k-san!

2:41pm from you: killer stuff, lololol... like watching a figure skater!


good night

Turk

You are pathetic 🙂 this is the only thing you can respond to? You make 3000 a week? 🙂 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I PAYED YOUR MOM MORE THAN THAT IN ONE NIGHT 🙂

“ Secondly, as far as I can see from your input to this board, you are such a low class bum that not many people would like to be near you, let alone work for you.”

Stupid turk, where did I ask for your opinion? 🙂

So how about Turkish slavery, still going to deny? 🙂 Did you •••••• accepted my invatation? 🙂

To russians
you russians (on this message board) are doing a fantastic job of showing the world
your mentality, education level and level of reasoning. I've been reading your postings
for a week now and i've got a picture of russians as uncivilised and avoid of logical
reasoning. statements made on here in regards to slavery prove that the young people
makeing these statements obviously dont know what their on about. I was in Turkey
last year in Laleli the suburb where there is a lot of russian women working the streets
they have to return every 3 mounths because thier visa's expire. but they return to
turkey,hungary,poland,india,pakistan, east germany,greece and many other countries to
generate a income for thier brothers, fathers and husbands in russia so that they can buy
VODKA. Most of these women are higly educated doctors,engineers,accountants etc so
please show us your source of information in regards to TURKISH SLAVERY.
instead of makeing wild claimes and accusations. For this message board is frequented
by citizens of every nation on earth. when i see the postings on this message board i
see a back ward people. I was hopeing that they wern't as gullible as thier media
portray them. please wake up people are dyeing while you sleep

THATS RIGHT, PEOPLE ARE DYING AS WE SLEEP. RUSSIANS ARE DYING THANKS TO THE PROBLEMS PASSED DOWN BY U.S. WE ARE NOT CIVILIZED? WHO ARE YOU TO MAKE THAT JUDGEMENT. ONE WHO JUDGES IS THE IDIOT WHO DOESNT REALIZE THE FACTS. I THINK YOU YOURSELF ARE A BARBARIAN CANIBAL AND YOUR NATION TOO.

"I am feeling sorry for them, but certainly have no respect for them whatsoever. Why should I respect somebody who has no respect for themselves. Any person respecting themselves will start by being truthful to themselves. These people are so pathetic, they try to twist the facts, bully the people, or just go overboard with profane language."

TURK, HOW CAN YOU HAVE RESPECT FOR YOURSELF WHEN YOU SUFFER THE WAY YOU DO? WHEN YOU GAVE ALL THE TRUTH AND MUSCLE/SWEAT TO MAKE YOUR COUNTRY WHAT IT IS TODAY. THANKS TO CAPITALISM, PEOPLE ARE THIS WAY. HONESTLY. TWIST WHAT FACTS? YOU YOURSELF DONT TWIST FACTS? YOU TELL TRUTH 100% WELL HECK, YOU CAN GO TO HEAVEN FOR NOT LYING. LOL. SINNER FREE. YOU AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER USED PROFANITY AND DONT DENY IT. BECAUSE ILL SEE IT AS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH AND YOUL CONTRYDICT YOURSELF..

AND ITS TYPICAL FOR AMERICAN TO CALL SOMEONE BARBARIAN WHEN HE CANT UNDERSTAND HIM OR HER/ OR PEOPLES.

URN,

You were not among the people I was talking about. I don't agree with everything you say, but I sense a kind of decency in you.

If you would denounce nationalism, and stick with communism only, you would be a much better person. Face it, there will be a lot of people from other nations sharing your way of thinking, than you can find among Russians. So why you should push away those people, while you are trying to stick with those Russians who are back-stabbing you, and are enemy of your dreams.

By CanadianBacon ( - 195.44.0.224) on Saturday, February 12, 2000 - 01:52 pm:

>To Antonio

>When you were a Catholic priest, how many
>choirboys did you molest?

>Thank God there are Protestants in the world!

>Antonio - a dumbass, sexually peverted former
>Catholic Priest, now communicating from prison.


"Whosoever revolts, and continues not in the doctrine of Christ, has not God." (2 St. John 1:9)

"If anyone does not profess properly and truthfully all that has been handed down and taught publicly to the Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church of God, to the last detail in word and intention: let him be anathema." (First Lateran Council)

"If anyone does not with mind and lips reject and anathematize all abominable heretics together with their impious writings, even to the single least portion, let such a person be condemned." (Pope St. Martin I)

"They have gone forth from us, but were not of us. For if they had been of us, they would surely have continued with us. Whosoever does not continue in the doctrine of Christ does not have God."
(1 St. John 2:19; 2 St. John 1:9)

St. Cyprian says: "Whoever withdraws and departs from the Church will be guilty, even though he has attained grace in the Church. That he will perish will be imputed to himself."

