Well stated by Anti-Racist

Russians should stamp out the terrorism in their own capital, before venturing out into Chechnya.

Even the most hypocritical liars on this board know, that this terrorist campaign against Chechyna was initiated to keep (soon to be dead) Yeltsin and his loyal dog, Putin in power.

Luna

“Why is this barbaric war going on at all?” Did you just fond out about this war? One reason is Moscow bombing of buildings, which Chechens promised they would do. Chechens invaded Dagestan (Russia) There years of kidnapping and killing in the region (Russia didn’t care because Chechens were given independents and unlike West we did not wanted interfere with them, but they went too far, they invaded Russia) I think this is enough.

“Why is there so little media-coverage concerning Chechnya world-wide.” West doesn’t give a •••• what happens in there, they pretend they do but in reality they could care less.

“Who is financing this war? Russia is broke.” No it’s not, yet anyway. Read newspapers, west is not supporting this war financially at least officially. Just recently Japan gave Russia 300 million (it was more but I don’t remember exact numbers) take a guess where this money will go?

“Why is it that Europe, North America, the IMF and others do not immediately stop financial support for russia (and thus stop supporting this war)?” I mast admit this is not very bright question. IMF just recently said that they would not give money and even said it largely due to the Chechens conflict. It won’t solve anything, Russia doesn’t care about IMF money and everyone in there accepted the idea that we will have to do with out IMF money.

“Why is there completely insufficient help for the suffering refugees, mainly children, women and older men?” There is mainly from Russian government and I know it for a fact. Red Cross said it wouldn’t help until the war is over they even left the Chechnya territory due to the fact that Chechens shoot at them too.

“Why is there no political pressure to stop this genocidal war?” There is especially from Europe and U.S. but once again Russia doesn’t give sh!t. It is Russia territory and we dealing with it the way they deserve to be dealt with.

Same way US should clean its own backyard of rampant crime, mass muders and drugs before meddling elsewhere.
Roger Mattheson, You forgot to comment on that? Or is it, he-he, Russians again? Disgiused as school-kids with guns? Eh?

