To Igor.

Sure, whatever you say. Babble on... Whatever I say, serious or not, I'll get the same answer anyway.

Zoja

For Jack

I was just ready to ditch you guys for I do not fight against guys who only have blanks, but your particular ignorance has really struck me so here goes:

(if you want me to scoop up the names of Albanians then feel free to ask):

Victims of KLA (1998)

Part one

Killed

Djordje Belic (1938), from the village of Stepenice, Klina Municipality, killed from ambush with automatic weapon on 9th January at about 21.10, in the yard of his family house.

Muja Sejdi (1946), forester of JP "Srbija sume", department in Glogovac, killed on 12th January, at about 08.45, in the dirt road at the village of Gradica, Glogovac Municipality. Terrorists waited for him in the vicinity of his house and shot him by 28 bullets fired from an automatic rifle.

Desimir Vasic (1948), from the village of Korilje, Zvecan Municipality, contractor, committee member and member of the Executive Board of SO Zvecan, found dead on 23rd January in the vehicle of "Mercedes" mark, in the dirt road leading to the village of Bice. Shiptar separatists killed Vasic by 26 bullets fired from automatic weapons.

Mustafa Kurtaj (1971) was killed in his village of Gornje Obrinje, Glogovac Municipality, in the terrorist attack carried out on 13th February, at about 07.00. Several unknown persons met Mustafa at the bus station while he was going to his work in "PTT Srbija" - RJ Glogovac. They put an end to his life by a number of automatic rifle shots.

Murat Dajakaj (1960) was killed in the terrorist attack carried out on 20th February, at about 13.30, in the village of Lausa, on Klina-Srbica road. Several attackers opened fire from automatic firearms at the truck in which Dajakaj was sitting next to the driver.

Milorad Ristic (1938), from Djakovica, was killed in the terrorist attack carried out on 20th February, at about 16.00 in the village of Lausa, Srbica Municipality. Terrorists opened fire from automatic weapons at the truck with Prizren registration.

Alija Recaj (1960) from the village of Sicevo, Klina Municipality, was killed on 21st February, at about 17.45 near peasants cooperative "Dobra voda". Terrorists took him out of his house at about 15.00 and drove him by vehicle "Lada" to the mentioned place where they put an end to his life by shots from automatic weapons.

Slobodan Prascevic (1945), from Djakovica, retired commander of the Police department in Rznic, was killed on 2nd March at 16.00 in Donje Ratiste, Decani Municipality. Terrorists from ambush fired several shots at the passenger vehicle driven by Prascevic.

Berisa Saliju (1948), owner of the fuel station at Kijevo, his brother Avduljaj Bajram, truck driver, Zogaj Ibrahim (1940) and his sons Ramadan and Fadilj, as well as Salijaj Ibrahim (1950), all from the territory of Klina Municipality, were found dead in the morning of 6th April at the place called "Carevac", beside the road Orahovac-Malisevo. Three days earlier they were seized by armed persons in camouflage uniforms with characteristics and emblems that are formationally used in the army of the Republic of Albania. The killed were successful businessmen and loyal citizens of the Republic of Serbia and Yugoslavia.

Serim Desku (1955), from Klincina, Klina Municipality, was killed at about 11.20 in his farm field. Six terrorists shot him with automatic firearms. Being a loyal citizen of Serbia, Serim voted at the referendum the previous day.

Djemalj Krasnici (1940), from Klina, was killed by terrorists, since he was known as a loyal citizen of the Republic of Serbia. His dead corpse was found on 27th April at about 11.00, near the road in the village of Globare, Glogovac Municipality. Around him there were two missiles and 19 cartridges of automatic weapons most often used by terrorists.

Slobodan Radosevic (1934) was killed by Albanian terrorists. He was kidnapped on 23rd April at about 05.00 from his house in the village of Dasinovac, Decani Municipality.

Binak Bakaj (1943), from the village of Ponosevac, was killed on 4th May at 05.00 in the village of Bogovac, Klina Municipality. Terrorists killed him in front of his house by shots from automatic firearms.

Nenad Jaredic (1970), from the village of Josanica, Klina Municipality, acting director of the post office in the village of Dobra Voda, was killed with knife and then shot at head by a bullet from an automatic firearm. Jaredic's disappearance was reported on 4th May, while his dead corpse was found the same day at about 06.00 beside the road in the village of Orlate, Glogovac Municipality.