"Thou art a God who hatest all the workers of iniquity: Thou wilt destroy all who speak a lie." (Psalm 5:7)

St. Augustine says: "You heretics are all guilty and wicked by the crime of schism. From this most heinous sacrilege not one of you can say he is innocent."

"He who to support heresy distorts the Sacred Scriptures from their genuine and true meaning is guilty of the greatest injury to the Word of God, and against this crime we are warned by the Prince of the
Apostles: 'There are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they also do other Scriptures, to their own destruction.' (2 St. Peter 3:16)" (Catechism of the Council of Trent)

St. Thomas Aquinas says: "The unbelief of heretics, who confess their belief in the Gospel and resist that faith by corrupting it, is a more grievous sin than that of the heathens, because the heathens have not accepted the faith in any way at all. Hence, the unbelief of heretics is the worst sin. Speaking absolutely, the unbelief of heretics is worse than that of pagans or Jews."

St. John Eudes says: "The greatest evil existing today is heresy, an infernal rage which hurls countless souls into eternal damnation."

St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori says: "These unfortunate people do not see that, in refusing to submit to the Church, they reduce themselves to believing in nothing. The so-called Reformers have revived ancient heresies, and have sought by false doctrines to destroy the faith of Jesus Christ, and, if possible, to bring all souls with themselves to eternal perdition."

"Protestantism is the Great Revolt against God." (Venerable Pope Pius IX)

"Heretics are Antichrists and adversaries of Christ." (7th Council of Carthage)

"Heretics are to be classed with thieves and murderers." (Pope Innocent IV)

"Hence, if you fear to leave this Catholic unity outside which there is no salvation, beware of the subtleties of heretics." (Venerable Pope Pius IX)

"Therefore, let the blind and foolish subtlety of heretical impiety be despised. Whosoever continues in heresy is unpardonable, nor can he ever attain forgiveness. They are falling into that blasphemy which shall never be forgiven, neither in this world nor in the Judgement to come." (Pope St. Leo the Great)

"Those who have been detected even by slight proof to have deviated from the doctrine of the Catholic religion out to fall under the classification of heretic and under the sentences operating against heretics. (Pope Innocent IV)

St. Augustine says: "If anyone holds to a single heresy, he is not a Catholic."

St. Edmund Campion says: "What is the use of fighting for many articles of the faith, and to perish for the doubting of a few? He believes no one article of faith who refuses to believe any single one."

"Against the First Commandment, all those sin who do not have faith. Such sinners are very numerous, for they include all who fall into heresy, all who reject what Holy Mother the Church proposes for our belief." (Catechism of the Council of Trent)

"Anyone who says 'I love God,' and does not keep His commandments, is a liar." (Pope St. Gregory the Great)

"Those who turn aside unto deceits, the Lord shall number with the workers of iniquity. Thou art a God Who hatest all the workers of iniquity: Thou wilt destroy all who speak a lie." (Psalm 124:5; 5:7)

"A man who is a heretic is subverted and sins, being condemned by his own judgement."
(St. Titus 3:10-11)

St. Augustine says: "Heresies are embraced only by those who, had they persevered in the faith, would be lost by the irregularity of their lives."

St. Catherine of Sienna says: "What shows me that your life is badly governed? The poison of heresy! You have deserted the light and gone into darkness! I beg that you delay no more, nor kick against the prick of conscience which I know is perpetually tormenting you. Return, return, and do not wait for the rod of justice. For our faults do not pass unpunished, especially those committed against Holy Church."

St. Frances Xavier Cabrini says: "Many Protestants have almost the same practices as we, only they do not submit to the Holy Father and attach themselves to the true Ark of Salvation. They do not want to become Catholics and unite themselves under the banner of truth wherein alone there is true salvation. Of what avail is it, children, if Protestants lead naturally pure, honest lives, yet lack the Holy Ghost? They may well say: 'We do no harm; we lead good lives'; but, if they do not enter the true fold of Christ, all their protestations are in vain."

St. Peter Julian Eymard says: "People often say, 'It is better to be a good Protestant than a bad Catholic.' That is not true! That would mean that one could be saved without the true faith. No. A bad Catholic remains a child of the family, although a prodigal; and however great a sinner he may be he has a right to mercy. Through his faith, a bad Catholic is nearer to God than a Protestant, for he is a member of the household, whereas the heretic is not. And how hard to make him become one!"

