Original Message
To: President of Russia
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 2:30 PM
Subject: RUSSIAN SUBVERSION THROUGH MIS-EDUCATION
MILLIONS OF THE WORLDS INHABITANTS (ESPECIALLY EDUCATED RUSSIANS AND NON - RUSSIANS, REAL CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS AND JEWS OF DIFFERENT NATIONALITIES) ARE COMPLETELY AWARE OF PUTINS' RELENTLESS PURSUIT TO DOMINATE AND RULE (NOT WITHSTANDING ELIMINATION OF THE DEFENSELESS CIVILIANS WHO ARE DEPENDENT ON PENSIONS AND SUBSIDIES FROM THE SO-CALLED FATHER LAND RUSSIA) MINORITIES IN RUSSIA. (given a chance or a hint of weak spot on the planet is a target of Russia too)
HISTORY BOOKS ARE FILLED WITH ACCOUNTS OF RUSSIAN SUBVERSION THROUGH MIS-EDUCATION OF ITS OWN CITIZENS. HISTORIANS HAVE RECORDED AND DOCUMENTED CENTURIES AND DECADES OF FACTS WITH RESPECT TO RUSSIAN RESTRAINS ON THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND RELIGION AND THE FREEDOM OF A PERSONS' RIGHT TO LIFE AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS AND ABOVE ALL THE RIGHT TO DUE PROCESS OF LAW WHEN A CITIZEN (OR EVEN AN ALIEN) IS ACCUSED OF A CRIME.
RUSSIAN MIS-EDUCATION PROGRAMS ARE DESIGNED TO PERPETUATE THEIR CONTINUED DOMINATION OVER A PEOPLE THEY VIEW AS SUBSERVIENT. THE SUBSERVIENT CARRY OUT THE WISH OF THE OPPRESSIVE RULERS. THE MIS-EDUCATION PROCESS HAS EFFECTIVELY REMOVED THE NATURAL TENDENCY TO ESTABLISH INSTITUTIONS IN THE INTEREST OF INDIVIDUALS OR A SELF, BUT RATHER IN THE PROTECTION AND INTEREST OF OTHERS INCLUDED THE RULING PARTY OR "THE FAMILY".
WHEN VIEWED FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE OPPRESSED PEOPLE, THE OPPRESSIVE TREATMENT WHICH THEY RECEIVED COULD BE CONSIDERED SUFFICIENT MOTIVE FOR INTENSE ANGER AND A DESIRE FOR "REVENGE".
IN CONCLUSION TO THIS STATEMENT (AT THIS TIME) I SUBMIT THAT PUTINS' NEW RUSSIA AND ITS' ACTIONS IN CHECHNYA IS INDICATIVE OF AN ENRAGED COLONIZER OR SLAVE MASTER WHO IS SUBJECTING ITS' SLAVES TO PUNISHMENT UP TO NEAR EXTERMINATION!
I SUBMIT THAT PUTIN AND HIS PARTY'S ACTIONS AGAINST THE CHECHENS ARE TARGETED TO ELIMINATE THE GROUPS OF CHECHENS WHICH HAVE POSED A THIRST FOR INDEPENDENCE AND SELF RULE. THESE GROUPS (ACCORDING TO PUTIN) ARE ALMOST ALL MALES BETWEEN THE AGE OF 10 TO 65 WHO THE SLAVE MASTERS CLAIM POSE THE MOST LEVEL OF THREAT (TO PUTINS' SPECIAL FAMILY OF RUSSIANS) SINCE THEY (10 TO 65 YEAR OLDS) HAVE BEEN "CONTAMINATED BY REAL EDUCATION".
YOUNG GIRLS AND WOMEN ARE BEING RAPED BY RUSSIANS (WHOLESALE) IN ORDER TO HUMILIATE THEM AND THE REMAINING MALES. ANOTHER PURPOSE FOR THIS IS TO DEMONSTRATE THE RULE OF THE ROD OF THE MASTER IS HERE TO STAY.