7 August 1999
The conflict begins with an invasion of the Botlikh region of Dagestan by militants from Chechnya. An estimated 1,000 - 1,200 fighters seize several villages and small towns on the Chechen-Dagestani border
9 August 1999
Shamil Basayev and commander Khattab inspect troops in Dagestan
Russian aircraft accidentally drop air-delivered mines on Georgia, near the border with Dagestan
10 August 1999
Government of "Independent Islamic Dagestan" declared by forces around Shamil Basayev
Newly-designated Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin promises that rebels will be crushed within two weeks
At a press conference Chechen President Aslan Mashkadov denies Chechnya's involvement in Dagestan
11 August 1999
Shamil Basayev claims leadership of the troops in Dagestan, ends uncertainty over who commands the rebel units. Basayev vows to expel "infidels" from north Caucasus
Islamic insurgents claim to have captured several Dagestani villages. Russian forces use helicopter gunships to counter the latest offensive, suffering ten casualties
12 August 1999
Russian Deputy Interior Minister Minister Igor Zubov requests Chechnya's assistance with the Dagestani insurgency in a letter to Chechen President Aslan Mashkadov; Chechen presidential press spokesman Said Abdulmuslimov tells the Russian press that the Chechen leadership refused a Russian request to send troops to assist in quelling the rebellion in Dagestan
Russian armed forces say that they had attacked insurgents' position in the towns of Tandur and Rakhta in southern Dagestan and had plans for a larger offensive; 300 Dagestani volunteers reportedly left for the Botlikh district on Wednesday to fight alongside their Russian counterparts
Russia's acting Prime Minister Vladimir Putin ordered the finance ministry to allocate funds for Russian troops involved in the conflict
Dagestani members of the Representatives of the Islamic Shura told reporters in Grozny that they had asked Chechen warlord Basayev to lead the insurgency in Dagestan, Vyacheslav Ovchinnikov, commander of Russian Interior Ministry troops, estimated the number of rebels in Dagestan at 1200
13 August 1999
Five planes from Russia land in Dagestan, bring fresh troops, weapons and supplies; Russia admits losing three helicopters, destroyed by gunfire while on the ground and wounded three Russian Interior Ministry generals, including the chief of the intelligence corps
Russia conducts fourteen airstrikes on rebel positions in Botlikh district
Russian Federation Council chairman Yegor Stroyev discloses that border guards were withdrawn from the border between Chechnya and Dagestan right before the rebel attack on August 7
15 August 1999
Chechen President Aslan Maskhadov declares state of emergency, denies involvement in the Dagestan crisis in a televised address. He accuses Russia of precipitating the crisis through supporting Islamic radicals in Chechnya
16 August 1999
Chechnya mobilizes reservists and veterans of the 19996 war with Russia, 5,000 people at a rally in the capital of Grozny protest hostilities in Dagestan
President Yeltsin rules out imposing a state of emergency in Russia, claims the situation in the country is "normal." His envoy to the Russian Duma asks the legislators to approve a law on state of emergency, saying that Dagestan conflict proves that "this law is essential."
17 August 1999
Colonel-General Viktor Kazantsev takes over Dagestan operation from Colonel-General Vyacheslav Ovchinnikov, formally marking the transition of command from the Interior Ministry to the Defense Ministry.
18 August 1999
Russia officially apologizes for accidentally dropping bombs on Georgia, Tbilisi accepts the apology without reservation, hails "new neighborly relations" with Moscow
Sirazhdin Ramazanov appointed Prime Minister of the Islamic State of Dagestan by rebels fighting in the republic
Russian command in north Caucasus says up to 15,000 troops are expected to deploy in Dagestan - five airborne batallions, special unit, Interior Ministry troops, riot police, all backed by Dagestani police and armed volunteers
Russian aircraft strike TV and radio broadcast facilities in Karamakhi and Chabanmakhi, villages controlled by Dagestani Islamic militants
19 August 1999
Russian Defense Minister Igor Sergeyev and Interior Minister Vladimir Rushailo visiting Dagestan, Sergeyev promises that militants will be eliminated "within a very short period."
Russian troops rebuffed in an attempt to storm Tando, a village occupied by fighters from Chechnya. Eight servicemen are reported killed, the figure is later revised downward to four.
Shamil Basayev puts his troops on alert for second stage of operations believed to target Khasavyurt in the north of Dagestan
20 August 1999
Russian artillery pounding rebel strongholds in the Botlikh region, Russian Deputy Interior Minister Zubov admits use of artillery and air strikes is not effective enough but rules out direct assault for fear of losses
21 August 1999
Yeltsin spokesman quotes the president as saying that it was impossible to expect "quick solution" to the conflict in Dagestan
23 August 1999
Russian Federation Council Chairman Yegor Stoev said the planned meeting between presidents of Russia and Chechnya is "absurd and useless."
24 August 1999
Chechen rebels announce withdrawal from the Botlikh region, first stage of the war ends. Rebels add they are switching to a new stage of operation using guerilla and "military-political" tactics. The village of Tando, long occupied by the Chechens, is reported to be completely destroyed by Russian bombardment.
Moscow bars radio and television networks from carrying interviews with Chechen and Dagestani leaders
25 August 1999
Russian troops occupy villages abandoned by retreating fighters around Shamil Basayev, Russian and Dagestani units clearing the area of mines and snipers, Russian tank destroyed by a mine
Chechnya complains that Russia staged two air raids against Chechen targets, warns that Moscow may be starting a new war against the breakaway republic; women and children are reported to leaving areas hit by Russian aircraft
Russian Defense Ministry spokesmen in Dagestan confirms air raids against Chechnya, Russian Defense Minister Sergeyev in Moscow denies Chechnya was attacked
27 August 1999
Russian parliament approves $4.1 million in emergency reconstruction for Dagestan and $500 thousand for assistance for displaced persons, estimated at over 10,000
29 August 1999
Russian forces open second stage of conflict by attacking strongholds of Islamic fundamentalists in Karamakhi and Chabanmakhi villages after their population refuses calls to disarm.
Chechen President Aslan Maskhadov dismisses Movladi Udugov from Chechnya's National Security Council, accuses him of "large-scale ideological sabotage against the Chechen state." Udugov has been serving as a spokesman for Shamil Basayev.