St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori says: "How many are the infidels, heretics, and schismatics who do not enjoy the happiness of the true faith! The earth is full of them, and they are all lost!"

St. Augustine says: "Therefore, we are right in censuring, anathematizing, abhorring, and abominating the perversity of heart shown by heretics."

"We excommunicate and anathematize every heresy, condemning all heretics under whatever names they may be known; for, while they have different faces, they are nevertheless bound to each other by their tails. Secular authorities shall be compelled to exterminate all heretics to the best of their ability, and if, from sufficient evidence, it is apparent that a bishop is negligent in cleansing his diocese of heretical wickedness, let him be deposed and another substituted who will confound heretical depravity. But if any of them by damnable obstinacy disapprove, from this very fact let them be regarded as heretics." (4th Lateran Council)

St. Teresa of Avila says: "I could go forth all by myself against miserable heretics!"

St. Therese of Lisieux says: "How happy I would have been to fight at the of the Crusades or, later on, against the heretics! I want to be a warrior, a martyr! Oh! Is it possible I must die in bed?"

St. Louis, King of France, says: "A Christian should argue with a blasphemer only by running his sword through his bowels as far as it will go."

St. John Chrysostom says: "When a person blasphemes, his mouth should instantly be shut. Strike him in the mouth! Crush it, so that he cannot speak!"

the greetings of the dawn for you, k-san...

upon reflection, lolol, if the 'figure skater' image was too tame, perhaps a better image would be ZORRO; i thought that post was graceful and kickass at the same time. not easy to do in general, especially here....bravo!

how much fun will we have today in our neighborhood, kids?

Russia hides bloody toll of Chechen war


MORE than 3,000 Russian soldiers - double the official death toll - have been killed in the war in Chechnya, according to a senior army officer given the grisly task of counting the dead.

The Russian officer, speaking publicly for the first time, said military authorities were systematically covering up the extent of the losses for fear of alienating public opinion.

Official figures released last week put the number of soldiers and interior ministry troops killed since the war began last September at 1,458, with another 4,495 wounded.

According to the officer's estimates, based on his work registering troops killed in action and on his sources in military hospitals, about a third of those wounded have since died.

The military counts as war dead only those killed in battle. Those who succumb to wounds in hospital are omitted from the statistics. The dead whose bodies are not recovered are listed as "missing".

"At least 3,000 have been killed and more are dying every day," said the Russian officer, who has spent the past four months in a unit that dealt with the bodies. "Add it all up and even a child could see the army's official figures are a lie.

"I alone registered 420 dead since the beginning of October. The army has another collection point which, by November, had dealt with more than 300 bodies. Then there are hundreds of killed soldiers from the interior ministry, who are counted at separate locations. Plus the hundreds who died of horrific wounds in hospitals."

The officer resigned last month after suffering a heart attack that he claimed was brought on by stress.


The bodies were conveyed to a central military morgue in Rostov-on-Don, from where they were sent home. Unidentified bodies were stored in refrigerated carriages.

Conditions in the tent, largely staffed by young conscripts, were appalling, the officer said. Many sought solace in vodka; others had to be relieved of their duties because they could not put up with the horror.

"Some bodies were in such bad shape they barely resembled a human being," he said.

The claims came as little surprise to the Soldiers' Mothers Committee, a group that campaigns for conscripts. It said an army hotline to provide parents with information about conscript sons had reported them alive long after they had died.

"By Ultra Russian Nationalist ( - 63.11.224.236) on Sunday, February 13, 2000 -
04:12
am:
THATS RIGHT, PEOPLE ARE DYING AS WE SLEEP. RUSSIANS ARE DYING
THANKS TO THE PROBLEMS PASSED DOWN BY U.S. WE ARE NOT
CIVILIZED? WHO ARE YOU TO MAKE THAT JUDGEMENT. ONE WHO
JUDGES IS THE IDIOT WHO DOESNT REALIZE THE FACTS. I THINK YOU
YOURSELF ARE A BARBARIAN CANIBAL AND YOUR NATION TOO."

You speak of facts, bit rich for me. Tell me some facts, like problems passed down by
america? One who judges is the idiot? who doesn't know the facts? my nation? Please
elaborate. The facts i gave were from being in turkey last year as i mentioned earlier,
from actualy speaking to one who happend to be living next door. remember people
from all over the world see theese postings as i did. The reply you give determines how
the world see's you. BTW where do you get your facts

Hey Ken,

Don’t waist your breath. Those Russians are thicker than Brick. From some of the posters on this board you'd be hard pressed believing Russia was once a great nations competing with the U.S. for world domination. LOL.