Postman Nenad Jeredic


Vejsel Krasnici (1951), from the village of Pusto Selo, Orahovac Municipality, forester in JP "Srbija sume", was killed with a number of strikes with mechanical arm and knife to all parts of his corpse and then shot with four missiles from an automatic weapon. Krasnici's corpse was found on 5th May at about 10.00 beside the road in the village of Trstenik, Glogovac Municipality.

Beg Sabanaja i Hajder Kuci, from Decane, loyal citizens of the Republic of Serbia, were killed by Shiptar terrorists by means of hanging and then thrown into a river. Their bodies were found on 6th May in Decani, in Bistrica River.

Mustafa Vebi (1956) was killed on 17th May at about 18.30 on the local road Kozur-Decane, in the vicinity of the monastery Visoki Decani in the terrorist attack performed from automatic firearm to the vehicle of "Elektrodistribucija" from Pec.

Avdulj Gasi (1949), from the village of Svrke Gasi, Klina Municipality, forester in JP "Srbija sume", was killed with shots from an automatic firearm. Terrorists took him out from his house on 7th May, while his corpse was found on 9th May at about 15.00 beside the road at the village of Volujak, Klina Municipality.

Ahmet Taci (1931), a loyal citizen of the Republic of Serbia, was killed by an automatic firearm. His disappearance was reported on 8th May, while his corpse was found on 10th May near the village of Loznica, wherefrom Taci originated, Klina Municipality.

Naim Krasnici (1953), member of the ethnical group of Gypsies, head of the registry office in the village of Crni Lug, Klina Municipality, was killed on 18th May at about 10.00 by shots from an automatic firearm.

Nedzat Pnisi was killed on 19th May at about 20.00 in the village of Smac, Djakovica Municipality. Terrorists armed with automatic rifles entered the village of shop, in which there were several persons, and fired a number of bursts.

Dalibor Lazarevic (1983) was killed by terrorists on 20th May at about 23.30 in the village of Budisavci, Klina Municipality. Terrorists attacked houses in which Serbian families live, took Lazarevic out of his yard and killed him with automatic firearm 5o meters far from his house.

Muhamed Sopa (1959), from Prizren, was killed by Shiptar separatists with shots from firearms. The corpse was found on 22nd May at about 06.00 near the village of Dulje, Suva reka Municipality. Terrorists had killed Muhamed first and then transported his corpse to the spot where it was found.

Sadrija Komoni (1933), from Pec, a loyal citizen of the Republic of Serbia, was killed by a shot from a firearm at the head, on 26th May at about 00.30. Terrorists made an attack on Komani in Pec, in the street Dusana Mugose bb.

Julka Djurkovic, from Decane, was killed on 26th May between 15.00 and 16.00 in front of her perents' house in Decani, in the street Cara Dusana bb. Terrorists killed her by a shot from firearms, which stroke her into the thorax area. The corpse was found by her husband Veljko, who after that committed suicide by a pistol.

Vidosava Simovic (1932) was assasinated in the terrorist attack made on 31st May in the village of Locane, Decani Municipality. Terrorists shot with automatic weapons at the house of Vidosava Simic.

Sesta Sausi (1965) was severely injured in the terrorist attack made on 2nd June at 12.50 in the village of Junik, Decani Municipality. He died the next day in the hospital of Djakovica.

Uka Taci (1972) was assassinated on 2nd June at 20.30 in the village of Kosuric, Pec Municipality. Two armed terrorists rushed into the house of Taci family and by force took Uka outside and killed him with automatic weapon in their yard.

Berisa Zumber (1939), from Krusevac village, Pec Municipality, was killed by terrorists with automatic firearms. His corpse was found on 3rd June at 13.00 in Bistrica River, near Pec.

Blagoje Jovanovic (1944) was killed with automatic firearms on 5th June at 13.30 in the village of Kostrc, Srbica Municipality. Terrorists shot at Blagoje's house and stroke him down in the yard.

Alija Bajram, from Donja Stubica, Istok Municipality, was assasinated by terrorists. They then cut off his head and both hands. His corpse was found on 6th June at about 7.50 in the village of Ukca, Istok Municipality.

