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 wolf
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Just Look At What They Have Done To Us
Grozny, Chechnya
Jan, 16, 1995

The torched hulks of five Russian tanks lie like discarded trash 325 yds. from the parliament building in the ravaged center of Grozny. The blackened corpse of a Russian soldier, looking like a mummified doll, hangs from the hatch of a tank. Chechen militiamen hiding around the corner are indifferent to the Russian's fate. "We clear away the corpses of our fallen comrades," says Ilyas Salatayev. "But we can't clear away all the Russian corpses." There are plenty more around: eight bodies sprawl in front of the presidential palace, and dead men in Russian khaki litter nearby streets. "We offered them the chance to stop fighting so they could take away their dead," says Salatayev. "They turned our offer down."

These Chechen fighters are volunteers, grouped in informal bands of 20 to 50, who elect their own commanders but answer to the government of President Dzhokhar Dudayev. Salatayev, 33, is a tractor driver from a village in the hills south of Grozny. When he heard that the Russian army had launched a New Year's Eve assault on the capital, he kissed his wife and three children goodbye and rushed to defend the city. Fellow fighter Khmzat Sochoyev, 36, is a community-center director from another rural hamlet. A third member of their band, Ibrahim Zakhayev, 25, looks out of place among these robust villagers, with his thick glasses and scholarly air. But the geography student from Chechen State University now sports camouflage fatigues and cradles his Kalashnikov rifle as if it is his most precious possession. What brings a learned fellow like him into the ranks of these warriors? "Can't you see?" says Zakhayev, with a disbelieving look in his sad, dark eyes. "Just look around at what they have done to us."

The broad central avenue is strewn with glass blasted from bent and twisted windows. Modern high-rises that once housed local dignitaries are scorched, burned-out shells. There is no electricity, no heat, no water, no trams, no medical care, no police, no fire trucks - none of the lifelines that keep a 20th century city alive. The fog is pierced by the hellish light of fires, many ignited when bombs hit gas mains.

But nobody pays any heed. People are too busy fighting or hiding in any shelter they can find. Just to get water, residents must wait until the shooting diminishes, then race to the shores of the Sunzha River flowing through the city center, punch holes in the ice and haul up buckets. Says Zakhayev: "It's not just a figure of speech when we say we will fight to the last man."

Anvar joins the conversation. The slim man in his 30s grips a brand-new sharpshooter's rifle. He is a Chechen whose family emigrated to Jordan in 1902, but he always considered Chechnya his homeland. Eight months ago, he came to Grozny to start what he hoped would be a lucrative tourist business. "Maybe I am one of those foreign mercenaries the Russian President keeps talking about," says Anvar with a sardonic smile.

The fighters under the command of businessman Serbi Aliyev, who left his home in Ukraine and used his personal funds to equip a band of 50 men, seem remarkably well armed. Daud Tsuroyev silently displays a small, short-barreled machine pistol. "This is what one of our boys developed about a year ago," he says proudly. "It's called a Borz ((wolf)) - after our national emblem. It fires 25 rounds and never jams. Dzhokhar Dudayev approved it and has the first Borz ever made."

"We also have a brilliant fellow here who started making grenade launchers," adds Aliyev. "Dzhokhar Dudayev piled up enough materiel because he long expected this Russian aggression. And we get a lot of weapons when we disarm Yeltsin's criminal formations." That is a mocking jab at the Moscow propaganda claim that government troops are in the region to "disarm criminal groups."

"I believe Yeltsin is a bandit," says Aliyev as he steps into the kitchen of the Mona Lisa Restaurant, once a hangout for visiting ethnic Chechens who had grown wealthy in emigre Meccas like Jordan and Iraq and returned for a taste of home. "But we have no quarrel with the Russian people. We want to live in peace with them." He smiles at a charming young Russian girl who is cooking a meal for the Chechen fighters. "How is Nikolai?" he asks. "Is he up to talking to journalists?"

A skinny lad of 19 enters the kitchen. He is dressed in a dirty Russian field uniform, his head is wrapped in bandages, and he shakes from shell shock. His name is Nikolai Sergeyev. He was drafted into the Russian army from a village in the Volgograd region a year ago. "We took him prisoner on Jan. 1," says Aliyev. "In fact, I saved him from a mob that wanted to lynch him. We are not fighting these kids. We kill only special-forces soldiers, because they are killers themselves. We shoot them on the spot. Nikolai is a different case. We will send him out of here as soon as it is safe."