MORE TO FOLLOW IN DAYS TO COME.
JISBOND
Reference material from Dr. James H. Rasheed, Ph.D.
WHERE IS L'MNIEXE???LOL..., I GUESS HE IS IN SCHOOL...., BEING, OF THE UN-EDUCATED VARIETY!!
....WHER EIS COALITION??I HAVE MISSION FOR THEM...URN...HAIRY-MARY...SULEYMAN..., TALK TO ME, BIG-CHIEFS??HOWS IT HANGING..WHATS NEW..., HOW CAN WE MAKE PEACE......(-:
Jisbond.., i see that you, also..suffer from memory-Loss!!!chechyna..had their Independence...., but Instead..,they wanted, Province, apart from Russia.., this is NOT Feasible.., this is like..Texas, in USA..ASKING TO SPLIT FROM USA, TO MEXICO??Apparently.., you are either muslim..., or support Chechyna.., because you make Erroneous comments, about the Truth!Chechyna was warned, before Troops went there, but , Instead..these so-called 'REBELS'..., Decided to Bomb Innocent civilians.., so I ,say..they got what was coming to them..have a NICE-DAY (-:
History Lesson, for Jisbond over there....:
Ok, Organization of Russian States, was Created, to Give Provinces, More Opportunity, at Self-Rule, but Only as a Province, AND NOT, AS SEPARATIST STATE!!
Much like Democracy of Western Hemisphere, in which, Different States, have Different Legislatory practice, they are STILL HELD, ACCOUNTBALE ,BY FEDERALIZED FORM OF GOVERNMENT, for Example.., in USA.., Each State has Own Constitution,and state assemblies... However, they also must Answer to Federal Part of Government, to Comply with all Govt. Practice!In-Theory, and Practice, this is HOW MAJORITY OF WORLD IS ORGANIZED.., BUT , HISTORICALLY, THE MUSLIM, HAS SOUGHT TO SET GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS, OUTSIDE OF FEDERALIZED RULE...., Resulting in Anarchistic Fervor, and Terrorism...Lebanon..west Bank...etc..etc...
..PAY ME LATER, FOR THIS GOVT. , i.e., History lesson....(-:
To: True Russian:
I do not recall seeing any place in the History Books where Chechnya or Chechens ever voluntarily joined the Russian federation.
Thanks for comments.
One only has to look at Russian history and see how The Russians have dealt with oppositions in the Past. I received a report recently that Putin actually said that(He Putin)would make war
against God to win this war against all Chechens! ( I will find the source and forward it later jisbond)
Russians should study their Past before Divining the future any people. Not much good in way of politics has ever come out of Russia except for bad ideology and bad politics after many of their wars. It may be said Russians have made bigger weapons and invaded more ethnic territories even so they do today - with their cousins in the Bolkans too.
Read Russian Political and military History: (two sights ~ search for more. jisbond)
http://www.mmmfiles.com/20tha03.htm
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/bcaplan/museum/his1f.htm
Turkish Mohammedans expose each others' gruesome bloodthirst.
A Mohammedan pattern of using women and children as human shields revealed.
Turkish minister: Militants used human shields 02/15/2000
Associated Press Newswires
02/15/2000
ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - Turkey's interior minister claimed Tuesday that Islamic militants used women and children as human shields in gunbattles against police which left 10 dead.
The fighting was the bloodiest since police launched a massive crackdown against the Hezbollah group which aims to form an Islamic state in the mostly Kurdish southeast. The militants are not linked to the Lebanese group of the same name.
Five policemen and five Hezbollah militants were killed in two separate shootouts Monday in the southeastern city of Van. Initial reports said only three gunmen were killed, but police Tuesday
raised that count to five.
Interior Minister Sadettin Tantan accused the militants of keeping women and children in their hideouts as human shields, the Anatolia news agency reported.