31 August 1999
First in a series of bomb explosions in Moscow kills a woman in a shopping mall
Shamil Basayev categorically denies receiving money from Osama Bin Laden, Russian Defense Ministry reports concentration of gunmen in Chechnya on the border with Dagestan, near the Novolakskoye region
1 September 1999
Shamil Basayev vows to continue "holy war" against Russian forces
3 September 1999
Vice President of Chechnya, Vakha Arsanov, says that Russian actions in Dagestan and Chechnya "violate all international norms," states that Chechnya wishes peaceful settlement of all conflicts in north Caucasus
Russia claims to have seize the last bastion of Islamic militants in Dagestan but fighting around Chabanmakhi continues
4 September 1999
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin declares federal forces have prevailed in Dagestan, Russian representatives meet with Islamic rebels, demand complete capitulation and disarmament
Chechen President Aslan Maskhadov calls for international recognition for Chechnya, says Russia supports criminal gangs on Chechen territory
Bomb levels military barracks in the Dagestan city of Buynaksk, 64 killed
5 September 1999
Militants from Chechnya invade Dagestan again; third - "Novolakskoye" - stage of the conflict begins, over 1,000 rebels penetrate deep into Dagestan, some 70 km from Buynaksk where Russian troops pound secessionist Islamic villages
Russian forces bomb suspected rebel bases in Chechnya
6 September 1999
Russia sends an estimated 1,500 troops to the Novolakskoye region to stop the invasion from Chechnya
Dagestan authorities say 25,000 people have volunteered to fight against the invaders from Chechnya
Russia blames Osama Bin-Laden for aiding the Chechen militants, officials claim he visited Chechnya shortly before the rebels invaded Dagestan
7 September 1999
Russian aircraft bombed villages in Chechnya near the Dagestan border, spokesman for Chechen President Maskhadov denies militants in Dagestan have links with Chechnya; Russian TV airs footage of alleged Chechen atrocities
At least 14 Russian servicemen killed in a shootout over a police station in Novolakskoye, Russian Deputy Interior Minister Pyotr Latishev acknowledged that rebels faced no resistance in crossing to border; "there is no border line between Dagestan and Chechnya, no front line or system of border control," he said.
President Yeltsin condemns his military for "sloppiness" in its campaign in Dagestan, says that recent failures can only be explained through "carelessness of the military."
8 September 1999
Russian forces stop the advance of rebels from Chechnya only 5 km from Khasavyurt, a major regional center; Russian commander warns that Chechen-Akkin population of Khasavyurt supports the rebels
Intensive aerial and artillery bombardment of Karamakhi and Chabanmakhi
9 September 1999
National Security Committee of Chechnya meets to discuss the "military aggression against Chechnya"
RF helicopter, ground attacks continue in Novolakskoye region, federal forces report 10 dead and 16 injured
Russia losses a Su-25 fighter, pilot rescued - first loss of a fighter aircraft
Dagestani premier criticizes Russia for ignoring warning signs of invasion from Chechnya
Russia promises the strengthen aviation forces in Dagestan, send more Su-25, Su-24 jets
Russia reports 149 dead and 522 injured troops since fighting began on August 2 2 dead in a shootout between Dagestani police and a group of Akin-Chechens, driving to a local prison to liberate 11 Chechens arrested on suspicion of terrorism
Chechnya reports artillery and rocket attacks against three settlements in Chechnya
2 Interior Ministry troops killed in Karamakhi shootout
Shamil Basayev dismisses reports of militants planning to attack Khasavyurt as "provocative," claims that guerrillas' plan is to help the population of fundamentalist villages under assault by Russian federal forces
second bomb explosion in Moscow kills 94, Khattab declares: "From now on, they will get our bombs everywhere. Let Russia await our explosions blasting through their cities."
10 September 1999
fighting in Karamakhi and Chabanmakhi regions
fighting also near the Chechen border - Novolakskoye region
11 September 1999
Russian troops advancing on Karamakhi
Russian forces also take Gamiyakh village, previously occupied by Basayev's forces
Chechnya claims Russian bombs hit Chechen villages; Russia admits operation on Dagestan-Chechen border, says bombs may have missed targest
12 September 1999
Shamil Basayev announces he is pulling his fighters back from Dagestan, denies link between Chechens and the bombings in Moscow
13 September 1999
Russian Mi-8 helicopter shot down in Novolakskoye region, all aboard killed while parachuting to the ground
Russia bombed villages in Chechnya, claiming to target militants' bases in the breakaway republic. Chechen President Aslan Maskhadov calls the act "aggression against Ichkeria [Chechnya]" and vows to ready his country for defense.
The third bomb in 10 days destroys a Moscow apartment building, killing at least 118; Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin blames Chechen militants
14 September 1999
Chechen militants announce withdrawal from Dagestan completed
Interfax quotes Russian military sources announcing that the Novolakskoye region has been cleared of militants, mopping up operations continuing
Karamakhi and Chabanmakhi villages abandoned by militants who fled to either Chechnya or the mountains; large-scale Russian operations against Dagestani Islamic radicals end although sporadic fighting continues
Khattab retracts earlier claims on Moscow bombings, says "we would not like to be akin to those who kill sleeping civilians with bombs and shells."
15 September 1999
Russian Prime Minister Putin blames Chechnya for harboring and supporting the terrorists responsible for the recent bombings in Russia, a security sweep throughout the capital of Moscow named "Operation Whirlwind" uncovers over 1.5 tons of explosives brought into the city hidden in sugar sacks and detains 27 suspects
16 September 1999
Another bombing in the Southern Russian city of Volgodonsk kills 17 and injures 115; the bomb exploded between a local police station and an apartment building
Russian Interior Ministry spokesman Mikhail Arkhipov said 500 to 1,500 insurgents have massed at the border between Chechnya and Dagestan
The Dagestani parliament passes a law banning the Islamic fundamentalist Wahhabi movement
15,000 people gather in the Chechen capital Grozny to protest Russian military actions in Chechnya
17 September 1999
Russia's upper house of parliament begins an extraordinary session to discuss and steps to ensure security after a series of bomb blasts in Moscow and other cities.
Speaker of the Dagestan parliament says volunteer defense units will not be disarmed as long as the threat of invasion from Chechnya persists.