Gasi Ajeti (1954), from the village of Babovac, Klina Municipality, was killed by terrorists with firearms. His corpse was found on 13th June, beside the road Magure-Sedlare, in the vicinity of the village of Laletic.

Zivojin Milic (1930), from the village of Sibovac, Obilic Municipality, was assassinated by terrorists with hits into his head and then several shots from firearms. His corpse was found on 17th June at about 17.00 near the village of Trnavce, beside the road Kosovska Mitrovica-Srbica.

Ismet Berisa (1972), from Suva Reka, was killed by terrorists with more than 30 bulets from automatic firearms. His corpse was found on 19th June at 7.00 beside the road Lesane-Suva Reka.

Oliver Zajic (1980), from the village of Duzevici, Klina Municipality, was killed by terrorists in the attack made on the inhabitants of that village of with automatic and sniper weapons as well as with bazookas.

Slobodan Radosevic (1934) and Milos Radunovic (1933), from the village of Dusanovci, Djakovica Municipality, were killed by Albanian terrorists. They were seized from their houses on 23rd April at about 05.00. Their corpses were found on 22nd June in the village of Dusanovci.

Slavko Skrkic (1956), from the village of Krnjina, Istok Municipality, was killed by terrorists on 22nd June at about 06.30 on the road connecting the villages of Rakos and Krnjina.

Rados Spasic (1945), director of "Laza Lazarevic" elementary school in the village of Kijevo, Klina Municipality, was killed in the terrorist attack made on 24th June at about 18.00. Terrorists killed him with shots from automatic and sniper weapons when he came out to feed his livestock.

Isa Sehu (1955) was found dead on 28th June in the village of Mamusa, Prizren Municipality, in front of a construction material warehouse. Terrorists killed him with shots from firearms.

Grujica Zmigic (1972), from the village of Drsnik, Klina Municipality, was killed in the terrorist attack made on 30th June at about 20.00, with bazookas, automatic and sniper weapons and by activation of hand grenades at Serbian and Montenegrian population of that village of.

Svetomir Bisevac, from the village of Leska, was killed by terrorist with arms and a blunt object. His corpse was found on 7th July at the spot called Ploce, beside the road Orahovac-Malisevo.

Gasi Marko (1972), from the village of Dobri Do, Orahovac Municipality, was killed by terrorists with shots from firearms and strokes of an axe at the head. His corpse was found on 17th July at the road Kosovska Mitrovica-Srbica, in the village of Brabonjic, Kosovska Mitrovica Municipality.

Aleksandar Majmarevic, Bora Simic, Vekoslav Kazic and Jagos Fildjokic, from Orahovac, and Andjelko Kostic from Retimlje village, Orahovac Municipality, were killed by Albanian terrorists in attacks on Orahovac on 17th July.

Hoti Abaz (1945), from Djakovica, was killed on 18th July at 18.00 in his field while he was keeping his cows, in the settlement Piskote, Djakovica Municipality.

Rados Krstic (1964), from Zajmovi, employee of the Minicipal Court in Klina, was killed by terrorists with a shot from a sniper on 20th July on the road Pec-Pristina, near the village of Zajmovi, Klina Municipality.

Adem Djuka (1971) and Bakir Djuka (1977), from Pec, were killed with guns by Albanian terrorists. Their corpses were found on 24th July at about 06.15 near the road in the village of Trebovic, Pec Municipality.

Bijupi Ljulzim (1961) was killed by terrorists on 26th July in the afternoon in the course of the attack on the village of Orlate, Glogovac Municipality.

Velimir Knezevic (1920), from Erec, was killed by Albanian terrorists with shots from automatic weapons, while his corpse was found on 6th August near the main road Djakovica-Pec.

Bakij Stavica (1960), from Orahovac, was killed by Albanian terrorists on 19th July, while his corpse was found on 6th August in Orahovac near Rimnik stream.

Hanumsaha Eminazeri (1949), from Orahovac, was killed by terrorists, while her corpse was found at the place called Padina in Orahovac.

Daniella, thanks for the good information. I too, am well aware of the questionable(at best) actions the US has made in the Balkans region over the past decade.

