"""By Dimitri ( - 208.198.122.14) on Friday, February 4, 2000 - 03:25 pm:
E,

I have noticed exactly the same about Turk - seems like his rage and hatred carries him away, big time; """

Rage and hatred? In your dreams. I am only pointing on inconsistencies, and stupidity in some posts. Rage and hatred is a Russian (and to some extent Armenian) mind-frame. It is a sign of being on a lower level of personal development. Don't tell me I am generalising. Just look at the posts coming from RF supporters againts Turks. Most of them without provocation, or prompting. A few of you are not bad, but bulk of them are purely displaying animal qualities on the net.

It is possible to fight on the battle field, or argue in the net in a civilised manner. Did I ever talked about mothers or sisters of anyone of you? Did I ever talk about invading, killing, or bombings? I am sorry if I am sometimes pricking your pride by serving truth to cure megalomaniacs.

"""By IGOR ( - 206.47.244.62) on Friday, February 4, 2000 - 05:27 pm:

If they destroyed us why are we still here ---a mirage? """

You mean in Canada, living on welfare? That explains!

""""If this is upsetting to you, then why the hell most of the russian soldiers pictured in Cechnya look like Turkic, or Mongol. So your best fighters must be sons of Turks and Mongols trapped in Russia""""

Damn, Turk, Russia is a big country that NEVER kiddnapped Turks UNLIKE YOUR COUNTRY DID WITH RUSSIAN CHILDREN, you HYPOCRITICAL BASTARD...they still have "human" bazaars in Istambul, you two-face..or is it three-face?????


So stop flattering yourself - There are NO turkish-born soldiers among Russia's Army..

You are such a lieing bastard! I can't belive I actually thought you are worthy opponent!!! MY MISTAKE..Like "E" told your lame arse - You are pathetic - AND SO ARE YOUR RECENT POSTINGS!!!

WHAT MAY I ASK ARE YOU SO PROUD OF? BEFORE ACCUSING ANOTHER COUTRY OF SINS - TAKE A LOOOONG DEEEP LOOK AT YOU OWN COUTRY "DEEDS" - How did you respond of "E's" accusation of kiddnapping Slavic children, again?????""""if it upsets you""", you said..

And after that you f****g dare to ask for humanity with that "rape" story of yours????

YOU HAVE LOST YOUR PRIVILEDGE TO BE ADDRESSED TO
AS A SOMEONE WORTH TALKING TO...PATHETIC YOU ARE INDEED.

By Dimitri ( - 208.198.122.14) on Friday, February 4, 2000 - 05:35 pm:

""""Why they can't do whatever they want against a bankrupt, weak Russia? """"

Turk,

Cuz they have enough nukes, and US is smart enough to acknowledge it...DUH! Doesn't take a rocket-scientist to figure that one out,oh naive one..

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I thought I read yesterday that Americans detained a Russian oil tanker. This was unthinkable during the Soviets era. Yet now they can, and they did. You are intelligent enough to understand what this means. The only problem is you guys have too much pride to accept the truth.

Did you noticed Putin lowered the nuclear threshold. Why? Because he knows that Russia has nothing else left to resist USA domination.

"""A few of you are not bad"""

Turk,
I guess I should thank you for such "compliment" TO SOME OF US.. I guess that is sooooo flattering...oh wait - I almost forgot - YOU ARE THE ONE WITH A "GOOD PERSON" label on it(sorry, I meant yourself.

I could careless what you think about me.. I would much rather talk to someone who's rude but not a soaked in his own BS. YOU REALLY DISGUST ME,

BS-suppoters AND HYPOCRATS - SCREW'EM ALL..that goes for you, PAL..

lieing sack of shmear...brrrr.

I think Putin lowering the nuclear threshold was just a bunch of grand standing and saber rattling, nothing to worry about. About the Russian tanker there is one fact about it that needs to be pointed out. The tanker is privately owned and not owned by the Russian Government but it was sailing under the Russian flag.

"""I thought I read yesterday that Americans detained a Russian oil tanker"""

Turk..would you care to give me a LINK or a SOURCE????

it'd be better if you do..if you care about your reputation of an "honest" person..

Turk,

listen , you HYPOCRITE, are you going to answer ALL the questions or only the once that you prefer to answer?????????????

Unaswered Questions:

1)Slavic children, kiddnapped by your countrymen(freaking animals -they SELL children!!!!!!!!!)

2)"victoiriies" of Turkey over Russia(Just that Frase "Turkey vs Russia" makes me wanna laugh)..maybe that's why you like US so much..

of you don't answer at least those two and answer'em H_O_N_E_S_T_L_Y, THEN IT WILL BE SO CLEAR THAT YOU HAVE AN EGO PROBLEM, PAL.

