I think sanity needs to be restored! LOL
* Look, who's talking.

To Kissie

Filthy secularist traitor, get of this board now
See your rabbi and begin the process of atonement.

Filth like you is destroying our country and the dream of Thomas Herzl.

Fred,

Have you heard of Chamberlin and his "Peace in our time" speech. When Hitler wanted that part of Tchechoslovakia that had a German speaking majority?

India/Eastern Europe- ????????? Seems an ethnocentric argument. No in that case they seperated themselves- I was just thinking that it is not a long term solution. However for Nato to go in and seperate. I guess its the British experience of a collapsing empire, Britain has tried the artificial split scenario several times, with disasterous consequences, some of which we still live with today.(Ireland, Irak, Isreal).

If I were in western government, I would seriously think about letting Putin be seen to be a strong leader- to help his internal policies.Then talk "Realpolitik" with him behind the scenes re his foreign policy. In the meantime its Europe's defence capability that stands to lose credibility at the moment. Get more troops in there, or give the Albanians an Ultimatum. Start cleaning up their act and stop playing into Milosovich's hands or Nato will pull out.

Kim

CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE NATO!

CONGRATULATIONS to all the peaceful people on earth, who want justice and truth to prevail.

Mark up another one for the good guys!

Another Barbarian arrested on a Rap sheet reminiscent of a "Gefferoy Dommer greatest moments video"!

Wonder what Karadzic and Mladic are thinking this fine morning while cowering in their respective rat infested cellars! LOL.

BTW - did you catch this rat's home - What a PIGSTY! This rat should have been arrested by the Health Authorities along time ago? LOL.


FYI Here's the acticle - you can find it at
http://cnn.com/2000/WORLD/europe/04/03/bosnia.arrest.02/index.html

""
PALE, Bosnia-Herzegovina -- NATO forces on Monday detained the most senior suspect to be arrested for alleged war crimes in the former Yugoslavia, an aide to former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic.

NATO Secretary-General Lord Robertson said soldiers detained Momcilo Krajisnik , who was under a sealed indictment by the International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia for war crimes.

Richard Holbrooke, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, applauded the arrest of Krajisnik. "This is a great day for those of us who have fought for a single multiethnic country in Bosnia," said Holbrooke, who worked to bring about the Dayton peace accords for Bosnia in 1995.

Holbrooke called Krajisnik "one of the worst of the people in the region -- a racist, a separatist, a war criminal ..."

Krajisnik to be transferred to The Hague :

Witnesses to the arrest said NATO troops with the Bosnian peacekeeping force detained the Serb leader after forcing open a door to his home in Pale, southeast of Sarajevo, with explosives. The French Defense Ministry in Paris said French troops made the arrest.

NATO said Krajisnik was being processed for transfer to The Hague, Netherlands -- where the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal is located.

"They took my dad away," Krajisnik's son Milos, 21, said. "Some of them spoke Serbian, some English but mostly French." He said he and his brother, Njegos, 19, were tied and their faces turned toward the floor during the arrest.

Robertson said that between July 1, 1991, and December 31, 1992, Bosnian Serb forces, under the direction and control of Krajisnik, then a leading member of the Serbian Democratic Party of Bosnia and Herzegovina, secured control of several municipalities that had been proclaimed part of the Serbian Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

"He is accused of genocide, crimes against humanity, violations of the laws and customs of war, and grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions, including murder, willful killing, extermination, complicity in genocide, deportation, and inhumane acts," said Robertson in a statement.

"This arrest -- the sixth since I became Secretary General -- represents the capture ... of the highest ranking person indicted for war crimes in the former Yugoslavia thus far. It is good news for justice, and good news for the people of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

"To those individuals who remain at large I will repeat what I have said many times before: The net is closing. It is time to turn yourselves in," said Robertson.

Karadzic still at large
Still at large are Karadzic, the No. 1 war crimes suspect in Bosnia, and his top general, Ratko Mladic. Krajisnik, Karadzic's senior aide for most of the Bosnian war, replaced him as the leader of Bosnia's Serbs after Karadzic was forced to give up public functions because of his indictment by the war crimes tribunal.