"That is why police were acting shy and as a result police were killed," the agency quoted Tantan as saying.
National Police Chief Turan Genc, who is in China with Tantan, said police saw the silhouettes of women and children in the
windows of the houses.
It was not clear if the women and children were family members and were living in the houses with the men.
Police said Tuesday that the militants hurled grenades at police and opened fire with automatic rifles. The dead militants included
a regional commander and a leader of the group's armed wing.
Police have carried out several raids against Hezbollah in recent weeks, but Monday was the first time the two sides battled since police killed Huseyin Velioglu, the leader of Hezbollah's militant wing, in January.
Police have detained more than 1,000 suspected Hezbollah militants and unearthed more than 50 bodies of presumed victims of the group.
>>>By igor ( - 206.47.244.62) on Friday, February 18, 2000 - 09:01 pm:
Turk I will not be a hypocrite.I can not stand any of your kind especially the Chechens and as far as I am concerned any able bodied men left in those areas are fighters because why else would they stay.The civilians in the villages that they are fighting in have had 6 months to leave so if they help bandits FUUUCK EM >>>
Igor,
That makes you a much better person than either DINGO (should I say Dimitri), or IBNE UMAR. Well done for deciding not to be a hypocrite. . I respect people who come forward for either good or bad.
Yes, I don't agree with what you are saying, and that's make you one of my enemy, but atleast you are saying what you think.
TO THE WHOLE WORLD:
GUILTY RUSSIANS FEAR NOTHING!
& RUSSIAN LIES ARE AN ECHO OF HITLERS' VOICE AND HIS CRONIES.
IF THE RUSSIAN OFFICIALS CLAIM THAT ALL ALLEGATIONS OF
HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, COMMITTED BY THE RUSSIANS,
AGAINST CHECHENS ARE FALSE ~ THEN ANY ONE CAN DEDUCE,
BASED ON COMMON SENSE, THAT THE RUSSIANS ARE EITHER
SAINTS OR LIARS THEMSELVES!!
MY COMMON SENSE TELLS ME: RUSSIAN DENIALS OF TOTAL AND ABSOLUTE WRONG DOING AND BY DISALLOWING INDEPENDENT MONITORS - IN - TO INVESTIGATE THE ALLEGED CRIMES IS ENOUGH TO CONVINCE ANY THINKING PERSON THAT RUSSIANS MUST BE TRYING TO HOLD INSPECTORS - OUT LONG ENOUGH - TO COVER ANY TRAIL OF EVIDENCE
WHICH COULD INCRIMINATE THE RUSSIANS THEMSELVES!
REGARDS
jisbond
Kai Ivari wrote:
By Michael Steen
MOSCOW, Feb 17
(Reuters) - Russia
protested to the United States on Thursday over its talks with a Chechen official as pressure mounted on Moscow to answer international accusations that its military had violated human rights in Chechnya.
The U.N. high commissioner for human rights, Mary Robinson, said on Wednesday that Mosco should safeguard basic human rights, citing allegations that the military had committed indiscriminate bombing, executions and rape against civilians.
Moscow has denied abuses during its operation to eradicate separatist rebels in the North Caucasian region.
For its part, the Foreign Ministry released a statement describing a meeting this week between U.S. officials and a Chechen envoy, Seilam Beshayev, as "absolutely unacceptable".
The State Department said the talks concerned mainly humanitarian issues.
Russia had yet to respond to Robinson. The Kremlin's Chechnya spokesman, Sergei Yastrzhembsky, was due to hold a news conference at 1200 GMT, after canceling his daily briefing on Wednesday.
Nearly five months into the conflict, Russian forces have seized most of Chechnya's lowlands including the capital Grozny and are now battling up to 8,000 remaining guerrillas in the southern mountains.
