announce
an anti-Milosevic demonstration on 5 July. On that day,
some 20,000 people turned out for the protest in a town
that was previously not known as an opposition
stronghold. On 6 July, a local court sentenced Novakovic
to 30 days in jail. PM

DJINDJIC CALLS FOR MASS PROTESTS. Some 10,000 people
attended a protest in Uzice on 6 July to demand
Milosevic's resignation, free elections, and an end to
controls over the media, RFE/RL's South Slavic Service
reported. Democratic Party leader Zoran Djindjic called
for two to three months of street protests in "free
cities" across Serbia to oust the Yugoslav president.
Djindjic proposed the following scenario: "The people go
onto the streets, the Church calls the people to go onto
the streets.... Serbia as a whole is in a state of civil
disobedience and general strike. He goes." Djindjic
added: "I can envisage that [beginning] in 10 days' time
in Serbia...each day at the same time all churches
ringing their bells to send the message: 'It's time for
you to go.'" Djindjic returned on 4 July to Serbia from
Montenegro, where he was hiding from Milosevic's police
(see "RFE/RL Newsline," 2 July 1999).

THE WARIS OVER
..... BUT IT WILL ALWAYS BE.

While we bask in the
glory of victory of good over evil
take some time to look back,
and review past postings.

How come so many people were so very wrong?

Remember the pro-Serb propagandist,
the insolent Nick.
Where is he today?
What is his opinion now that graves start to speak?

Has he learned anything?
Can he admit error in judgement,
does he recognize defeat?

How about the other Milo-Lovers
that we so passionately fought,
the pro-Genocide barbarians,
like Tokyo Rose Maja,
quoting Serb State TV

"Good is bad, high is low
black is white, Milo is God, etc."

Remember Bolshevik Basil?
Read his postings and weep.

Where are they today?
Feeling guilty for having supported Hitler II ?

Not likely !
These people have learned NOTHING !
Our victory is hollow
because we always knew NATO would RULE.
But OUR WAR for the hearts and minds
is as yet unresolved.

It's just that somehow
deep down we hoped
we could convince these lost souls
to find their way to the light.

But they are stubborn, I fear,
and they thrive in darkness,
...... even today.
Even today they favor Milosivic.

Guys, we did our best
We have led a courageous attempt
to teach them something,
but I fear we have failed.

The students did not learn,
therefore, the teachers did not teach.

Evenso, enjoy the fact
that they have printed their CACA opinions
for infinity, and their children
will read it all - some day.

How can they have been
SO VERY FU-CKI-N wrong?

NUREMBERG II