The source

I DO NOT CARE FOR CHECHEN SO MUCH AS FOR THE DEFEAT OF THE RUSSIAN ENEMY.RUSSIAN NEVER OFFERED ANYTHING TO CIVILIZATION

The chronology of lies will be complete after the TRUTH comes out sparkling clear about the Russian Army annihilation in the Caucasus meat grinder.

All missiles in Russia cannot break the will of the gallant fighters of islam.

Kissie

You and other jewish fundamentalists may kiss Russian butt all you want, but the bottom line is that your beloved Russian friends are bankrupt, their economy in shambles. Their politics of terrorism is only a short term move that will create immense dissent in the Caucaus regions. Russia ONLY survives because of handouts. You will see in your lifetime the capitulation of Russia to the Caucus regions.

The chronology of lies will be complete after the TRUTH comes out sparkling clear about the Russian Army annihilation in the Caucasus meat grinder.
All missiles in Russia cannot break the will of the gallant fighters of islam.
Tell it to the DoD.

Roger Mattheson, whatever You blah.
P.S. Breath deeper.

Dear everybody,

Well, first of all, I'd like to say something about all that "Russia is bankrupt" stuff. Do you believe Yahoo? According to it, Russia has the world's 9th largest global domestic product(GDP). This is not much, but enough to finance this war.

Link supplied: http://travel.yahoo.com/Destinations/Europe//Countries/Russia/facts.html

And, there are also some questions I would like to ask you all:

A. Russia had a peace treaty with Chechnya. Chechnya attacked Russia. What should Russia do to prevent such attacks in future?

B. What would have happened if the SU had stopped its army at the borders in 1944 (at the borders of Soviet Union, when the Germans were removed from its territory) and signed an honor peace treaty with Germany?

