By Armenian+ ( - 158.252.242.126) on Thursday, January 20, 2000 - 02:52 am:

abd,
Drop it again! That was not enough!

I WILL TEACH YOU THE TRUTH FOR FREE OK.

ONE THING I NEED FROM YOU THAT IS RIght mind.

2,

ara, bud' bditelen, etot kozel hochet tebya iznasilovat' 😉

>>> Drop it again! That was not enough! >>>>>

For Pauline christians, please read so you will unerstand the teaching of Jesus (pbuh) and your life will be better.

Igor my son and your steps brothers time for you to come back the right way.

Paul, a man who according to his own admission "beyond measure" severely persecuted countless Christians "slaughtered" them, and also "wasted" the church (Galatians 1:13-15, Acts 8:1-3, Acts 9:1-2, Acts 9:41, Acts 6:5.. etc.), a man who never met Jesus face to face, underwent a miraculous conversion from a persecutor and killer of Christians into a more perfect teacher of Christianity than the apostles themselves. He was singled out by Jesus' ghost to receive "visions" which were denied the apostles who had accompanied Jesus (pbuh) during his lifetime (Galatians 1:10-12). Paul had acquired such a terrible reputation as a persecutor of Christians that no one was willing to accept his claims of conversion. It was only the intervention of the apostle Barnabas, who's words obviously carried a great deal of weight with the rest of the apostles, which allowed the apostles to grudgingly accept him. Barnabas then traveled extensively with Paul building up his reputation among the Jews as a true convert. Once Paul acquired a reputation of his own, he had a falling out with Barnabas (Acts 15:39, Galatians 2:13). They parted company. Paul now claimed that Jesus (pbuh) wanted him to "relax" the law in order to make it a little more palatable for new converts, and this is when Paul began to make drastic changes to the law of Jesus (pbuh).


Paul decided that his visions were sufficient authority to contradict the teachings of the apostles and consider them hypocrites. Even Barnabas, the apostle who traveled with Paul teaching him and preaching to the Jews, who was willing to accept this persecutor of Christians claims of conversion at face value, and the man who single handedly convinced all of the apostles to accept this same persecutor of Christians is now considered by Paul a hypocrite and less able to understand the religion of Jesus (pbuh) than himself. Paul also believed that


"...I labored more abundantly than they (the apostles) all"

1 Corinthians 15:10.


So, the apostles of Jesus were such lazy layabouts that Paul was doing more work than all eleven of them put together. All of this even though the apostles spent countless years with Jesus (pbuh) learning directly from him while Paul, who has never met Jesus in person, practically overnight transforms from a persecutor and killer of Christians and the apostles to a more perfect teacher of Christianity than the apostles themselves. It is quite lucky for us that Paul received these "visions," otherwise we might have been lead astray by the lazy, misguided, hypocritical apostles. For Barnabas' version of these matters, read "The Gospel of Barnabas."


Let us time out for a quick analyses of the above verses:

1.Jesus (pbuh), during his lifetime on earth, commands mankind to strictly and uncompromisingly observe the religion of Moses till the end of time (Matthew 5:18). He tells them that observing the religion of Moses and selling their belongings shall make them "prefect." (Luke 18:18-22). 2.After the departure of Jesus, Paul, according to his own admission "beyond measure" severely persecuted countless Christians, strove to "slaughter" them, and also "wasted" the church (Galatians 1:13-15, Acts 8:1-3, Acts 9:1-2, Acts 9:41, Acts 6:5, Acts 22:4,.. etc.). Paul also looked on with satisfaction as the apostle Stephen was stoned to death (Acts 22:20). 3.Paul receives "visions" and is saved (Acts 22:9, Acts 9:7...etc.) 4.Paul is not sure exactly what he saw in his visions. His visions also contained "unspeakable words that it is unlawful to utter." (2 Corinthians 12:1-5) 5.Paul tells us that the person in his visions was Jesus (pbuh). He declares that he received his teachings of "Christianity" from these visions and from no one else, not even the apostles (Galatians 1:12). In other words, he has no need of learning from the apostles. His visions are higher in authority than anything they might have to say. He then goes on to show everyone how the apostles of Jesus are constantly in need of his guidance to recognize the truth (e.g. Galatians 2:11-13) 6.Paul claims that all things are made lawful to him and he shall not follow anyone (1 Corinthians 6:12). He also claims that he shall do whatever it takes to get people to follow him, no matter what that might entail (1 Corinthians 9:20-22). 7.The apostles differ with Paul regarding the "truth" of the circumcision ordained by God and other matters.(1 Corinthians 7:19, Galatians 2:7...etc.). 8.The apostles, according to Paul, did not walk "uprightly" according to the "truth of the Gospel" and were lazy, misguided, hypocrites (1 Corinthians 15:10, Galatians 2:14, Galatians 2:13). 9.Most of the books of the New Testament are written by Paul himself. In them, Paul himself gives an unblushing pronouncement of how he was a vastly superior apostle of Jesus (pbuh) than the apostles who accompanied Jesus (pbuh) during his ministry and they all needed his guidance to see the "truth" of Jesus' message and how Jesus (pbuh) and the apostles eagerly appointed him the twelfth apostle.

abd:
more and more mujahideen are getting killed. in this war, i'm for mujahideen, even thou i'm not muslim. i would favor russia, but as we can see, it is not doing any progress. no major victory, mostly defeats. that's why i favor mujaheed. they are better fighters than special russian forces. but the tie of the conflict is about to turn. rebels can't hold grozny forever. and russians are not going to leave either. your mujaheed better leave if they don't want to be annihilated. why don't they move now then attack russians. everybody knows, that partizan war will continue no matter what. but i also understand the importance of the grozny for both sides.