The weary young soldier tells the story of how he wound up at the Mona Lisa. "I was serving in Maikop ((the capital of Adygheya, another autonomous republic in the foothills of the Greater Caucasus))," he says. "I was a private with military unit 09332, a motorized rifle group. I was a light-tank gunner. They sent our unit to camp in an open field. We later learned it was Pervomaiskaya ((a suburb of Grozny)). We had to sleep in our tanks. Our commanders told us we would not fight in Grozny. Then, on Dec. 31, they ordered us into our light tanks, and we set off. We did not know where we were going, but the next morning we found ourselves by the railway station in Grozny."

Sergeyev shakes as he recalls what happened. "All hell broke loose," he says. "There were 260 of us there. Our commander was killed right away. We lost a lot of officers. We did not know what to do. Our armor was burning. We gathered some wounded and tried to take them out, but the tank transporting them was destroyed too. I escaped and tried to hide in the basement of a bakery, but the wall collapsed. I tried to dig myself out." Sergeyev's hands are so badly bruised that he cannot write a letter to his family. "I don't know how many Russian soldiers died in that slaughter," he says softly. "I only know that we lost a lot of people." Other Chechens later say that 30 of Sergeyev's comrades are still holed up in two apartment buildings by the railway station.

A mile away from the Mona Lisa, a Russian woman, Raisa Serzhankova, 64, who has long lived in Chechnya, cannot hold back her tears as she looks at the ruins of her neighbor's house, set afire by Russian bombs on Tuesday night. "I live in this street," she says. "Last night, when the bombs were falling, I was composing a letter to Yeltsin, even though I know he'll never read it. I wanted to tell him that we don't have anything to eat, that our homes are cold, that water from broken pipes freezes on my floor. I wanted to tell him that he had no business sending his army here, that his army is killing us, Russians." As Russian shells begin to fall closer, another old woman comes up to Serzhankova. "Let's go, Raisa," she says. "Let's go to the basement."

Many of Yeltsin's soldiers share Serzhankova's anger. "Four men in our unit refused to come here," says a Russian officer named Valeri who commands a roadblock 20 miles west of Grozny. "Some of us have decided that if we are ordered to fight, we will lay down our arms and let them do to us what they will." He looks over at a tank where his soldiers are drinking tea to warm themselves and does not flinch when a sniper bullet whizzes by. "When I fought in Afghanistan," he says, "I believed that I was defending my country. What am I supposed to believe now? What are those bastards in Moscow thinking about anyway?"


   
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 luna
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Finally some European leaders realise that the Russian war against terrorism is in fact an act of genocide towards the chechen population, in the first instance against innocent women and children. I don't think there is a will to do anything about it, the only people who could really make a difference are the russian people themselves. But the biased russian media and propaganda - somehow saying that all chechens are terrorists or would be terrorists (even a 3 year old boy or a chechen lady refusing to serve vodka to drunken russian "soldiers") - has been so successful that the russian people appear to believe virtually everything they are being told. Return to the dark old KGB days. There is also no end in sight. We will celebrate the birth of the year 2000 with another ongoing genocide. We had enough of it during this century alone - why more? I am still hoping for some peace initiative, however remote this may be at the present time.


   
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 leo
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To RUSSIAN

LEO.
DID YOU HEAR ME? GET THE FUCCCK OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR BS ABOUT MUSLIMS.

You are all pincha putu or hotho( gays and fagots) have aids and shamil do not have to spend bullets on you animals. your sisters are now in dubai, go check it out, will come with aids. I will not send any more donation this times.


   
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To luna

I am still hoping for some peace initiative, however remote this may be at the present time.

Do not worry sister, muslims will bring green peace all over the world.. The christians ans jews and commies they failed for 2000 years.

Peace come form GOD only and God is the source of Peace.


MOhammad


   
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 luna
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The trash presented on this site at the moment is just too much. I am signing off.


   
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(@mohammad)
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Muslims believe in the chain of Prophets (starting from Adam, Noah, Lot, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Elias, Jonah, Jesus, and finally ending on the Prophet Mohammed) peace be upon them all.

Quran has a whole chapter on Mary (PBUH), and describes Her as the most pious and respected lady.

Islam accepts without any doubt all the miracles of Prophet Jusus (PBUH).

Quranic teachings revolve around peace not violence.