RUSSIAN PEOPLE BACK 'ANTI-TERRORIST OPERATION' The campaign remains popular among
Russians. A new survey by pollsters VTsIOM, quoted by RIA news agency, said 70 percent of those questioned supported the "anti-terrorist operation". The rebels have threatened to stage hit-and-run attacks in Russian-held areas. Moscow has sealed off Grozny and said Interior Ministry troops are
tracking down any rebels hiding in the civilian population throughout Chechnya.
Human rights groups and some Western media have criticized Moscow's use of detention centers as part of that operation.
The centers, also called "filtration camps", are used for interrogating suspects.
Ruslan, 20, a refugee in a tent camp at Sleptsovsk just outside Chechnya, told Reuters Television
on Wednesday he had been held at one such camp for 21 days.
"They poisoned us with gas. There were three (other) men in the ward. They can't hear anything because their ears were damaged... Their hands are broken, their teeth are broken too.
"Their mouths were sliced," he said, drawing a line across his own lips. "I still had 95 percent of my health when I left the camp. Others who were with me are totally crippled."
Ruslan said he was held at Chernokozovo, a camp 50 kms (30miles) north of Grozny which a London weekly newspaper, the Observer, has dubbed "the factory of death".
'BLATANT LIES' Russia's deputy justice minister has denied there were any abuses at Chernokozovo, calling reports of torture "blatant lies".
Yastrzhembsky has said European monitors will be allowed to visit the detention centre. New York-based Human Rights Watch has said it has collected testimonies confirming the deaths of 41 Chechen civilians at the hands of Russian soldiers. Russian authorities said Human Rights Watch had been misled by rebel propaganda.
In Geneva, Robinson cited allegations of civilian executions and rapes of Chechen women by Russian
forces. She said reports had also been shown to her by the International Committee of the Red Cross,
which helps victims of conflict. In a statement issued after Russian authorities turned down her request to visit
Chechnya, the U.N. human rights overseer spoke of a "catastrophic situation facing civilians (there)".
Russia said talks at the State Department in Washington on Monday with the Chechen representative presented an unfriendly step and it expected Washington to refrain from such contacts in future.
Meanwhile, Russian forces in the icy mountains of southern Chechnya appeared intent on wearing down the rebels with long range weapons before launching a final assault on bases located mostly in steep ravines.
Interfax news agency quoted the military as saying its aviation had flown 63 combat missions with jets and attack helicopters in the past 24 hours but was restrained by bad weather.
Interfax also reported fighting on heights surrounding either end of the Argun gorge, which Russian troops have blocked. The rebel website Kavkaz.org said fighting was intensifying in the area.
To: Turk
A report was put up about the blind who could not leave Chechnya.
will find report and post it later.
thanks for comments.
Jisbond..see, thats MY POINT, EXACTLY!!!If they could Live in this region, for Thousands of years, then why do they want separate state??Ill TELL YOU WHY...., BECAUS E THEY ARE TERRORISTS, AND WANT TO FURTHER THEIR MUSLIM-HERITAGE...STUDY ISLAMIC RELIGION.., AND COME SEE ME!!
/...THEY SEE ISRAEL..GIVING UP, LAND.., SO THEY TAKE ATTITUDE..OF ..WHY NOT SEEK TO TAKE LAND, LIKE LEBANESE, AND ..ALL THOSE WHO..., PLUS THEY SEE KOSOVO PARTITIONED.., AND THEY WANT , WHAT THEY HAVE.., HOWEVER..., THIS SI NOT THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE..'ROGUE-STATES'..HAVE NO POLITICAL AFFECTION'S, IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD!!!
....ALL DOWN THRU HISTORY, THE MUSLIM, HAS CRIED OUT,FOR PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.., AND WHEN THEY DONT RECEIVE., THEY ATTEMPT TO OVERTHROW.., and take lands--->i.e, LEBANON..ALBANIA....IRAQ..IRAN..,Kosovo,croatia.. TURKEY..District of Columbia...SHOULD I SAY MORE??
