Igor

I've been treating you with kid's gloves. I could have brought up the massacre of Polish resistance by the Russians during the WW2 or Stalin's doctors plot or a myriad of other Russian conspiracies. But I believe that we should not dwell on the negative, but should talk constructively. If you feel that you are not capable of that then by all means lets have a debate. You might not like the outcome though.

The Oily Tracks Running Through Kosovo
Michael Savage
November 30, 1999



Kosovo was about oil and nothing but oil, with maybe some uranium thrown in and a dash of "wag-the-dog." And you thought it was to save the poor Kosovar Albanians.

Of all the ethnically "cleansed" peoples around the world, some numbering in the millions, the beneficent powers of NATO decided to draw the line with the Kosovar Albanians. About 2,000 of the ethnic Albanians had been reportedly killed by Serbs in the last several years, so it was time for the humanitarian guard to take action.

No matter that about as many Serbs had been killed by the Albanians, and that Kosovo is a part of the sovereign state of Yugoslavia, and that this conflict had been ongoing for centuries. Big Oil required a pipeline through Kosovo and the poor Serbs just happened to own the wrong real estate at the wrong time.

How do I know that the Kosovo action was about oil or, to be exact, about establishing a safe haven for an oil pipeline? Just recently Bill Clinton signed an historic agreement with Azerbaijan on this very matter. Azerbaijan is one of the former Soviet republics that became a separate country with the breakup of the USSR. Formerly, Caspian oil would have come into the world market as a Soviet export but not anymore. It now comes under the flag of this newly independent nation via Turkey where it is transshipped by way of Turkish seaports. And Russia has been deftly unlinked from the world oil market.

Now, keen interest in Azerbaijani oil is nothing new. The Germans have had a compelling interest in this oil going back to 1905 and extending through the two world wars up to and including the present. One of Hitler’s primary goals in his push to the east was to capture the Azerbaijani oil fields. But where the Kaiser and Nazi Germany failed, it seems the New World Order — featuring Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, and other socialists — is going to succeed. The plan is now to route the oil in a way that will fulfill Germany’s long-sought-after objective.

Here is how the oil is going to run. It starts from the oil fields of Baku, Azerbaijan’s capital on the Caspian Sea. It is piped from there across Azerbaijan and Georgia through Turkey. But the plan of Clinton, and the rest of the present-day Neue Ordnung, is now to have it piped from Turkey directly through Bulgaria. In this way it can reach the Danube and the Adriatic Sea — the Danube being a direct route to Germany and the Adriatic bringing it much closer to Western Europe. And Russia is expected to look on, while it’s being aced out of this highly lucrative action.

But before reaching the Danube and the Adriatic, as you’ve probably guessed, the pipeline must first go from Bulgaria through Yugoslavia and Kosovo! Slobodan Milosevich, however, has had other plans for oil shipment through his country that are more to his liking (and Russia’s) and was unwilling to cooperate with this scenario. The NATO socialists were attacking Russia, by proxy, in stealing Kosovo from Serbia.

Now it begins to make sense, doesn’t it? The reason becomes clear why, of all the ethnic and religious oppression in the world, NATO chose this area tucked away in the Balkans for its ground-leveling "humanitarian" aid. And why the One World media places Slobodan Milosevich, a small-time local tyrant, alongside Hitler and Stalin.

During the shameful and cowardly NATO bombing of the historic bridges across the Danube River, the mouthpieces of the Government-Media complex ceaselessly propagandized. Jamie Shea, the English soccer thug; James Rubin, Mad Half-Bright’s Stooge; Solana, the Spanish socialist; an unnamed Luftwaffe general; and others continued the Big Lie. They were bombing Serbian civilians (hospitals, schools, trains, powerplants, apartments, orphanages) to save Albanians!

