Boozo:
>>>By BOOZO ( - 207.140.138.195) on Wednesday, February 9, 2000 - 03:12 pm:
# I don't get it.. what's wrong with the above??
it is nice story..
;-)) #
>>Gut the bastards paid in kind now and after Ruskie Air Force start using those big ones sending bastards to their heaven girls with their balls down there hangin' on trees ... <<
Boozo:
till then, i am enjoying the story that Ibn Fag posted.hahahahahaha.....
i'd love to see that tape, it would make the best apetizer...yummy
That why Chechen bastards got what they deserve.They are lucky I am not there otherwise I would wipe them all out,dirty scummy Islamic dogs.Not one dime to rebuild Grozny.
LOOK at these ass licking Chechen prisoners.Summarary executions recomended.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20000209/wl/mdf46874.html
B I really enjoyed this article
Chechens 'raped and beaten' in detention camps
By Patrick Cockburn in Nazran, Ingushetia
10 February 2000
Chechen men are being systematically raped, beaten and killed in a Russian-run detention camp in northern Chechnya, according to a letter from a Russian soldier stationed at the camp, which has been obtained by The Independent. "They are literally being killed here," the soldier writes. "One just has to hear the cries of robust healthy guys whose bones are being broken. Some of them are also being raped. They also force some of them to rape another. If there is a 'hell' one can see it here."
The soldier, who signs himself "N", writes that he cannot give his real name "for obvious reasons". He is doing his military service at Chernokozovo camp close to the Terek river in northern Chechnya, he says. The Russian government has confirmed that suspected Chechen rebels are imprisoned at Chernokozovo.
The writer says he feels compelled to speak out "because I cannot stand it when I know this and don't do anything against it". Andrei Babitsky, a Radio Liberty journalist handed over to the Chechens by the Russian security services in exchange for captured Russian soldiers, was held in Chernokozovo, he says. Mr Babitsky was not raped, "but they beat him so badly that his glasses were flying in the air, poor guy".
The letter is dated 3 February and covers three sides of paper. The writer admits that he is not very literate. His shaky grammar appears to indicate that he is a young, poorly educated conscript. The accuracy of his account is underlined by his use of prison slang. Some of his facts can be confirmed. Radio Liberty journalists learnt that Mr Babitsky was in Chernokozovo more than a week ago.
For months, thousands of Chechens, mostly young men, have been detained by the Russians in Chechnya, without anybody being able to find out what has happened to them. Attempts by relatives to contact family members inside Chernokozovo and other prisons have usually failed.
The young soldier reveals to the outside world, for the first time, what is happening inside one of the dreaded "filtration" camps where Russian security says it is separating guerrillas from civilians. It now appears that they are being subjected to punishments of extraordinary brutality. "N" says, as if possessed by a sense of guilt, that he himself could be "numbered among the butchers, though a rank-and-file one". There are some 700 detainees in the camp, but only seven are really suspected of taking part in the war, he says.
Most of those subjected to homosexual rape and beating are in their late teens and have been detained for minor offences such as not having registered their passports or having no passport at all, he says. Others were arrested while smoking a cigarette outside their homes or walking to a neighbouring village or for having a military-style raincoat or belt in their houses..
His account of what is happening inside the camp is all the more convincing because he expresses no sympathy for the seven suspected Chechen fighters. "They are one-half rotten so they deserve it and I don't have compassion for them." He adds that two of the alleged guerrillas were shot.
Homosexual rape is common in Russia's prisons. "It is used as an instrument of humiliation," one former prisoner says. "The guards also call prisoners who have been raped by women's names."
This is the first time, however, that such systematic assault has been reported in Chechnya, a conservative, Islamic society with strict sexual mores. The news that a soldier at Chernokozovo confirms that such methods are being used is likely to provoke a furious reaction among Chechens.
Several times, the writer repeats that the prisoners he has seen have not fought against Russia. In anguish, he writes: "I cannot describe the exotic methods they use to break the human spirit, to turn a human being into an animal."
Local people in the district where Chernokozovo is situated say they have not been able to get into the prison, which they describe as a grim brick building with four visible watch towers. Fatima, a local human rights activist who did not want her family name published, said that women in a market beside the prison "could not bear to listen to the screams of pain coming from inside".
