you call me 'wanker' and 'moron' and expect me to
presumably be intimidated at the thought of your
'losing your temper' and _then_ you say 'deal'?

let's just not communicate for now.
i dont envision dissing you straight up.
[if i'm 'insulting' you, you'll know, okay?]

and i wont further this asinine exchange,
assuming you're doing the same.

we can imagine we're doing it for kim.

not in the mood to offer much more right now.

and while it's not a secret, please quit using my
real name here. i'd appreciate it.

daniela,

thank you for yr. comment.

axually i e-mailed M'sieu Gunns after making that
remark on the board.

yeah, it would be neat to see him here again.

Daniela, I agree with you for once.
You were asking why I called myself Unicef....
maybe now you have an idea.
Look is there any chance of us starting over, I may not agree with what you are saying, but you seem to know what you are talking about.
I'm no dummy either, so just don't expect me to take everything you say at face value.

good morning, daniela.

yes, i heard from m'sieu Gunns after i mailed him.

he's dropped by to 'lurk', w/o comment, recently.

at the moment he was going through some
post-dentist's discomfort, but he may drop by
again once he feels better.

no doubt he'll be happy to have been missed.
well, you know what i mean...

mornin', mum!

i'll write yiz off-group.

L'menexe,
name calling is bad..and so was "get bent" remark. And so was my warning/treat (whatever you wish to call it). And so was your comparrison to Allam.

aw c'mon already...yeesh...

i dont wanna keep doing this here.

i didnt _compare_ you to allamFAKE.
but go back and explain what it was you were
'doing' to him for a couple three days. remember?
it seemed to me you went out of character, down to
his level.
you weren't being the FAKE; you were [insert one
of those pretend names] being _you_, out of
control. are you understanding this?

listen man, both of us can overreact at DMS. it
really isnt necessary for us to keep having these
scenes.

but, no fooling, dont get me wrong if i suggest
"go there" "do this" if the dreaded matthesson is
gonna stick around on the russ page.

he think he bad.
mr. "beggar bowl" himself.
his 'group' burns russian flags at these public
ceremonies he claims to be having.

axually, maybe suggestions aren't required. maybe
you can smell him a mile away. -_-

I don't want to keep on doing this either, I was simply responding to your post, l-chan.

Yeap, the Flagstaff-boy Roger is back..well, my predictions are he won't be around for too long - he is not a match to Allam when it comes to getting under the skin. I don't take Roger serioucely at all, he'll actually make a exellent target for the downtimes.

BTW, don't you think that if I didn't 'get down' to Allam's level, he woulda still been on Russian Page? Or am I just flattering myself and he didn't leave with our efforts? I hope that would explain my behavior back then.

Remember this:
""" WHO COMES WITH THE SWORD, SHALL DIE BY IT"""

by Alexander Nevsky, Saint
b. c. 1220,, Vladimir, Grand Principality of Vladimir
d. Nov. 14, 1263, Gorodets; canonized in Russian Church 1547

I might not be around till Monday (home computer's still in repair), so enjoy your weekend.

later, comradski 😉

L'menexe,
I like your expression "neat"...

Yes, Kim, whatever you wish.
The whole problem is not to believe anyone
but just look at the facts, numbers and results as a whole of this 'world politics business' - the poor guys in between always get the bad end of any deal.

good morning, daniela!

by golly, that friday night post of yours was
pretty...
[wait for it]
NEAT! <==
well, perhaps it wasnt quite the most appropriate
word in a place where _nothing_ is 'neat'.

but we agree M'sieu Gunns would be welcome here
these days...

and the part for kim was, heh, WICKED COOL, in the
vernacular. IMO.

i think i learned more of you in that post than in
the previous year.

worth bearing in mind.
thank you.

L'm

i, t'gunns, come
offering
peace, love, and bliss
to all
from
the City of St. Francis.

got granola, anyone?
:O) :O)

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~:O) oh, no! it's mr. bill!!