They were also destroying Kosovo to save it. These international war criminals were led by General Wesley Clark (a Rhodes Scholar from Arkansaw) who clicked his shiny heels for the commander-in-grief, Bill Clinton (another Rhodes Scholar from Arkansaw).

But the greatest shame must fall upon the tendentious media hacks. ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, Fox, and most columnists of the neo-right all fell in line: "The criminal bombing was just. It was to save the innocent ‘ethnic’ Albanians from the evil [non-ethnic] Serbs." Have you now heard one of these hacks apologize or admit they were duped? Used by Big Oil to apologize for, no, to justify, NATO war crimes?

Even their "reportage" on the recent demonstrations of more than 25,000 Greek citizens was biased. Both by under-reporting the number ("hundreds," blared the San Francisco Examiner) and by ascribing the legitimate protests against Clinton’s war crimes to "communists" and anti-American sentiment going back to the 1970s!

With the NATO presence in Kosovo, the way is now clear for the pipeline — and for the ethnic Albanians to ethnically cleanse the province of the remaining, helpless Kosovar Serbs, Gypsies, and Jews. To make the world safe for Big Oil’s trans-Kosovo pipeline.

Does the truth have to hit you over your head. What part would you dispute?

Igor,

It must be difficult to live in a country you despise so much, after all, Canada is in the West and part of NATO.

I see George Silver also disagreed with you, as did I, that you had to go and post exerpts of your link.

Is there a point?

I only despise U.S foreign policy.It is self serving and exploitative.ie Central American banana Republics It's all about lobby groups and big business.

I guess the Russians threw a wrech into master plan .Army is running the show.

Bear and the dragon


Russian President Boris Yeltsin’s visit to China and his outbursts against the US are both of considerable political significance. The visit’s significance lies in the fact that it has taken place despite Mr Yeltsin’s indifferent health and speculation about his grip on power. While it has served to reaffirm the importance of Sino-Russian ties, a noteworthy convergence of views among Russia, China and India on a variety of global issues is also bound to strengthen the perception in certain quarters about the three countries quietly working for establishing a “strategic triangle”.

The global change in recent years has created an anomalous situation for Russia. Humiliated by its loss of the cold war, near collapse of its economy and territorial dismemberment, Russia has been under tremendous American pressure to forego any claim to superpower status. Russia sees in the NATO’s expansion and in Washington’s interventionist role in world affairs a design to impose what one analyst calls “mindless hegemony”.

Mr Yeltsin’s outbursts against the US President, particularly the choice of words like Mr Clinton having “forgotten for a moment in which world he is living” and “we have a full arsenal of nuclear weapons” is meant to hurt as also to remind Moscow’s one-time rival of its nuclear prowess. Russia has recently come under sharp attack from President Clinton and other Western leaders for its handling of the Chechnya crisis, which is not dissimilar to what India faces in Kashmir. Such is the emerging global order that if the US seeks to punish terrorists in Afghanistan and Sudan through missile attacks or keeps pounding Iraq, the step is justified but if Russia, China or India have to deal with internationally-sponsored terrorism with a heavy hand, the West’s heart begins to bleed. The strategic triangle may not materialise, but the three countries evidently share a common concern about the global dominance of the US. U.S watch out

America's Push on the Caspian Pipeline is Not Good Sense for the Oil Companies


By JONATHAN POWER


Dec 2, 1999


LONDON- Rarely, if at all in the post Cold War world, has there been such a stark case of high politics and doubtful economics. The oil company's director of international affairs has been openly blunt about it: "The only way this is going to work is to make the pipeline as affordable as possible for shippers to put their oil down it. We are asking the U.S. government to attract as much oil as possible and to attract as much financing as possible".

Thus BP Amoco, the world's third largest oil company, opens its begging bowl for a taxpayers' handout with the fulsome backing of the U.S. government. All in the cause of giving Russia, now supposedly no longer our enemy, a black eye. Left to itself and the dictates of the competitive market, BP Amoco would not build a new pipeline to carry Caspian Sea oil across Turkey, avoiding the old routes through Russia. But if the U.S. government makes it worth its while, well that is another story.