As far as justification for this US lead WAR(let's call it what is); let's look back into the history of this region for a moment. This region has always been of great strategic interest for many previous regimes, going as far back as the time of the Roman Empire through various empires all the way up till and including the current US New World Order that is in effect. In WWII, the axis powers attempted to break up the Balkans into small, "easily manageable' regions; and they almost succeeded- if it weren't for the stubborness of the brave Serbian people. They stood up to the Fascist advances of Italy, when the Albanians folded; they stood up to Hitler, even after the Croatian "Ustasha's" set up concentration camps, and killed many innocent Serbs. They fought several legions of Hitlers army, and even though they were eventually overun and defeated; their bravery and sacrifices must never be forgoten.

Now, tragically, the Serbian people must once again stand up to what many see as merely the most recent in a long history of Fascist-governments (after all, is NATO a democracy??) that is attempting to subdue and break up the Balkans into "easily manageable" (US controled) mini-states.

For those of you that disagree with these views, please at least be open minded on this issue, in spite of the American Corporate/Media's attempts to subdue the individuality of the American people. The Internet is the best truth seeking tool that man has ever had(besides GOD, of course). For the first time in Human history, WE have the potential to make this world into the one that we all envision deep down inside.
Disagreements on issues are fine, and are in fact quite necessary in order to come to a conclusion that best serves ALL people's of the world.

To quote Stephen Hawking in a song on Pink Floyd's pulse album:

"It doesn't have to be like this..." but "all we have to do, is just keep talking."

PS Anyone interested in learning about the ways that the Media functions in Democratic Societies, then read "NECESSARY ILLUSIONS"
by Prof. Noam Chomsky

(sorry 'bout the rant folks)

Later,

Denis, a Citizen of Earth; residing in America

http://www.zmag.org/ZNETTOPnoanimation.html

http://www.truthinmedia.org

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/tlander

Yugoslavia: How Deomonizing A Whole
People Serves Western Interests
May 06, 1999

Source: The Coastal Post - April,
1999

By Marie-Pierre Lahaye

In order to convince world opinion
that air strikes are a justifiable
threat against the recalcitrant
Yugoslav leader Slobodan
Milosevic, the international
community is relying on two
motives: the "brutality" of the Serbs
and the threat of "Greater Serbia" that could imperil the stability of the
region. These are two myths constructed by the West to justify its
intervention and prepare its domination of the Balkans. Let's start by first
exploring the validity of such an accusation that was made and still remains
against a whole people: the brutality of the Serbs.

To begin, we need to go back to the Bosnian war, which was presented
erroneously by the dominant media as an aggression conducted by Serbs
coming from a neighboring country (Serbia). Bosnia was then a
multi-ethnic Republic (one of the six that then formed Yugoslavia)
populated mostly by Muslims(43%), Serbs(31%), and Croats(17%).
While all had lived there for centuries, the Western media reserved the
term "Bosniac" solely to the Muslims. On the other hand, Serbs of Bosnia
were never qualified as "Bosniac" but only as "Serbs." This is how the
public was mislead to believe that they were an exterior element, coming
from Serbia, and that it was legitimate to chase them out. (1,2) Once the
civil wars erupted, the Serbs of Belgrade naturally came to the support of
their ethnic brothers, but contrary to common belief , they never took the
initiative of any intervention. To misjudge this fact, namely the difference
between a local upheaval and an outside intervention is to blame wrongly
Milosevic as solely responsible for the hostilities. (3)

The recent brutality of the Serbian Security Forces in defending Serbia
from the repeated attacks of the Kosovo Liberation Army has been
reactionary and possibly criminal, but to what extent can one say it has
been worse than the atrocities of the KLA themselves, or the brutality
shown by the Croats and the Muslims in the mid-nineties in Bosnia?
Violence and brutality are by no means exclusive to the Serbs in the
Balkans. The Western press, however, has certainly chosen its side. One
just needs to review the world media to be aware of how balanced
reporting -known to be not entertaining -remains a pious vow as far as
Serbs are involved. I will let David Binder of the New York Times speak
from his own experience :"In New York and Washington it is considered
politically correct to malign the Serbs on any and all occasions until it has
almost turned into racism. The Serbs are being demonized practically to
the point of excluding any reporting that brings about a balance." (4)