...THE CHECHYN ..WILL NEVER LIVE IN PEACE, IN RUSSIA..'EVER AGAIN'...THEY HAD CHANCE OF INDEPENDENCE.., BUT THEY ASKED FOR TOO MUCH..
I do not recall any place in History books where the land belonged to Russia to give to the Chechens who have been there from time immemorial.
Muslims Bible: Gospel of Jesus according to his first disciple Barnabas: http://barnabas.net/
Islamic history is not about territory but about stamping out imported immorality which threatens its children.
thanks for your observations and comments
BIG DOG...ALWAYS EATS LITTLE DOG..THIS IS UN-DENIABLE....
Jisbond..is Obvious BLIND TO TRUTH!!!!The Coverup...NATO PLAYED OUT IN KOSOVO..WONT WORK , HERE IN RUSSIA...MY FRIEND!!MADELEINE COWBRIGHT..CANT GET SUPPORT, FOR EVEN ATTEMPTING TO COME HERE...LOL
...I PRAY FOR OUR SERBIAN BROTHERS'.., AND MAY THEY TAKE BACK..WHAT IS , "RIGHTFULLY THEIRS"!!!.., SOONER...RATHER THAN LATER.., THEN COME WITH YOUR TRINKET-WEARING IDEALOGY, OF PROSPERITY, AND CAPITALISM/GREED..LOOK HOW EAST GERMANY..WITHERED...'AFTER' BERLIN WALL CAME DOWN!!YOU KNOW WHY??BECAUSE WESTERN BUSINESSES..TOOK THEIR LAND, WHICH THEY COULDN'T KEEP!!!
"CAPITALISM..ONLY WORKS, WHERE, THE OPPORTUNITY, FOR GREED EXISTS..."that was by Karl Marx..by the way, in case you didnt know!
GREED HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE DEVIL.., AND IN AND OUT OF HIS HAND, HAS ALWAYS EMERGED..DEATH & DESTRUCTION...OLDER U.S.S.R., WAS MUCH BETTER OFF, THAN ORGANIZATION OF RUSSIAN STATES..THIS IS FACT.., AND ALSO..WHY, HARDLINERS'..ARE COMING , BACK TO POWER!!!
CHECHYNS'..SHOULD BE THANKFUL, THAT COMPASSION, HAS BEEN GIVEN THEM!THE U.S.A., WOULD HAVE TAKEN LAND....USED IT FOR OWN 'GREED'.., OR WHAT THEY CALL..'HUMANITARIAN-CARE'..THIS IS A JOKE!!!THAT WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING, HAS NEVER BEEN MORE EXPOSED TO THE WORLD.., AND HER TIME COMES...."SOON"
By TRUE RUSSIAN ( - 152.167.4.130) on Friday, February 18, 2000 - 10:06 pm:
>Jisbond.., i see that you, also..suffer from
>memory-Loss!!!chechyna..had their
>Independence...., but Instead..,they wanted,
>Province, apart from Russia.., this is NOT
>Feasible.., this is like..Texas, in USA..ASKING
>TO SPLIT FROM USA, TO MEXICO??
Texas is not in the USA. Texas is an inseparable part of New Spain, as is Mexico, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah, and Colorado.
The United States regime is an illegal criminal regime, a Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization (RICO), and has no legal right to exist. In fact, the U.S.A. is not a country, but a corporation chartered in England.
Just as the Jewish Entity occupying Palestine and the Turkish Beast occupying Western Armenia and Eastern Byzantium, have no right to exist, so also the Illuminati/Masonic U.S. Great Satan has no right to exist.
To True Russian:
Just like I wrote to Mr. Putin about animal behavior.
Attention: Mr. Putin
Dear Sir:
I thought I should include a statement which I heard on a radio program today on WESB today. on the subject of morality: A Doctor Laura Schlesinger stated that since Communism is based on Atheism and Darwinism and that people raised as Communists , which believe that every one weak and less productive and less fortunate should be eliminated (which I might add, the Russians are practicing right now) the die hard Communist that is born and bred or indoctrinated do not see themselves as having any need to practice morality since they are answerable to no one greater outside themselves. Also Doctor Laura stated that TRUTH in Communism is what ever serves it best.