A local civil police commander called Nurdy Ildarov, arrested at the beginning of last month though he had worked for both Chechen and Russian governments, was so badly beaten that "his hands were broken and his backbone damaged", Fatima said. "He died at the end of the month and his family had to buy his body from the Russians." Several badly beaten prisoners have been released but they were told by guards that their families would be killed if they spoke about what had happened to them inside the prison, she said.
"N", whose identity may never be known, said he was "brainwashed to believe that all Chechens were enemies and criminals". Now he realises they are normal people and pleads for somebody to help them.
I think the Chechen guys enjoy their stay at those recreation camps hahahahahahahahaha Like I said payback is a bitch.When they were kidnapping Russians these people had to know what was going on and did nothing.
MORE GOOD NEWS
The Russian army says some 300 rebels are still fighting in Grozny, the Chechen capital, but not in organised units. They also say 5,000 rebel fighters have surrendered. Chechens say such figures are exaggerated because the Russian army counts all Chechenmen as rebels.
The Russian airforce confirmed yesterday that it was using 1.5 ton "vacuum bombs" on rebel forces holding the Argun gorge, which is the gateway to the mountains. It said: "The aviation munitions used earlier have proved ineffective in the mountains." Vacuum bombs produce shock waves that are effective even against soldiers in bunkers. Moscow has denied they are banned by international conventions.
Sharip Yusupov, representative in Moscow of Chechnya's President, Aslan Maskhadov, told Ekho Moskvy radio that Mr Babitsky is alive and in Chechen hands. Mr Yusupov also said that President Maskhadov is categorically against any "terrorist acts" on the territory of Russia. But he added that "to hold back any of the field commanders, whose relatives have died from taking such actions, is impossible
Suleyman, just to tell you, no offense, i have already seized power. People are just getting positions under our government. As far as new members go:
SULEYMAN -- <<>>
HARY MARY -- PLEASE INORM ME OF WHAT POSITION YOU ARE APPLYING FOR.
MEMBERS:
ULTRA RUSSIAN NATIONALIST: PRESIDENT OF COALITION
DIMITRI: DIRECTOR OF FSB/FIELD AGENT 007
IGOR: MINISTER OF DEFENSE
BILLJ: PUBLIC RELATIONS AMBASSADOR
I vote for Sulymen.He seems like a decent fellow.
Igor, if the story about that "prison" is true don't you think it takes away any high moral ground the Russians claim to have in saying they are fighting "terrorism". I mean come on so "these people had to know what was going on and did nothing?" So your logic is that if a guy in your town kidnapped someone and the town didn't do anything about it then its ok for an army to come into the town, level it. Then take all the men to a camp to be tortured even if they were not involved. Plus even if they knew what was happening "the Kidnappings" what were they going to do about it go to the local police. The Russians didn't have control of the area. I doubt most Russians would support what is going on in such camps if true. But if they did maybe Reagan was right with the "evil empire" stuff.
What a Hell!
A e-strike is harder than a hunger strike!
I'm back with that:
All American ( - 194.170.2.7) on Wednesday, February 9, 2000 - 11:05 am:
Perfect example of Rooskies living in LALA LAND
"tbl xotiesh tralalala ...a tbl tolko lala..."
Some of those towns supported bandits and if prisoners are from there so be it.I personally would have executed them,but that is me.
MEMBERS:
ULTRA RUSSIAN NATIONALIST: PRESIDENT OF COALITION
DIMITRI: DIRECTOR OF FSB/FIELD AGENT 007
IGOR: MINISTER OF DEFENSE
BILLJ:PUBLIC RELATIONS AMBASSADOR
SULEYMAN: TOP ANALIST OF FSB
IGOR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, BEING MINISTER OF DEFENSE AND ALL, YOU CAN EXECUTE THEM AS YOU PLEASE.
Igor, to my knowledge Vacum bombs are not baned. I think the US usaed them in vietnam. I know they did use a simular bomb that was the size of a truck and droped out the back of a C-130. It bascally cleard a big area of forest for chopper landings. I have seen video of the testing of a vacum bomb. It is a very effective ,terrorfying weapon it looked like it explodes above the ground and just vaporizes everything in below it . It sort of resembled the looks of a small nuke explosion. It litterly sucks the oxygen out of an area so if the bast doesn't kill the lack of air does.