Not for nothing have the oil companies signed up high paid consultants the likes of former U.S. Secretaries of State Al Haig and James Baker and former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski. Insecure when it comes to political decisions whose stakes are this high the oil companies have bought the best advice money can buy. The truth is they've bought re-cycled Cold War warriors whose primary loyalty is not to their current paymasters but to their long-held convictions that the U.S. should first win the Cold War and then make sure that Russia can never again mount a credible challenge to the West. To integrate Russia with the West would be a mistake, they believe. Rather Russia should be reduced in power and then isolated. This is the Treaty of Versailles by another name and another method. Not reparations. Instead, no opportunities. And political encirclement - an expanded Nato on its western flank and a line of pro-western oil-rich client states- Azerbaijan, Georgia, Turkmenistan and Kazahstan - on its southern Asian flank. And, of course, if possible, a Western orientated China on its east.

At the moment oil from the Caspian Sea goes from Azerbaijan across Georgia to Russia or up through Chechnya. The Russians, naturally, would want to see these routes, which are both the cheapest and the most direct, used to capacity. And, if they become overused, build an additional pipeline for oil and gas underwater to Turkey's Black Sea Coast.

The oil companies themselves have pushed for a new pipeline south via Iran with an outlet on the Persian Gulf. But the U.S., despite some tentative moves towards rapprochement with Iran, is not yet in the mood to consider ending its long standing embargo. It remains convinced that Iran is still intent on manufacturing nuclear weapons and targeting them on Israel.

The deal long in the making for the new Caspian pipeline across Georgia and then Turkey was announced two weeks ago by President Bill Clinton in Istanbul and immediately denounced in Moscow as one more piece of evidence that, although Washington talks a lot of peace, its clear long term purpose is hard real politik, a fundamental change in the whole strategic relationship between Russia and the West.

For now the Yeltsin Administration has its own reasons for keeping the Russian reaction in check. Yeltsin himself started the ball rolling by working to dismember the Soviet Union as part of his own bid to displace from power Mikhail Gorbachev - he needed to make his own position as the elected Russian premier the one that counted. But once Yeltsin ends his term of office next year a new man in the Kremlin - likely on the present line up to be more of a nationalist - will draw on the widespread anti-American antipathy that exists not just among those that follow such matters, but among a general populace that was startled by the expansion of Nato and is distinctly uneasy about America's wish to re-write the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty. The oil pipeline confirms the worst suspicions of the Russian man and woman in the street who feel more by the day that America is trying to do their country down.

Clinton Administration apologists have their arguments. Mr Clinton himself has described the pipeline as "an insurance policy for the entire world because it would route energy supplies through multiple routes and not a single choke point".

The language of choke points dates back to Cold War days and the greatly overdrawn fears that the Soviet armies would march across Afghanistan and Pakistan and head down to the Persian Gulf and close it off for exiting oil tankers by seizing control of the Strait of Hormuz. Wildly exaggerated as a scenario then, it received its coup de grace when, as a consequence of the Gulf War, Iraq was stopped from shipping its oil out and the West, somewhat to its surprise, found it could live without it. Besides, the last thing Russia wants to do is to hoard its hard-currency-earning oil.

Another senior administration official told the New York Times last week that the Russians "clearly see this as threatening. They see this as the next phase of U.S.-Russian competition. They don't seem to understand that they would be better off with a stable southern flank".

"Stable southern flank?" Is that how Washington would look at it if the Russians were engaged in a similar endeavour in Mexico and Guatemala? There can be no stable southern flank if there is East/West competition. We already have had a poisonous taste of that with the helping hand from Washington that put the Taliban power in Afghanistan in an effort to keep pro Russian elements at bay. A few years later the Taliban are succouring extreme Islamic militants far and wide including the notorious Osama bin Laden. And, earlier this year, the chief foreign affairs advisor to the president of Azerbaijan was reported as saying that Azerbaijan wants a U.S. military base there, a viewpoint that Washington has not sought to firmly rebuff. How "stable" can such provocation be?

