"By Turk:...knowing that in Russia alcoholism (consumption of extreme amounts of vodka) is one of the main reasons in the reduction of life expectency of males..."

I doubt it very much. Our good Irishmen are probably world champions in the "consumption of extreme amounts" and their life expectancy is not going anywhere.

Armenian:( - 158.252.221.183)

u are very funny and poor bastard. you are so ashamed of your name and nationality (armenian) that u are using abdullah's name. can you, for the sake of the intelligent people on this board , grow up you little FART!!!
i know it hurts badly to be armenian, but dear u have to live with it, it is the curse of god on you...

Fresh news from the fronlines:

aturday 22 January 2000: Today is the Day of Bloodshed

Bloody Battles Rage on the Outskirts of Grozny:

Russian Forces continue their intensive push on the outskirts of the capital in the regions of Baryakurdani, Kanbirni-Zafut, Zaftaskoi and Majurina, in a desperate attempt to open the entrance into the capital Grozny. Thousands of Russian soldiers accompanied with military vehicles made an intensive advance in the region of Majurina today.

The daring soldiers of Allah repelled them and a fierce battle broke out, where the Mujahideen distinguished themselves in battle by inflicting serious losses in lives and equipment upon these oppressive Russian Forces. As a result: 700 confirmed Russian Dead, 24 Destroyed Vehicles and the Mujahideen captured much war booty - Indeed by the Grace and Success Granted by Allah the Most High.

We refute the bellows of the World Mass-Media, who are spreading the news that nothing remains of fighting in positions of Russian Forces residing in the entrance of the capital Grozny, and that fighting has concentrated within the streets of Grozny itself.
We correct these news by stating that the Mujahideen exercise full control over the capital Grozny.

NEWS:

aturday 22 January 2000: Continuous Battle is Raging Around Grozny

The Mujahideen are gaining on some regions around the capital Grozny, after fierce battles remain to continue up until today.

Results so far: 400 Russian Dead, 17 Russian Army vehicles destroyed (Including 2 tanks) and a Russian Airplane shot down.

Guys:

do we see the same pattern for 94-96 war??? Where the russians lost 5000 men in grozny assault??? i thought they planned to avoid last war mistakes, but they are doing the same thing right now. russian army is so dumb, they NEVER learn and that what will destroy them...
NEVR anger a chechen!!!!!
bosna said it...
armenians shut up, you read it here: you are next.
who is going to help you when russian is getting fvcked up????? may be ukrain headed by dimitri???? hahahahahaha

"By bosna:...i know it hurts badly to be armenian... "

You probably only one who knows it.

Walex,

"However, they found several categories in which deaths increased dramatically.

The first of these was death from alcohol-related causes."

See the following link on the subject.
http://www.medicineuptotheminute.com/russia.htm

This article seems to agree with what I said, which was alcohol consumption was one of the reasons behind reduction in life expectancy of Russian males. I agree that, if public health system is in top shape (as in Ireland perhaps), deaths from alcohol consumtion need not be severe. But I guess combined with a drop in living standards, an increase in alcohol consumption was one of the factors for the unfortunate reduction in the life expectancy in Russia.

To ®.

"Ultra Russian Nationalist ( - 152.174.74.73) on Saturday, January 22, 2000 - 04:24 am:
Chechens Caught in Cross Fire By Andrew Kramer

What's the URL of that article?"

Whats the difference that it makes? You will see exact information that i posted here.

"Turk: See the following link on the subject.
http://www.medicineuptotheminute.com/russia.htm "

Well, I stand corrected. It seems, however, that for some reasons they just stop to drink heavily as soon as they arrive here.

"""The militants built the execution wall, where two men were publicly killed by the Wahhabis shortly before the Russians captured the city late last year. Residents said one victim was accused of raping and killing a woman and the other was a drug dealer.

Most people resented the public executions and the Islamic law the militants tried to impose. Some residents celebrated the rebels' exodus by drinking alcohol - forbidden under Islamic law - in a half-constructed mosque abandoned by the Wahhabis.

``This mosque must be destroyed so that no trace of Wahhabism is left,'' said Salavat Tebertayev, the newly appointed mayor.