"We send down in the Qur'ran that which is a healing and mercy for those who believe."
(17:82) The Noble Qur'an


   
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Êîëè÷åñòâî æåðòâ â ðåçóëüòàòå õèìè÷åñêîé àòàêè ðîññèéñêèõ àãðåññîðîâ óâåëè÷èâàåòñÿ      
Êîëè÷åñòâî æåðòâ ñðåäè ìèðíîãî íàñåëåíèÿ ãîðîäà Äæîõàð, â ðåçóëüòàòå õèìè÷åñêîé àòàêè ðîññèéñêèõ àãðåññîðîâ, óâåëè÷èëîñü. Ñåãîäíÿ ñòàëî èçâåñòíî, ÷òî óìåðëî åùå, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå, 15 ÷åëîâåê îò õèìè÷åñêèõ îæîãîâ è îòðàâëåíèé. Áîëåå 40 ÷åëîâåê íàõîäÿòñÿ â òÿæåëåéøåì ñîñòîÿíèè.

Ïî ñîîáùåíèÿì ÷å÷åíñêîãî êîìàíäîâàíèÿ, ðîññèéñêèå àãðåññîðû îáñòðåëèâàþò 36-ó÷àñòîê ÷å÷åíñêîé ñòîëèöû àðòèëëåðèéñêèìè ñíàðÿäàìè ñ õèìè÷åñêîé íà÷èíêîé.


   
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 ÷å÷åíñêóþ ñòîëèöó ïðîäîëæàþò ïðèáûâàòü ìîäæàõåäû       
Íåñìîòðÿ íà áëîêàäó îñíîâíûõ äîðîã âåäóùèõ â ÷å÷åíñêóþ ñòîëèöó, â ãîðîä ïðîäîëæàþò ïðèáûâàòü ïîäðàçäåëåíèÿ ìîäæàõåäîâ.  Äæîõàð ïåðåáðàñûâàþòñÿ äîïîëíèòåëüíûå ïàðòèè âîîðóæåíèÿ è áîåïðèïàñîâ èç ðåçåðâîâ êîìàíäîâàíèÿ Âîîðóæåííûìè ñèëàìè ×ÐÈ. Ìîäæàõåäû îðãàíèçóþò ïåðåïðàâêó ìèðíûõ æèòåëåé èç ãîðîäà â äðóãèå ðàéîíû ×å÷íè.  ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü âíèìàíèå óäåëÿåòñÿ æåíùèíàì, äåòÿì, ñòàðèêàì è áîëüíûì. Ââèäó òîãî, ÷òî ìàðøðóòû ïåðåäâèæåíèÿ ÷å÷åíñêèõ áîéöîâ ïîñòîÿííî ïðîñòðåëèâàþòñÿ, âûâîç ìèðíûõ æèòåëåé êðàéíå îñëîæíåí è îãðàíè÷åí.


   
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(@svoloch)
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leo

I TEBA SYKA RAKOM NAGNY U VIEBY. I ZJE VIZJY SHTI TI EVREI POAGANEI
BEI EVREEV!!!!!!!


   
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(@svoloch)
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PEOPLE THERE WILL BE NO PEACE IN THE CHECNYA!!!!!!
NOT UNTIL WE DESTROY EVERY CHECHEN TERORIST.!!!!!!!!

OPYSTIM VSEX CHECHENCEV!!!!!!!


   
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 locc
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LEO
CERRA LA BOCA PINCHE CABRON.
QUERES CHUPAR MI VERGA? SI NO QUERES HACERLO ES MEJOR QUE CERRES TU PINCHE BOCA. CHINGA LOS MOSELMANOS!!! Y CHINGA TU MADRE TAMBIEN, PUTO.


   
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 leo
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to locc, russian and all pro russian begging bowl


The International Monetary Fund (IMF) delayed instalments of a loan to Russia - but said this was because of Moscow's failure to complete structural reforms.

Sorry your poor begger bowl russia, no money, no food, in this cold winter. Any way your sister can send some from dubi.


   
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(@L'menexe)
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kim a:
i've got it.
come n' get it.


   
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 locc
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LEO
YOU LAME A$$, IF YOU DON'T SPEAK SPANISH, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU DON'T CAUSE YOU'RE JUST ANOTHER CAMELJACK ON THIS BOARD, THEN DON'T TRY TO SHOW OFF WITH YOUR POOR SPANISH VOCABULARY.
I KNOW ONLY ONE WORD ON ARABIC,BUT THAT'S ENOUGH TO SAY: SHARMUT, THATS WHO YOU ARE.


   
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(@curious)
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to leo:

what nationality are you?


   
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