yes, loc. I have one more prediction.

Clin sends his regards to the united nations, the international security commiittee, the international monetary fund and finally to all the people who live on Mercury.

Croatia is in the midst of three days of official mourning for President Franjo Tudjman, with a state funeral scheduled for Monday.


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abdulah

Hi locc

How are you today?
I hope you have better understanding between you and the muslims. I hope you stading the Holi Quran just for knowledge.

http://www.unn.ac.uk/societies/islamic/quran/naeindex.htm

You can visit or download it to your pc.

regards
abdullah

Grozny will be taken on December 20, Gantamirov says.

What happened to decmber 11,

Kepping dreaming all pro russian.

It is ok to dream, but should be under the control.


abd

The parallels between Kosovo and Chechnya are relevant only from one angle: "Do they [NATO members] have a right to criticize Russian conduct in Chechnya after using the same kind of tactics in Kosovo?".
The question formulated like this is not, of course, entirely honest: there was no genocide of native population going on in Chechnya that would lead to Russian intervention; Kosovar Serbs were not citizens of the NATO countries; the bloodiest part - ground troop opertaions - could be and had been avoided in Kosovo etc...
But, for the sake of the argument, let's forget about all that for a moment. Let's say: the NATO members are giulty as sin, and have no moral right to criticize. That doesn't answer any questions, however. "Shut up, they explained" - that is, so far, the tandem reaction of Russia and China (nice allies Mr.Yeltsin is recruiting lately).
I haven't supported NATO on Kosovo; in view of all the events followed and facts disclosed, I'm beginning to think that I was wrong.
I'd like the same to happen in the case of Chechnya, but I'd need to hear at least SOME proof of the Chechen involvement in the August bombings, and at least SOME ideas on what Putin is going to do with Chechnya after all the "toilets with terrorists" are blown to smithereens. In Kosovo, at least, 90% of population were pro-NATO. How many Chechens are going to greet the Russians as their liberators?
As for the mutual accusations and heated rhetoric - well, if this war of words had provided for some delays in the bombing and for some refugees safely getting to Ingushetia - good then, it was worth it.

Will the Russian flag fly over Grozny?

NEVER, NEVER, IF GOD WILLING.

By Kir Yakovlev ( - 165.117.54.183) on Saturday, December 11, 1999 - 10:35 am:
How many Chechens are going to greet the Russians as their liberators

Only the tratiors of chechnya and Muslim Munafick( Hypocrates)


abd

All the discussions of the IMF loans seem to be based on the premise that the loans are actually good for the economnies of the receiver countries, unless quantitatively stolen by some super-corrupt insider forces and transferred to Swiss bank accounts. In reality, the loans seem to have little positive effect in most cases. A strong argument could be made that they are mostly serving as rewards for irrational economic policies and as props for inefficient (at best) governments. (Isn't it interesting that the most successful economy of the Third World, Taiwan had been excluded from the system of international assistance by the pressure of Red China, and had to do everything on its own?)
To help the Russian economy, US (it's difficult to see Europe following suit) should abolish remaining trade blocks. If there is political necessity to make loans, re-structure them as to pay for purchases of equipment and supplies for small businesses. If there's absolute political need to give money to the Government - well, why not to follow the advice of Steve Forbes - make the timely salary payments to the state employees a condition. That will certainly do more to stabilize Russia than binding the loans to any particluar economic action (value of which we cannot estimate, since the data arriving from Russia is suspect, and in any case there are no working mechanisms of implementation and control).
Binding the loans to Chechen situiation is unwise for a simple reason: There are no significant forces in Russia opposing the war.
It makes no sense to pressure somebody who has no room to manoeuvre.

Brave and kind russian general

"we will destroy everything"- Michail Abdreevich,brave and kind russian general

In the end, we can recognize the Chechen war for what it is, at least in some crucial aspect: a colonial war in a crumbling empire.

This definition does not contain any moral judgement: from my point of view, Algeria would be better off now if it would be still associated with France, for example.

The truth is: every colonial power went through extremely painful and ugly period of parting with its colonies, even though it would be much easier and much better (not to mention much cheaper) for France, for example, not to fight the horrible war, but just let Algerians go.

Well, things don't happen like this. You can name exceptions, like US evacuating promptly from the Philippines, but we, Americans, never have been, historically, a colonial empire in any real sense; besides, we were and still are lucky to be on the ascending curve of societal evolution - economically,scientifically, politically, culturally (if one is willing to look beyond Hollywood and stuff). Russia is late, very late in having to deal with the same problems that bugged (and sometimes damaged badly) every other significant power of the world.
More is to come, in all probability. OK, what is our response? Wagging our finger two minutes every morning? The fact is, we are not prepared.
Military actions, even if justified, are clearly out of questions on Russian (or, God forbid, Chinese) territory. Trying to support and discourage specific groups inside of Russia is precarious, since there are no stable political trends and groupings in the Western sense. Most anything we do tends to cause bouts of paranoia in the traumatized imperial mind (see "igor"'s postings, for instance).
In the long run, the only thing that can help to an extent is stabilisation and growth of the Russian economy. Make "them" (potential chechnyas) interested in staying (Though motivations of people like "abd" seem to be utterly un-economical).
In the short run, be ready for waves and waves of refugees. US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Argentina: the best we can and should do as the next century is closing on as is to revise up and restructure our entire immigration policy. And then - even "abd" would agree - pray.

Kir Yakovlev - a colonial war in a crumbling empire

Thank you, very well said.

When Gorby came to power in 1985 (??), would you ever believe that the 1991 will be the last year for the USSR?
When Boris Eltsin stood up against putchists in August 1991, would you ever believe that in October 1993 he will use tanks against Russian Parliment? Or that he will sent army into Chechnya in 1994?

Now, only eight years after break-up of former Soviet Union and we are already witnessing Second (!!) War in Chechnya.
At the end of second millenium old colonial methods does not work any more. The break up of Russia will be a salvation to the Russian nation.


Chechnya will be Independent!!!!

The best state is no state!

World without borders, and no governmet
or alternatively -
Shamil Basaev for President of Russia

Year 2010 - Brown, brown Russia ......

And from every wall (like in old times) - Barshakov, Barshakov, Barshakov....

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No more Mr/Ms "Incognito", and no more multi-impersonating.