Several residents interrupted him, suggesting the structure be turned into a restaurant or a strip club."""

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Who was saying that Chechens were islamic fundamentalists???

Folks, I am an "evil" American watching this Chechen tradegy with interest and sadness. One of the good writers on this board, L'menexe, said it very well. With as many bad points as there is to "Amerika", any one of you may freely come over here and live, educate yourself, speak your mind freely, come and go as you like, etc. This is a country of immigrants from all over the world, Christian, Muslim, etc. Amerika works! I know that we have not bode well for lots of countries for lots of reasons. I also know that the reason we do not stand up to a Russia, or a China is these countries will nuke us if pressed. We don't want that any more than you do. The shame in Chechnya is, Russia will have to destroy every last Chechen man, woman and child, genocide, because if they don't, no Russian citizen will be safe in their homes, ever. The Chechans will fight/revenge until the last man/woman/child. This is reminiscent of the birth of Amerika, disorganized European settlers against a vastly overwhelming English army....see what happened?

"""In the end of the 19th century, Tsar Nicholas II was influenced by the Pan-Slavists that propagated for the powerful and culturally unified Russia. For them Western influences were the root of all evil and autonomous parts of the Russia were dangerously full of them. These had to be 'conquered again' culturally.

In the two periods of russification, 1899 - 1905 and 1908 - 17, special rights of Finland were abolished. Yet attempts to russify Finland failed due to internal problems of Russia."""

"""When the Russian Empire collapsed and Lenin seized power Finnish parliament declared Finland an independent state (December 6, 1917). Finland turned to Western countries for recognition but they were reluctant to recognise Finland before the Soviet-Russia."""

A lot of similarity to Chechnyan history, don't you think?

Russians threaten to incarcerate 'dissident'
Police revive Soviet tactics against critics with bid to take journalist to remote psychiatric hospital By Patrick Cockburn in Moscow

21 January 2000

Russian police are threatening, for the first time since the fall of the Soviet Union, to take journalists who report on official corruption to distant psychiatric hospitals.

This week police raided the flat of Alexander Khinshtein, a journalist and broadcaster living in Moscow, armed with a warrant saying he must accompany them to a psychiatric clinic in Vladimir, a city four hours' drive from the capital.

The attempt to detain Mr Khinshtein failed when his lawyer arrived at the last moment with film crews alerted by the Moscow television station where the journalist presents a programme called Secret Materials.

In the Soviet Union the security forces frequently locked up dissidents in psychiatric hospitals to blacken their reputation. The practice stopped after the fall of communism.

During this week's raid the Interior Ministry official leading it would not at first give Mr Khinshtein, who was ill in bed, time to phone his lawyer, saying it was a long drive to Vladimir, his mother, Inna Regerer, said yesterday.

She believes the reason for the action was Mr Khinshtein's attacks in the daily Moskovsky Komsomolets on Vladimir Rushailo, the Interior Minister, for acting illegally, and on the financier Boris Berezovsky for his alleged links to criminals and Chechen warlords.

Mr Khinshtein, 25, one of Moscow's best-known journalists, stood for the Duma in last month's elections.

Vladimir Martynov, the Interior Ministry spokesman, said in a statement to The Independent that investigatorshad decided "to give Mr Khinshtein a psychiatric examination" because he
had been previously treated in special clinics and disqualified from military service. His mother says he was disqualified for a spinal injury.

da ya vsex v zjopu viby ybludki (krome diman. igor, caucasian, georgian)
vi blea ybludki y bas eshe sosat' bydite.
a ti slovak, ya tvoyu mamy evbal yzje raz 10, xyili toly ebat' stayu shluxy, nado bydet u teba viebem, ne somnevaise v etom Slovak. ti zje znaesh mi tvou ncaeu ebali mnogo raz, eshe odin raz ne povredit, shtob ti syka znal kto tvou xazaevi.a to kommynist ebanei past' zakroi, pytin predyshit tvou paretu kommynesticheskyu, on sam znaet shto za nevo ne kto ne progalasyet esli on s kommynistami bydet...tak shto loz shyshi vesla.

ebal vas vsex v rot vasha lubimae Svoloch

Fighter

You know that you will suck dome Russian ••••, get used to it, Ybludok.