BP Amoco has said that it won't make a final decision on going ahead with the new pipeline until next October when it will be clear just how much financing the U.S. has been able to raise. The oil companies should use the time to start thinking for themselves. The British, American and Norwegian companies involved already have contracts to prospect for and extract the oil and gas. The free market has already made them winners whichever route is decided for. Isn't that enough? Do they really need government aid to prosper? Do they really want to end up as the lackeys of new-born Cold War warriors in Washington? If they pause to ponder these questions they might be pleasantly surprised what answers they get.



Copyright © 1999 By JONATHAN POWER

That will keep you busy for a while if you care to read

Mr SILVER and BONES You in the states have your opinion,however people in Canada are not that naieve. There are too many facts for it not to be true.

To: Dr. Silber
Kid's gloves, Mr. Silber? Let's put on the boxing gloves: hurts, but not all the way. How about this: (you're Canadian, not American, but it's a general Western example)
* The Mai Lai,
* That Newly Discovered Korean Refugee Murder Trumped on US TV
* Slaughter of thousands of American Indians by US Cavalry and such (I know, way before now, but then, crimes against humanity know no statute of limitations, correct?)
For every, EVERY example of serbian/russian etc. "so-called/alleged" atrocities you name, one can name AT LEAST one example of the same by the West,Muslims&Co. Care to explore?
O yeah, when have you heard last of a plane hijacked by a Slav? How about that Indian one, newlyweds, for chrissake! Where is the loud voice of condemnation of muslim fundametalist terrorism?
Just answer me, if you would, would you wanna be on that plane in the name of some godforsaken Kashmir liberation?

Igor

"I only despise U.S foreign policy.It is self serving and exploitative.ie Central American banana Republics It's all about lobby groups and big business."

You say "Self serving?" I think you just defined every government in the world including the Vatican AND the Russian Federation.

If you read it correctly, your beef is with the oil companies dude.

Well well Igor, now it all makes perfect sense. Pipe the oil to Turkey that has access to the Mediterranean sea then ship it North to Bulgaria so you could ship it back South to the Mediterranean. Brilliant business strategy, I mean why pay less for shipping when you could pay more. Hey Igor I have another brilliant idea, why not pipe the oil from Siberia to Thailand and then use oil tankers to bring it back to Kamatchatka.

Let me propose a little oil theory of my own. You all know who Boris Berezovsky is. And probably most of you know what GasProm is. You see if Caspian oil fields get developed poor Berezovsky might have additional competition. And of course being a member of the family, Boris can run and ask daddy Boris to save him. Well the daddy Boris will have none of that, one sip of Stolichnaya and off daddy goes to fight for Boris's billions. O yeah did I forget to mention that Russia is an oil exporting nation (damn that capitalist competition). In any case daddy Boris now has a bone to pick with the west. Leave my poor impoverished Berezovsky alone screams daddy. You damn Yankees want to control the oil! O yeah did I forget to mention that Russia is an oil exporting nation. But much to daddy's surprise the people in the west are continuing making plans to buy oil from the Caspian area. So daddy takes another sip of Stolichnaya and waves couple of nukes around. That will get their attention he thinks. Well Igor we'll see about that. O yeah before you start floating more oil conspiracy theories around here just remember that Russia is an oil exporting nation.

And you just remember Russia has nukes too and will not be pushed around. Putin is not Yeltsin.Mark my words, speak to you another time obviously you only see from American prospective.

To Alex Smirnitski

Poland
Czechoslovakia
Hungary
O what the hell entire Eastern Europe
Gulags
Stalin's concentration camps
Forced collective farming
KGB
ETC…