Is paul was a prophet?

Paul tells us in the books of the Bible that he is a prophet, then he can be only one of two kinds of prophet; either a true prophet or a false prophet. Thus, we must take Paul to trial and have the court decide for us what sort of prophet he is.


Due to the magnitude of that which is at stake in this trial, it would be highly unjust to allow personal prejudices to cloud the outcome of the proceedings. For this reason, justice demands that the judge be one who's integrity and truthfulness can be readily and unhesitantly accepted by all. For this reason, our judge and jury in this matter shall consist of only two individuals: God Almighty and Jesus Christ. Further, only one single exhibit shall be brought into evidence, namely, the Bible. Let us then clear our minds and hearts of all prejudices and let only God and Jesus tell us what to accept and what to reject. Are we agreed? Then let us begin.


Let us start the proceedings with the words of God. He says:


"When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that [is] the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, [but] the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him."

Deuteronomy 18:22


Now let us move on and obtain the witness of Jesus (pbuh):


"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

Matthew 24:24


Jesus (pbuh) continues …


"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Matthew 7:15-23


Now that the base criteria have been laid out by God and then His elect messenger Jesus Christ (pbuh), let us now bring into evidence the words of Paul in the Bible and allow them to speak for themselves. In order to do this we shall break up the criteria set forth by God and Jesus above into seven points. They are:


1.A false prophet's prophesies do not come true. 2.False Christs and false prophets can show great signs and wonders that can deceive the very elect. 3.False prophets bring forth evil fruits. 4.A false prophet would claim that it is enough to say to Jesus Lord to be righteous. 5.A false prophet would prophesy in Jesus' name. 6.A false prophet can cast out devils and do wonderful works. 7.A false prophet would be turned away and cursed by Jesus.


Regarding the first criteria, we bring into evidence the words of Paul in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 regarding his prophesy of the second coming of Jesus. Paul says:


"For the Lord (Jesus) himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words."

1 Thessalonians 4:15-16


Paul in this prophesy was in effect telling his followers that Jesus would be descending from heaven any second now. Paul and his followers would then be taken up into the air and meet Jesus in the clouds. He was telling them that this shall happen while they are still alive and breathing. Did this come to pass? No! It was a false prophesy. Two thousand years have passed since and not only has he and those he was speaking to turned to dust, but countless generations of their followers too have passed away and we still await his prophesy to come true.

Slovak,
>> i would favor russia, but as we can see, it is not doing any progress. no major victory,
mostly defeats. that's why i favor mujaheed.

Typical traitor talk. 🙂

SLOVAK 88 ( - 63.26.125.8) on Thursday, January 20, 2000 - 03:35 am:

abd:
more and more mujahideen are getting killed. in this war, i'm for mujahideen, even thou i'm not muslim.

Thank you for your honest comment.
The victory come from only GOD the Creator. One Mujahideen will die 100 will replace for him.
If a slave donot fight to free form slavery he deaserved to be double slavery. In Islam we do not want to be any bodies slave except the Creator only. You should learn Islam From authentic sources.

abd

2 abd,

the more you paste your muslim crap, the clownish you look like... please be efficient, and provide links if the size is too large.

y Armenian+ ( - 158.252.220.92) on Thursday, January 20, 2000 - 03:43 am:

Tell me why mighty russian chickens aka eagels lost their butt in Afghnistan.

Soon the Chechnian will kick all the russians and the traitors like uzbec, tazakistan, Daza...
and also your BUtt too.

2 abd,

>>> You should learn Islam From authentic sources.

islam from your sources is not nice-looking, to say the least... judging from your huge messages, i would better remain agnostic, and play my own tune.

balalaika ( - 210.138.34.100) on Thursday, January 20, 2000 - 03:46 am:

Try to teach the heathen brain wash sub humans

y balalaika ( - 210.138.34.100) on Thursday, January 20, 2000 - 03:50 am:

Are like Igor?
Orthadoz Christians or Atheist.

Islam is not for any race or nations. It is for every one. For your own knowledge learn about it, I am not asking you to be Muslim.

2 abd,

here is one genuine link about the SHEER DELIGHT of Islam (you will not be upset!):

http://205.238.206.165/sheerdelight/

Federal russian grass hopers flew some 180 sorties in the preceding 24 hours, the military news agency AVN said quoting Russian military headquarters.

In the last 24 hours we have lost 20 men and 25 wounded," Abdulmuslimov said, one of the highest daily tolls yet admitted by the rebels. He claimed some 300 Russians had been killed in the fighting.

Russians dead chickens are going home to rott