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Was that an afterthought?

oh, boy,
Kimmie, don't you have anything better to do than spit around? Go feed the kid or something. Making yourself usefull never hurts.

Here's an afterthought - next time I want YOUR opinion, I will be sure to address my post to "KA/nemesis", instead of "Allam".

"""."Everyone hates us......!winge, winge, What have we done to desserve this?"""

dear, you are the one who whines all the time, not me. Being hated = being feared. I don't expect you to understand, but THAT makes me proud. Ta-ta.

Paramilitary arms and munitions are getting scanty in Chechnya, and warlords clash with each other over them - suffice it to mention a radio intercept of a recent talk between notorious terrorist chieftains Shamil Basayev and Khattab, the latter of Jordanian extraction.


Sergei Yastrzhembsky, federal presidential aide, quoted the intercept to a news briefing at the Russian Information Centre.


Khattab made an alarmed report of a major munition depot hidden in a burial vault, which federals tracked yesterday. It was one of the many paramilitary arsenals detected by militiamen in Muslim cemeteries, said Mr. Yastrzhembsky.


Khattab also came down on tight-fisted Aslan Maskhadov, who would not give him enough money for the warfare.


In reply, Basayev complained of his aching leg, a part of which he recently had amputated with a bad wound.


Whatever Maskhadov may be saying about his clashes with Movladi Udugov, chief separatist propaganda-monger, they are in one cause, said Sergei Yastrzhembsky. To prove his point, he quoted Udugov's references to Maskhadov authorising a protest note after German intelligence officers visited

News from Bandit country

Russian Mafias Fight Bloody War in Crime Capital

SAINT PETERSBURG, Apr 19, 2000 -- (Agence France Presse) Saint Petersburg, former imperial capital of Russia, has been nicknamed the "capital of crime" amid an upsurge in contract killings in a battle between Mafia gangs trying to delimit their territory.

A Russian crime reporter, who gave his name as Viktor, said that regional governor Vladimir Yakovlev was being aided by some underworld figures who had helped him to win 1966 elections.

Viktor said that sections of the underworld were trying to boost their influence in the city, but were running into opposition.

The private television channel NTV claimed recently that President-elect Vladimir Putin, a former KGB operative, had won the loyalty of Yakovlev, mayor of the city, by threatening to reveal his links with the mafia.

Since the beginning of the year, 120 people have been murdered in Saint Petersburg. Police believed that 15 of the murders were contract killings.

In 1999, 33 people were killed under contract, according to the city prosecutor's office.

"A new gang war has broken out in Saint Petersburg, but essentially it came of infighting within one of the most influential mafia groups, the 'Tambov,' which controls the petrol market in the city," the Komosmolskaya Pravda daily reported recently.

Last July 29, Pavel Kapysh, 45, head of one of the biggest oil businesses, Baltiskaya, was killed in the city center in broad daylight. Some say he was trying to oust representatives of the Tambov group from his company.

On January 10, Ilia Waisman, 35, number two in Baltika, Russia's biggest brewery, was murdered by hired gunmen.

On March 11, 40-year-old Dmitri Varvarin, a businessman known for his support of pro-democracy parties, was shot down in the city center.

Two other businessmen have been killed in the city since the beginning of April.

No one has been accused for the killings, but the arrest last week here of Sergei Shevchenko, a local deputy and powerful businessman, on extortion charges, was seen by experts as a new stage in the struggle between different groups for control of the city.

Anton Ostapov, of the Sociology Institute of Saint Petersburg, said the city's problem was that the zones of influence of the various gangs were ill defined, unlike in Moscow where the mafia have settled most territorial claims.

Some 230 criminal groups operate in the former Leningrad, five of them particularly influential, according to non-official sources.

Alexei, a Saint Petersburg businessman close to one of the mafia groups, said there was not much difference between criminality in the city and in Russia as a whole.

"The murders of recent weeks are linked to the leadership changes in Moscow," he said, referring to Putin's presidential election victory.

"We must expect a new share-out of zones of influence in the country, linked to the departure of Boris Yeltsin and the arrival of Putin, because most of the criminal groups cannot function without some backing from within the powers-that-be in Moscow," Alexei said. ((c) 2000 Agence France Presse)

News from Bandit country
* Which one? The one with two persons shot dead in the apartment house for the elderly? Was it Michigan?

Yes, looks like very "humanitarian" "efforts".

Konbanwa, kisako!
so nice to see you!
yeah, it was outside detroit.
'which one' indeed.
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d-chan:
how about calming down a bit in regards to kim?

i correspond with her off-group; she ain't what you think. nor was her gesture of 'multiple identities', if you wanna use such a phrase.

if you were literally _hurt_ by the kim/nemesis thang, okay. you were hurt. i believe she addressed this matter on the board.

i think you've punished her enough. agree w/her or not, she's one of the most thoughtful folx here.
do you really want more 'allam' type attitude here?

maybe you should ask ms. mary about her, too. see what ms. mary says about kim.

once again i say, consider taking my word for it. time to give her a break. please?
so are you gonna cop a 'tude on me now as well? wouldnt that suck?
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watch yr mail, kisako....