There has to be some intelligent Rooskies out there - Or could they of been riding the longest lucky streak ever known to mankind. LMAO.

February 13 2000 EUROPE




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Squaring up: an ethnic Albanian confronts French troops in Mitrovica, where Serbs have been allowed to drive Albanians from their homes
Photograph: Sergei Chirikov


West abandons dream of a unified Kosovo
Tom Walker



A YEAR after Nato's intervention, the West's dream of Serbs and Albanians living together in Kosovo is dead. Diplomats openly concede that monoethnic cantons are the only solution to the province's intractable hatred, with Serbs confined to the north and vulnerable pockets in the centre and south.
Tit-for-tat bloodshed in Mitrovica, an industrial town where Serbs have been allowed to drive thousands of Albanians from their homes, has illustrated the stark choices facing a territory where Nato's Kfor troops and the United Nations civilian administration have failed to beat the rule of the gun and terrorism.

Western policy-makers have decided that pragmatism must prevail over notions of reconciliation and justice.

"There's no point banging on about it while you can't speak Serbian in Pristina without having your throat cut," said a senior western diplomat. "The Serbs have got to have somewhere to feel safe, and it looks like being Mitrovica."

Albanians have staged angry demonstrations against the tactics of French Kfor troops in Mitrovica, and on Friday they were reinforced by a company from the Royal Green Jackets. But the military objective in the town remains to keep the two populations separated.

Yesterday there was more trouble for Kfor, as an American peacekeeper recovered fron gunshot wounds he received while on guard duty in Gnjilane, and three Albanians were arrested after shooting at Norwegian soldiers near the Serbian community in Obilic. A Russian vehicle also hit a Albanian landmine.

The diplomat, like many others, has run out of patience with the Albanians, for whom the Kosovo Liberation Army continues to run amok. Between 400 and 700 Serbs have been murdered since last summer.

Even Bernard Kouchner, the UN special representative in Kosovo, who has championed the concept of "peaceful co- existence", has confided to aides that he is "fed up" with the KLA leadership.

The current Serbian population in Kosovo is estimated at between 70,000 and 100,000, less than half its pre-war total. The UN believes that municipal elections, planned for the late summer, will identify the handful of Kosovo's 29 municipalities where Serbs remain in the majority, and that from these will be formed the Mitrovica canton and two pockets - probably around the monastery of Gracanica in the centre and the ski resort area of Strpce and Brezovica in the south.

The acceptance of a fundamental failure in the Kosovo mission coincides with rising bellicosity in Belgrade. Slobodan Milosevic, the Yugoslav president, and his generals have eagerly reminded the UN that, under its charter for Kosovo, there is provision for the return of limited numbers of Yugoslav army and Serbian police units.

They have also pointed out that the UN's mandate runs out in June, which the Milosevic regime is billing as a cut-off date for western intervention. In a recent interview with the Politika daily, Milosevic referred to Nato's presence as "temporary".

General Nebojsa Pavkovic, head of Yugoslavia's Third Army, meanwhile said his troops would return to Kosovo, probably in June, as authorised by an agreement signed with Nato last year. Diplomats rule out any reimposition of authority from Belgrade, at least for as long as Milosevic remains in power.

Ron Redmond, a spokesman for the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), said he feared many more Albanians would leave northern Kosovo as Serbian extremists there continued to push for an ethnically "clean" chunk of territory.

Officially, 650 Albanians have left the area under Kfor escort, but the unofficial figure is much higher. Some western sources estimate several thousand Albanians have moved over the past week.

If Serbian cantons are established, Kfor's work will become considerably easier and more like that of its sister force in Bosnia, where, despite five years of peace, the Serbian, Croatian and Muslim communities remain resolutely divided.

Blalalalaïka

Death toll is higher than ofificialy admited, that's right.
3000, 3500. I agreee with these number.

That's so bad this war happend. Why Chechens couldn't leave in peace with russian. Why islamists had to come and destroyed the peace agreement. Why the rebels had too have 10 000 freedom fighter dead while in peacetime they could be alive and work for theyr country?
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To Turk and everyone

I'm not gay!
It was a joke for Adder21.
I like women as much as Huh! does.

Special for IBM'Umar

" The Taliban authorities, who have no diplomatic relations with Britain, have asked for the return of all the hostages."

Intresting they call them ostages (in theyr home country) rather than passengers;

Taliban Foreign Minister Wakil Ahmad Mutta'wanna'kil told reporters in Kandahar.