I mentioned this statement because you may be able to convince certain Doctors to attest that many Russians seriously do not realize there actions in Chechnya as immoral since they have not been schooled or indoctrinated in the same way as many of us who were at some point in our lives taught morality through our various religions which teaches us that at some point we are morally responsible toward our fellow brothers (human beings) in as far as respecting individual rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness no matter where we live on this planet and no matter what state the social and economic circumstances may be. That if the problem is not resolved - peacefully or otherwise - in Chechnya today then Russians, for generations to come, will be predators toward all weaker nations.(as they, the Russians, are justified by the only indoctrinated truth which they have been raised under
for- at least - the last 50 years).
You may wish to point out to western authorities that there is a large population of highly indoctrinated and Ambitious (Russians some of whom are also atheist, Communist and Darwinist) leaders who are - not only willing, but determined - to put in to practice what they have been taught for years. These Russians are determined to pray upon and against any individual and any group of people which may show any -slight - sign of weakness of any kind.
If you approach the western leaders with this truth and show the historical patterns behind leaders such as the current ones in Russia then demonstrate that in Communist regimes the most likely direction the population is likely to be lead or follow (after Communism has fallen) is that of FASCISM.
Fascists basically test the opponents and the opponents allies - little by little - infringing on peoples
rights to life and liberties and that of the weaker individuals, and that of groups and then that of whole nations - one by one - singling them out by intimidation and threats, and then will come force, and
- inevitably - the process of elimination begins.
It dose not matter to the Atheistic Communist or Fascist, state or individual, who is eliminated in their path to supremacy and eventual rule since they have no conscience moral values or even feeling toward the weak, because, they are become just as Darwin had observed in the Animal kingdom. Animals are territorial, competitive, and predatory since Animals do not posses intelligence, or awareness of right and wrong, or a will to resist what we call temptations from our desires and ambitions which may easily become corrupted with out moral practice.
However there is hope for any human to go through reform. As you and I, and other morally trained individuals know that: In order to bring any individual or group under reform, of any kind, there will be resistance due to lack of understandings, on the part of those to be reformed, and the unnecessary fears in the unfamiliarity and insecurities of the - now - new unknowns to the unfortunate Atheist, Fascist and or Communist.
All these educational qualities and values have been removed from the masses (in Russia or in any other atheistic country) from within their school system, from early childhood, and from the older generation, by force and or by fear of persecution, that if they - the citizens - (or better defined as subjects of the state) were ever reported or, by the slip of the tong, found to have attended Church or taught others within the privacy of their homes (about morality or religion or God) they would be subject to elimination or punishment in order to preserve the doctrine which the ruling parties (of the first days) truly thought would be the doctrine for the ruling parties and their citizens (or subjects) liberation from what ever adversity which may one day face their people and or - ultimately - mankind as a whole.
Unfortunately for those Atheists, Communists and Fascists, who chose ignorance - not by will but through fear - and through the lack of knowledge - at a high cost to themselves - (even that of their own deaths) in what they truly see as self defense and or self preservation through predatory behaviors {as was taught to them}) for fear that others in the world see every thing as they do may be out to dominate and eventually destroy the balance of all remaining atheists, Communists, etc.
Fortunately for the ones who survive the resistance - of the uneducated unfortunates - and fortunately for those who chose to observe and see and understand and share - their newly found enlightenment - there will be ample time to recover as fully reformed individuals with faith and morals. Those who chose their newly found fortune - in knowledge - and faith - which teaches morality to them can now pursue and seek out and eventually find their basic freedom to life liberty and the pursuit of their happiness.
Best Regards As Your Brother In Our Father Adam.
jisbond