By Kisako ( - 192.114.47.50) on Wednesday, April 19, 2000 - 09:02 pm:Yes Kissie that article is very informative,goes with the one I posted earlier.I hope Russia does not follow that route or I fear there will be a revolution.

Kim,

"Isn't it already being used?
Does that include foreigners like Bin Ladin and other foreign mujahadeen?
What in your opinion, would it take to end this ongoing rivalry. Is that possible?"

Bin Laden and other foreigners came later in Afghanistan's long and rich history. We have to first understand the early history of Afghanistan to deduce the contemporary situation and make forecasts of the future. As I have said previously, Afghanistan is an embattled product of foreign rivalries. Afghanistan exists because the British and the Russians, competing in this area during the nineteenth century, agreed to create it as a "cushion" (or buffer state) between them. The British tried to subjugate Afghanistan but failed miserably. The Soviets invaded Afghanistan in late 70's to put a lid on growing Islamic revivalist tendencies, the long coveted desire to reach warm waters of Arabian Sea, and to access the oil and natural gas reserves in the north.

There is little to unite the peoples of Afghanistan and much to divide them.
The instability in part due to ethnic diversity represented a perfect opportunity for foreign participants to intervene. Thus, the Soviets began to seen an opportunity in the country's weakness and decided to encroach upon the volatile region and prop up a puppet government. Ironically, this created a wave of anti-Soviet fervor and thus united the people of Afghanistan on a common cause. The mujahideen mounted a fierce resistance that ultimately led to a humiliating defeat of the Red Army. As they departed, the Soviets capped the wells of an emerging oil and natural gas industry.

As Afghanistan was recovering from the decade long destruction, the West as always tried to interfere in Afghanistan's "revolutionary" political process. The West's "pick and choose" policy led to the creation of a council representing some (but not all) factions. The situation, however, began to resemble that of the pre-Soviet past: a feudal pattern with a weak and ineffectual government in Kabul. The days were numbered and the country collapsed again in a tide of anti-faction rivalries.

I don't see any quick remedies as this tide of war continues. As long as the West keeps its support of the puppet government of Rabbani and because Afghanistan lies at the juncture of powerful "Islamic" states, the future is gloomy and uncertain.

L-chan,

#1 - Thank You for kind words.
#2 - yes she is one of the most thoughtful folx here.
#3 - I was just going to avoid any contact with her but she desided to get smart with me today, so to speak.

I like knowing who I am speaking with. Honest and up front. I mean we all do li'l tricks here and there, but I consider her name change more than a trick: first she wrote a pretty harsh(?)post it appeared that she was leaving for good, and literally shitted on everyones head. HERE'S THE POST I AM REFERRING TO:

""""Same old shite, you all deserve each other.

Thanks for your post Suleyman, I think there is a sliding scale of the board members from the right"all Serbs are murdering bastards to the left
" the sun shines out of the Serbs backsides".
I whould place myself one step to the left of you, and several steps to the right of Kissie and Dimitri.
However its all wasted on these idiots.
Kissie you're your own worst enemy- how the hell do expect anyone to listen to you? don't bother answering, just carry on with your silly game.
Had enough,
Goodbye
Kim """""

...and then she comes back as Nemesis..after what she wrote. Listen, L-chan, I am very well aware that you, Kim and Kissie communicate off board. Maybe after insulting Kissie, Kim decided to appologize, and that is why Kissie was so tolerant to her afterwords. She said "goodbye" for the
2nd freakin'time. And then she comes back again( two-faced creature)..AGAIN..after announcing her departure..with no guts..under a different name(that I can understand - it's not that easy to spit on everyone and come back like nothing happen). And you expect me to just swollow it. I WAS BEING YOU, SIR!!! Defending Kissie! And what do I see? After I confront Kim, Kissie(!!!) seems to get along with Kim just fine. I understand - off board communications and all - but did Kissie say anything about that to me? No. And that, my friend, is the price you sometimes pay for being a chevalier. So Kim shitted on Kissie, than made up with kisses and hugs, and I, the noble fool, am all along with my ••••••• honesty that nobody needs.

Do you get my point? If not - it's too bad. I as for your assumptions of possibilities of me insulting you - do not worry - as long as you're being the way you are right now, I won't dare to be little with You:) But do not ask for me to look at the KA/Nemesis from a diferrent point of view. I don't think she is honest ENOUGH to come with an honest answer ON this board as for WHAT made her write such post. Among other things. Dixi.


Cheers, Chief and gomen.
D.

It's been awhile...

Since then old friends split, board's nazi posted a relatively good joke, Dimitri labeled as "real funny" the punch line that stand-up comedians stopped to recycle probably 25 years ago (maybe earlier, before my time). Allam and Kim went flirting and we've got a new weirdo called "Chechenyonok".

Kissie is still here. Where is Laser? How he can stop fighting jews!? Oh, good old days, they gone.