Dimitri, Igor,

Aren't you displaying an attitude of "I can't discuss with you in a logical way and with facts, so I'll resort to personal attacks and if it doesn't succeed I'll stop talking to you"

Very childish!

What we are talking here. As far as I can see you are trying to prove that Russia is still a great power. Well, go and look at OECD site, and see the statistics. Per capita income in Russia is 4 times lower than TURKEY. Yet Turkey's per capita income is 5 times lower than USA. I am not saying this to upset you, but just to point some facts.

If Russia ended up like this, you have to ask yourself, what is the reason? Do you want to have a nuclear weapon, but a bankrupt economy, with life expectancy at 58. Only some african countries with huge AIDS epidemic has a lower life expectancy than Russia. Again, I am not trying to insult anyone. OPEN YOUR EYES TO FACTS.

What Russia doing is trying to cling an empire, while she has no means to maintain it. Ottoman empire went through a similar phase. Hundreds of thousands of Turks died in all sort of battles far away from Turkey. It was wrong. Now Russia is going through a similar phase. What they are doing is wrong.

When you evaluate something always look at its outcome.

"""""The tanker is privately owned and not owned by the Russian Government but it was sailing under the Russian flag.""""

Thank you Gonzo..

TURK - DO YOU HEAR THAT, YOU MEGA-HYPOCRITE - PRIVATELY O-W-E-N-E-D..
YOU DAMN LIAR USING LOW TRICKS TO PROVE YOUR POINT.

Turk,

sneaky-turk, answer to ME and do NOT refer to me as"Igor, Dimitri"
I asked you a question and I(not WE) want to hear the answer you HYPOCRITE...

how many requests does it take before you talk about the questions asked???? 3? 4?


what facts are you babbling about?????????????

THE ONLY FACT YOU BROUGHT TO DAY (ABOUT THE TANKER) - WAS A FALSE-FACT...REMEMBER? - PRIVATELY OWENED? ANY OTHER "FACTS" FROM YOU ???

BTW I still don't see a link for that one, my dear HYPO..

"""By Dimitri ( - 208.198.122.14) on Friday, February 4, 2000 - 06:38 pm:
Turk,

listen , you HYPOCRITE, are you going to answer ALL the questions or only the once that you prefer to answer?????????????

Unaswered Questions:

1)Slavic children, kiddnapped by your countrymen(freaking animals -they SELL children!!!!!!!!!)

2)"victoiriies" of Turkey over Russia(Just that Frase "Turkey vs Russia" makes me wanna laugh)..maybe that's why you like US so much.. """

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Dimitri,
1) If you think that I'll defend what happened in history, you are wrong. The only good thing about history is to learn something from it, particularly from the mistakes.

2) You are sounding a bit like supporter of a soccer team, "my team is much better than yours, blah, blah"

Grow up.

It must be real painful for you and Igor. You are reasonably intelligent to see the facts, but you obviously don't like what you see.

It always pays to be a realist. Nothing to shame of. Empires comes and go. Russian Empire is doomed, can not resist the tide of the forces. See the following from Igor's post:

"However, he said that already "globalization and the permeability of borders to the flow of people, goods and information are all combining to erode state sovereignty," and that state power "is shifting in three directions: outward to non-state actors, downward to subnational and local levels of government, and upward, to a certain degree, to regional and international institutions and legal regimes."

Turk..what are you gonna tell me now? that I an childlish?..hehe..weak.

rather be childlish than a lier(all eyes, take my intellegent word for it..

"""By Dimitri ( - 208.198.122.14) on Friday, February 4, 2000 - 06:46 pm:
"""""The tanker is privately owned and not owned by the Russian Government but it was sailing under the Russian flag.""""

Thank you Gonzo..

TURK - DO YOU HEAR THAT, YOU MEGA-HYPOCRITE - PRIVATELY O-W-E-N-E-D..
YOU DAMN LIAR USING LOW TRICKS TO PROVE YOUR POINT. """

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Did I say it wasn't privately owned. It can be one of the oil tankers privitised by Yelstin, or recently purchased by one of your oil barons, why should I care?

All I said, USA could not board a ship flying Russian flag during the Soviet era. But now they can, and they did. Do you want to argue against the point I am making, rather than trying to sideline the issue?

By Armenian+ ( - 158.252.217.158) on Friday, February 4, 2000 - 01:34 pm

AND IGOR AND GANGS

You guys are lowest lavel animal that I ever seen. The bigest fool and lowlife is he who curse the CREATOR.

SO GET READY TO FRY FOR EVER.
Enjoy your brief life while you are in this world.


abdullah