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for the record, i did stop by last night and took note of the cat fights (spill over from the ruski forum?). i wrote ya'll a looooong "can't we all just get along" message with a looooooong "listen to mommy " admonishment, but when i tried to post it dms's server went down and all my beautiful words were lost (weep, sigh).

what a surprise to return tonight and find you falling all over each other making up (sort of). :O) :O)

but if we're all gonna be nice to each other, what on earth will we talk (write) about??????? He, he.
hmmmmmm, i suppose that if i put my mind to it, i'm sure i could stir up something controversial -- but at the moment i just don't feel like it. maybe in a few days. i had my mouth sliced, diced, and stitched up last week. right now it's stuffed with 'silly putty' and some horrendous plastic and wire contraption, so i'm not feeling quite myself yet. er, uh, not exactly true. i'm kind of feeling my 'goofy' self, but not the combative self.

daniela, you go girl! :O) my regards to nicholas and make note that events in kosovo have given proof to his posts last year. ah, vindication, how sweet it is, eh?

did you read the jared israel article on susan sontag? very, very good. well written and oh so true. i especially like his reference to her as prostituting herself for the empire. ho, ho, ho.

gotta go. sunday paper is here with the crossword puzzle. it's what i live for these days (the sunday crossword) -- kinda sad, isn't it? jeeez, t'gunns, get a life!

later

Yo Baby Yo!

nice, or should i say [grin] neat to see yiz,
m'sieu.
my feeling is that an imbalance was forming, i.e.
'daniela vs. everyone else'.
mind you, not that the lady can't hold her own,
but i was coming close to doing the armor n' sword
routine on _her_ behalf, which would surely have
amused [her fella].

as it was toi and moi who more-or-less greeted her
upon her return a few months ago, it just wouldnt
do to now watch her get slammed.

i _don't_ have to agree note-for-note
w/individuals whom i respect.
i'd do well to remember that.

so hey, please pass through any ol' time...not
_too_ much later, 'kay?

Thanks Daniela,

I guess that is what I am trying to do.

Controversy you want, Mr.Gunns.
Ha, well, I guess there wouldn't be much chance of that, with you and Daniela in complete agreement and L'menexe sitting on the fence.(no offence and no pun intended L.).

I suppose I asked you too indirectly before to give me a synopsis of the discussions that went on last year. In what way was Daniela's friend vindicated?

Oh yes, whilst I'm here, any comments on Clinton's speach to the Duma?

Kim

i be quick
it's already past midnight & 6:00AM comes fast enough.

L'men - you are such a chivalrous and noble gentleman where the ladies in distress are concerned; so Lancelot-like, shall we dub you "Sir L'menex"? :O) :O)

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Kim Arx - fiesty little scrapper, aren't ya?

Controversy? Did I say I wanted controversy? No, I don't think so. What I DID write was:

"hmmmmmm, i suppose that if i put my mind to
it, i'm sure i could stir up something
controversial -- but at the moment i just
don't feel like it."

Subtle difference there.

>> I suppose I asked you too indirectly before to give me a synopsis of the discussions that went on last year. >>

Are you referring to a question you asked me about 2-3 months ago? . . . which I answered then heard no more of you until now.

>> In what way was Daniela's friend vindicated? >>

In light of subsequent events and revelations in and about Kosovo since June of 1999, much of what Nick wrote during the spring and early summer bombing of Yugoslavia, for which he was unfairly attacked, has been proven correct. A review of the archives juxtaposed against the reality of what was happening on the ground will clarify it for you.

>> Oh yes, whilst I'm here, any comments on Clinton's speach to the Duma? <<

No. I don't pay much attention to anything he says. His actions are gross enough. I only hope the Russians have wised-up enough not to believe him either.

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Daniela - did you get a chance to read Jared's article about the "intellectual whores of the empire"? It's always amazing how (so-called) intellectuals are so frequently duped and manipulated into the service of power. Not very intelligent, is it?

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. . . and that's how it goes on Tuesday, June 6th in the first year of the third millenium on the 3rd rock from the Sun. :O)

peace

Hello, Mr Gunns,

Thank you , thank you, >Takes a Bow<

Yes , well your response, three(?) months ago seemed pretty final. Re the UN. So I went away to search some other opinions. Still searching, no consensus found. So maybe you should tell me more.
Hey think of it as evangelism.

June 1999 ?- I guess there's nothing for it but to search the DMS archives then. Thanks for the Clue.

Now please, stiring up something controversial, would or would it not give you controversy. Don't
talk to me about semantic subleties.

As L'menexe would say I'm a cheeky Bench- so don't take it to heart.

What's all this about intellectual Whores?

Kim