C. How does the question B relate to question A?

Sincerely,
Denis A.Vassiltchev

P.S. I'm Russian (by citizenship and by place of residence)

P.P.S. Oh, year, Mr Mattheson, I also don't like the fact that some Russians are leaving Russia for your barbaric country. I really, really pity them. O'k, they will remain civilized (most of them), but, unfortunately, their children will probably degrade to the level of average Americans. And there is no greater pain for the parent as to see your child being dumb and brainwashed.

JOHN RAMBO
What did you offered to civilization? Hamburgers?
You are retarded, shouldn’t you be sitting on your fat ass and looking through your weekly savings magazine for cheapest hamburgers? You have no opinion you have nothing useful to say, you are stupid you are fat and on top of it you are American. Go away loser.

Thursday, December 2 12:14 AM SGT

Hundreds of Russians killed in latest battles: Grozny
GROZNY, Russia, Dec 1 (AFP) -
Hundreds of Russian soldiers have been killed in battles between federal troops and Chechen fighters, military officials in the rebel capital said on Wednesday.

Invading federal troops lost 70 armoured vehicles in intense clashes around the town of Argun, eight kilometres (five miles) east of Grozny and Alkhan-Yurt, the same distance southwest of the capital, said Chechen General Aslambek Arsayev.

Chechen casualties were light, the general said. It was not possible to independently verify the report although Russian officials confirm fighting is currently raging in the Argun area.

Chechen guerrillas are in the fifth day of a counter-attack focused on districts east of Grozny, a thrust Russian troops have struggled to counter.

According to Chechen military sources, the towns of Noibyora and Novogroznensky seized in recent days remain in rebel hands, despite Russian claims to have retaken the latter.

Meanwhile, Chechen special forces have surrounded former Grozny mayor Bislan Gantamirov, who returned to his homeland to lead a pro-Moscow force of Chechens against the separatist authorities.

Gantamirov, tapped to become the head of a pro-Moscow Chechen administration, is currently encircled in the village of Gekhi, around 20 kilometres (12 miles) southwest of Grozny, said Aslambek Ismailov, a military aide to Chechen President Aslan Maskhadov.
Thursday, December 2 12:14 AM SGT

Hundreds of Russians killed in latest battles: Grozny
GROZNY, Russia, Dec 1 (AFP) -
Hundreds of Russian soldiers have been killed in battles between federal troops and Chechen fighters, military officials in the rebel capital said on Wednesday.

Invading federal troops lost 70 armoured vehicles in intense clashes around the town of Argun, eight kilometres (five miles) east of Grozny and Alkhan-Yurt, the same distance southwest of the capital, said Chechen General Aslambek Arsayev.

Chechen casualties were light, the general said. It was not possible to independently verify the report although Russian officials confirm fighting is currently raging in the Argun area.

Chechen guerrillas are in the fifth day of a counter-attack focused on districts east of Grozny, a thrust Russian troops have struggled to counter.

According to Chechen military sources, the towns of Noibyora and Novogroznensky seized in recent days remain in rebel hands, despite Russian claims to have retaken the latter.

Meanwhile, Chechen special forces have surrounded former Grozny mayor Bislan Gantamirov, who returned to his homeland to lead a pro-Moscow force of Chechens against the separatist authorities.

Gantamirov, tapped to become the head of a pro-Moscow Chechen administration, is currently encircled in the village of Gekhi, around 20 kilometres (12 miles) southwest of Grozny, said Aslambek Ismailov, a military aide to Chechen President Aslan Maskhadov.

Shalom to all good jews

The fighters of judaism will crush all that dare oppose us. We are the chosen people. All non jews are merely wild beasts ready to slaughter. And you shall be slaughtered or be our slaves.

Down with muslims
Down with christians
Down with Russians
Down with Palestinians

To all filthy pork eating Russians now emigrating in droves to the great land of Israel. The leader of the Shas party has spoken. you will reform your unclean ways or YOU WILL NOT BE WELCOME. We will send you back to your poor Russian nation,so heed this warning or suffer the conseqences.