In The Hague, chief prosecutor Carla Del Ponte also urged the arrest of Karadzic, "who should stand trial jointly with the accused, Momcilo Krajisnik."

Holbrooke called on Karadzic to surrender: "This is a very strong signal that the handwriting's on the wall. He'd better read it. He ought to voluntarily turn himself in."

Holbrooke added, "He faces two futures now -- to spend the rest of his life on the run or else he can defend himself in the International Court of The Hague."

Tribunal spokesman Paul Risley said Krajisnik was one of "the individuals who ran illegal operations that resulted in the deaths of thousands of Bosnians."

"He was present at every meeting where political and military actions were decided upon that resulted in deportations, illegal arrests, ethnic cleansing and the deaths of thousands of Bosnians," Risley said.

Krajisnik became speaker of the Bosnian parliament in 1990, before Serbs walked out and the war began.

The dour, beetle-browed Krajisnik was the powerful speaker of the separatist Bosnian Serb parliament, which repeatedly stalled or rejected agreements brokered by international mediators to end the 1992-95 war.

Under the leadership of Krajisnik and Karadzic, Serb forces laid bloody siege to Sarajevo, purged Moslem and Croat populations from Serb-held territory in "ethnic cleansing" campaigns and sacked two U.N.-designated "safe areas," apparently executing thousands of unarmed men caught while fleeing the enclave of Srebrenica.

Krajisnik served in 1996-98 as the Serb member of Bosnia's first post-war, multi-ethnic collective presidency, but analysts said he used his position primarily to thwart any reintegration between Bosnian Serb and Moslem-Croat entities in Bosnia.

Lost bid for re-election in 1998
In 1998 Krajisnik lost his bid for re-election, defeated by a relatively moderate Serb leader, Zivko Radisic.

At the time, Serb moderates were wresting control of republican affairs from hard-line nationalists like Krajisnik who were refusing to cooperate with international peace coordinators, jeopardizing reconstruction aid.

Morning L'menexe,

I gave him a good rub-down and some fresh oats.
(He needed it). By the mournfull look he gave me, I think he is pining for you. But you may need to take him in hand,he was taking the bit towards the end, whilst I rode the wave of my own creation.

Lady Gwenevere, judging by this morning's post the score is now Board members 1- humanity 0.
I hand back to Sir Lancelot and bemoan the futility of my quest.

Kim

Allam.,

Yes, good news. Now lets hope the Hague, don't fall for anymore Bosnian government trained liars and actually get a conviction this time!
And before you jump down my throat, I will go in search of sites to show you what I mean.
Patience please.

Kim

Though the "investigations" by the "Tribunal" included 1991, the Commission remained silent about another, larger, event that took place between August 1991 and early 1992. In Western Slavonia both Croat irregulars and Croatia's newly formed army went on a terror campaign in which 189 Serb villages were destroyed, several thousand Serb civilians were killed, 70 Orthodox churches were destroyed, Serb priests and even a Bishop were arrested, while some 40,000 refugees fled in panic into Bosnia and Serbia. It was the massive Croat purge of western Slavonia's Serbs that invited the "modern" post-WWII "ethnic cleansing" which was pinned exclusively on the Serbs in 1992.

The story of the barbed wire fence played a prominent part in the trial of the Bosnian Serb Dusko Tadic, the first case heard before the
War Crimes Tribunal. Tadic was accused by witness 'L', later revealed as Dragan Opacic, of committing atrocities at Trnopolje. On 15
August 1996, Opacic made a drawing in the courtroom to show how the barbed wire fenced-in the camp area. Questioned by the
British defence attorney Stephen Kay, he insisted that the barbed wire fence had enclosed the entire camp.

By the end of October 1996, however, the accusations against Tadic with regard to Trnopolje had been dropped; the prosecution's main
witness Opacic had been exposed as a liar trained to make false statements by the Bosnian authorities. Opacic finally broke down and
admitted his deceit when confronted by his father, whom he earlier claimed had been killed in the war. Tadic's Dutch defence advocate,
Professor Wladimiroff, told me that he interviewed Dragan Opacic the day after he was exposed as a liar. Opacic said that the police in
Sarajevo had schooled him for the witness box by repeatedly showing him videotapes of Dusko Tadic and of Trnopolje, which he
scarcely knew. Prominent among these tapes were the pictures from ITN which were supposed to show Muslims imprisoned behind the
barbed wire fence.