The role of U.S. public relations firms should also be exposed. According
to a U.S. Department of Justice official document, the Washington based
public relations agency Ruder-Finn served as a media counsel for the
Government of Bosnia-Herzegovina in order to "facilitate a greater U.S.
leadership role in the Balkans ...and to educate U.S. government officials,
including Clinton Transition Team members and news media reporters,
editors and producers to the continuing tragedy taking place in Bosnia."
The same document also acknowledges that Ruder-Finn during the period
from November 1992 to May 1993, rendered the same type of service
for the province of Kosovo for a fee of $230,000, consisting of a
"compilation of background materials and dissemination of information
regarding the brutal Serbian repression of minorities in Kosovo." This
provides clear evidence that a strategy of communications has been
carefully planned by the ethnic Albanians with the support of the U.S.
government at least five years before the violence erupted in the province,
specifically targeting opinion leaders in order to manipulate the mass
media against the Serbs.

It was not surprising, therefore, to see the U.S.-imposed head of the
OSCE (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe) "verifiers"
mission to Kosovo, William Walker, declaring his indignation at the
atrocities committed by "the Serb police forces and the Yugoslav Army"
at the recent "massacre" of Racak before the facts became known. Racak
is particularly important because this occasion was used by Western
diplomacy to trigger off the so-called "peace process," Rambouillet,
followed by Paris, which ultimately revealed itself to be more of an
ultimatum: "sign and submit to an occupying army or be bombed." In fact,
there are a lot of contested truths about the "Racak massacre." "The
account of two journalists of Associated Press TV (AP TV) who filmed
the police operation contradicts this tale" reported French television and
newspapers a few days later. (5) Walker is not an independent and
neutral observer, but a U.S. State department veteran who directed the
dirty war against El Salvador and Nicaragua in the nineties. According to
charges filed in U.S. District Court by independent counsel Lawrence
Walsh, Walker was responsible for setting up a phony humanitarian
operation at an air base in Ilopango, El Salvador. It was secretly used to
run guns, ammunition and supplies to the Contra mercenaries attacking
Nicaragua. (6) Why Walker was chosen to head the OSCE verification
mission in Kosovo remains to be seen, but it is clear that by speaking
before the facts were known, he guaranteed that Washington's version of
what happened in Racak became the official version.

Now let's see if the threat of a "Greater Serbia" constitutes a better
justification for bombing a sovereign state and intervening in their internal
affairs, thus violating the U.N. charter, NATO's own charter, and
international law. Having personally been to Kosovo and Belgrade twice
over the past twelve months, I never once heard a Serb talking of
expanding their territory. On the contrary, most Albanians I met took
great efforts to explain to me why secession from Yugoslavia was the only
solution they could envision. My experience with local people thus
contradicting commonly held assumptions, I started researching where the
idea of "Greater Serbia" came from. Most Western observers usually go
back to the ceremonial speech delivered by Milosevic at Kosovo Polje on
the 600th anniversary of the famous battle fought there in 1389. It is
commonly accepted in the West that it is this speech that ignited Serb
extremism. Journalist and writer Diana Johnstone went back to the original
speech and was able to explain that this myth found its origin in an
erroneous translation of a Serbo-Croatian word : "Quoting various
sentences in which Milosevic celebrated the restoration of "unity" (the
Serbo-Croatian word Milosevic used was sloga meaning "harmony" or
"accord"), Robert Cohen (7) interprets this as the announcement of the
goal of a "Greater Serbia" that would "unify all the Serbs in one state." The
word for political unity, as in "national unity," is however not sloga but
jedinstvo. This farfetched interpretation is the only proof such an able
writer as Cohen (who apparently knows the language) is able to produce
of the alleged "Greater Serbia" project of Milosevic." (8) Moreover, if the
ethnic Albanians succeed at creating an independent state of Kosovo,
"Greater Albania" represents a much bigger threat, as it could inflame the
ethnic Albanians living in Macedonia ( 23%), and reinforce the regional
enmities between Greece and Turkey.

These two myths of the Yugoslav disaster-the brutality of the Serbs and
the threat of a "Greater Serbia"- have abundantly fed the demonization
process that the Serbian people have been subjected to over the past
decade. From a geo-political point of view one will observe that this
ongoing demonization campaign was needed to justify the foreign policies
of sanctions, ultimatum, and now of air strikes. But one question still
remains to be answered: what are the Western interests in Kosovo?
According to Michel Collon, a Belgian journalist and author who has
extensively researched the geo-politics of the Balkans, "four stakes
motivate the great powers:

1) Dominate the Balkans, a key region to control the roads of
petroleum, from the Middle East as well as from the former-USSR:
Caucasus, Caspian Sea, and Kazakhstan.
2) Dominate Eastern Europe, juicy reservoir of raw materials,
skilled labor, and of markets for exportation.
3) Prevent Russia from controlling the above resources and of
becoming a rival to the Western powers.
4) Secure military bases. With the recent installations of bases in
Albania, Bosnia, Macedonia the United States will have Southern
Europe and the former USSR under control." (9)

Recolonization of the Balkans is what this is all about. This is part of a
long-term plan, implemented soon after the disintegration of the U.S.S.R.,
to dismember the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia into smaller Republics,
easier to dominate, in which to install and secure governments docile to
the doctrines of neo-liberalism. Willing to internationalize the question of
Kosovo, ethnic Albanians hoped to find in the West a reliable partner to
support their desires to secede. Ironically, they were also giving the West
a formidable opportunity to expand its domination on a region on which
they had been seeking to install, by force or by guile, an international
protectorate. "We have completely taken over the control of the
Balkans"-writes Lee Hamilton, a former US Congressman- "U.S. officials
exercise managing functions in all states of the former Yugoslavia. We are
virtually the proconsul." (10)

For all these reasons, I find the present ideology of invoking "peace" and
of positioning NATO as the "savior" of the atavistic Balkan conflicts to be
as racist as the colonial wars have been. What is worse is that it deceives
world opinion twice: by invoking "peace" and "humanitarian disaster
prevention" while at the same time bombing a sovereign country and
threatening the lives of innocent civilians. It is time that we wake up and
that we no longer let ourselves be fooled by Western propaganda and this
imperialism in disguise. The monster is not them but us who activates all
these enmities by arming their protagonists in order to justify our
interventionism. NATO and the West must get out of the Balkans before
it leads us to World War III.

NOTES:

1. Collon Michel, The Big Powers, Yugoslavia and the Next Wars,
Brussels, 1998, p. 15.

2. For the same reason we should not refer to the ethnic Albanians of
Kosovo as "Kosovar" as most of the Western press and diplomacy
have -purposely or no- taken the habit because it lets erroneously
imply that the Serbs although (still) legally at home in Kosovo are not
entitled to receive this appellation.

3.Dalmas Louis, "Bosnie:Ce qu'on ne nous dit pas", Paris, Octobre
1994, p.3.

4. Zivota Ivanovic, Media Warfare, The Serbs in Focus, Belgrade,
1995, p.5.

5. Chatelot Christophe, Les Morts de Racak ont-ils vraiment ZtZ
massacrZs froidement? in Le

Monde, January 21, 1999. p.2.

6. Wilson Gary, Warhawk behind U.S. Kosovo Policy/Amb. Walker
covered up real massacres in El Salvador, in Worker's World, January
20, 1999.

7. Cohen Robert, Hearts Grown Brutal: Sagas of Sarajevo, New York,
1998, pp272-73.

8. Johnstone Diana, To Use a War, in CovertAction, winter 1999, p57.

9. Collon Michel, Pourquoi le Kosovo s'embrase? in Solidaire, June
10, 1998, p.10.

10. New York Times, February 1st, 1999.

TO DENNIS.

There is some to say about your opinion. And i don't always think either that NATO is very smart all the time, but the Hitler is now not Nato, but Milosevic who drags also the innocent Serbian people under.

Let me put it this way if the real Hitler in the 1930 throught1040 would not have been stopped we all here in Europe would have spoken German.Also in the end the Serbian people.

That for everyone would have been a major bummer right?

No Jews anymore
No Polosh anymore
No Balkan countries anymore

All what would have been there where blond "wel educated" German speaking people.

With this cenario in mind no thanks. Milosevic is just another Hitler, I thank god that there are enough innocent Serbians even Serbian who can and are courages enough to say it outloud!

Emina

Ps the part that i also agree on is that i think that it would not be ok if Ameria keeps on deciding randomly at will which country is inportant enough to stand up for.

Every life where ever in the world is worth a milion