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/lm-f97/LM97_Bosnia.html

Hey Kissie

You are a BIGOT!

Instead of celebrating this day for what it is; the capture and eventual conviction of ONE of the world's great criminals - You are too busy wallowing in your hatred and repugnance.

Thanks for letting everyone see you for what you are!

KA

So it was the journalists who were surrounded by the barbed wire?

WHY?

What's the name of the author of that article?

Allam. Ok this is probably "but they did it too".
What if we took the nationalistic terms out, the passage would read as follows

Though the investigations by the "Tribunal" included 1991, the Commission
did not mention another, , event that took place between August 1991and early 1992.
In Western Slavonia both irregulars and the newly
formed army went on a terror campaign in which 189 villages were destroyed, several thousand civilians were killed, 70 churches were
destroyed, priests and even a Bishop were arrested, while some 40,000 refugees fled in panic into Bosnia and Serbia. This massive purge of western Slavonia's ethnic minority resulted in the "modern" post-WWII "ethnic cleansing" with which the other side responded with in 1992.

Now we are talking about a military terror campaign on civilians, which led the opposing military to carry out an even more deadly campaign against ethnic minority citizens in their area.

Do you see the difference the nationalistic Rhetoric makes?

Kim

Allam, re the barbed wire, go read the link.
You want to get me sued?:o)
Kim

KA

From your artticale

"One night, while I was going through the pictures again at home, my wife pointed out an odd little detail. If Fikret Alic and the other Bosnian Muslims were imprisoned inside a barbed wire fence, why was this wire fixed to poles on the side of the fence where they were standing? As any gardener knows, fences are, as a rule, fixed to the poles from outside, so that the area to be enclosed is fenced-in. It occurred to me then that perhaps it was not the people in the camp who were fenced-in behind the barbed wire, but the team of British journalists"

What a perceptive wife she is - LOL... you girls on this board should be most envious.

Yes, dear, so should you, you should have such a perseptive wife.LoL.

Article in question is banned from all websites in Britain due to court ruling- now only available in Russia- so much for freedom of speech!

Kim

Rerun....

By KA ( - 137.138.245.69) on Monday, April 3, 2000 - 07:57 am:

Freedom fear on
website closure

Matt Wells, Media Correspondent
Monday April 3, 2000

A radical internet magazine has
become the first victim of a libel case
which has been seen as a threat to
freedom of speech on the web.

Outcast, which branded itself a "queer
current affairs" publication, had its site
shut down by its internet service
provider, Netbenefit, after a complaint
about material posted there. Netbenefit
said it had acted "with great
reluctance".

Last week, Demon Internet agreed to
pay £15,000 damages and £230,000
in legal costs to Laurence Godfrey, a
physicist who said he had been
defamed by two anonymous messages
posted on the net.

Internet firms are concerned about the
implications of the Demon case. If it
had not been settled out of court, it
would have established whether ISPs
are subject to the same libel laws as
other media. By settling, Demon
appeared to concede it was unlikely to
win.

Outcast expressed disappointment at
Netbenefit's decision. Its editor, Chris
Morris, said: "What we do is hard
hitting but it is carefully written not to
be defamatory." He believed Netbenefit
had overreacted, and said the
magazine would continue to be
published in print.

Netbenefit acted after a complaint by
the Pink Paper, another gay
publication, about the Outcast site.

Alison Sparshatt, the managing
director of Netbenefit, said: "We have
no wish to get involved in monitoring
websites. We are interested in
providing and hosting web services."
She added that the Demon case had
"far-reaching implications" and the
government needed to clarify the law.

Ms Sparshatt compared the role of
ISPs to that of a telecommunications
firm, saying the latter was not
responsible in law for slander over the
telephone.

Mike Ross, the Pink Paper's publishing
manager, denied stifling free speech
and defended his firm's actions.

He said: "Chris Morris contacted us
with a range of statements on which
he sought comment. We felt they were
defamatory and libellous.

"All we did was to send a legal letter to
the ISP and his printers. We said that
if he printed anything libellous or
defamatory, we would take legal
action."