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Russians in Chechnya 'murdering and raping'

By Marcus Warren in Moscow
Electronic Telegraph
Saturday 22 January 2000

RUSSIAN soldiers in Chechnya were accused yesterday of raping local women and killing at least one of their victims.

Chechen refugees told a human rights organisation they had spoken to rape victims in Russian-controlled Chechnya. Other refugees said they had been forced to hide their daughters from drunken soldiers. The true scale of the violence against the women of Chechnya may be hidden by the local taboo on sexual assault, a report by Human Rights Watch said.



One 23-year-old pregnant woman was raped and murdered in Shali last month, a neighbour told Human Rights Watch. When local people prepared her body for burial they found it scarred by bruises and toothmarks.

According to Human Rights Watch researchers, several women, aged from 20 to their 50s, had been raped by soldiers in Alkhan Yurt, scene of an alleged massacre after troops took the village at the beginning of December.

One woman from Alkhan Yurt disclosed that she and a neighbour hid their five daughters in a pit covered with earth and with a pipe to supply air for several days to protect them from soldiers hunting for young girls.

Paramilitaries in the Balkans in the Nineties raped systematically to terrorise civilians, but there is no evidence that Russian soldiers' attacks on Chechen women are part of such a campaign. Indiscipline is acute in the Russian army and violence against the local population is often colluded in by officers unable or unwilling to rein in their men.

Some civilian officials have even justified the looting of bed linen, mattresses and rugs on the grounds that soldiers have not been supplied with proper bedding.

2 l'menexe,

>>> i think you said it's evening where you are, more or less.

sono toori da!

>>> axually, i'd've been more correct to say "ohaya, k-san" as it was still morning here when i posted.

"ohaya" n janakute, "ohayo" no hou ga ii yo.

p.s. nande "k-san" tte yobu no?

o-yasuuuu-mi...

The subhuman russian are only good for my pits meal, nothing else.

These animasl live and die with alcohol.

No one knows who is their Father like IGORE and Gangs.

2 abd,

>>> 2,000 Russians died in past five days

>>> KABUL, Jan 21: A senior Chechen commander visiting Afghanistan said on Friday the that the guerillas had killed 2,000 Russian soldiers and destroyed 70 tanks in just the past five days.


such kind of stupid propaganda only shows the lack of intelligence. i bet nobody else here but "abdullas" are believing such extreme lies of yandarbiev. why quaran does not make you feel ashamed about these provocative statements?!!

it is a pity that you continue to be the primary clown here, abd!!!

By balalaika ( - 210.138.34.100) on Sunday, January 23, 2000 - 02:27 pm:


Russia is doing so badly in the information war in Chechnya. No setback is ever admitted, however strong the evidence to the contrary. A Russian general speaks of 7,000 Chechen fighters killed – yet even a pro-Moscow Chechen politician says the real figure is 200. Official spokesmen lose credibility by the month.

None of this was a surprise to General Vladimir Kosarev, a dapper middle-aged officer who last year set up the Military News Agency (known by its Russian initials as AVN) just before the start of the latest Chechen war. He had resigned from the army in frustration at its refusal to tell the truth.
The army announced the capture of villages and towns as soon as local Chechen leaders agreed to run up the Russian flag, but never really controlled them.
The Committee of Soldiers' Mothers says it estimates that 3,000 soldiers have been killed and 6,000 injured in the current campaign.

Igor
Don't tell ABD about sex he will post in frenzy pages and pages about that and religion.

last news:
"Kusama Maskhadov told Reuters at an anti-war rally in a refugee camp in nearby Ingushetia..."

I hope this anti-war rally was for the surender or the retreat of mujahedeens from Chechenya.
Because if it's for the withdraw of rusian army, she is wrong, war will goes on and on for ever as islamists claims.

Mohammad was not a Prophet but a poor plagurist.

In Sura 7:155-157 we find a prayer by Moses and then Allah's response to him (Yusuf Ali's translation):


[7:155] And Moses chose seventy of his people for Our place of
meeting: when they were seized with violent quaking, he prayed:
"O my Lord! if it had been Thy will Thou couldst have destroyed,
long before, both them and me: wouldst Thou destroy us for the
deeds of the foolish ones among us? this is no more than Thy
trial: by it Thou causest whom Thou wilt to stray, and Thou
leadest whom Thou wilt into the right path. Thou art our
Protector: so forgive us and give us Thy mercy; for Thou art
the best of those who forgive.
[7:156] And ordain for us that which is good, in this life and
in the Hereafter: for we have turned unto Thee."
He said: "With My punishment I visit whom I will; but My mercy
extendeth to all things. That (mercy) I shall ordain for
those who do right, and practise regular charity, and
those who believe in Our signs;-
[7.157] those who follow the messenger, the unlettered Prophet,
whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law
and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids
them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and
pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure);
He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes
that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour
him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,-
it is they who will prosper."

[7.158] Say: "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of
Allah, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth:
there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death.
So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the Unlettered Prophet, who
believeth in Allah and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be
guided."
The structure of the text is clear. 155-156a is Moses praying to Allah for mercy and forgiveness. Then, in 156b (second part of verse 156) Allah's response to Moses begins and it continues through to the end of 157. Allah gives criteria for the people whom he will be merciful with, introducing each criterion with "those, who ..." (1) do right, (2) believe, (3) follow the messenger.

Then in 158 a new discourse begins. In Yusuf Ali's Qur'an, it is set apart even more strongely by giving it the header "[Section 20]". In verse 158 then the text continues with Allah's command to Muhammad to recite (to his own people) that he is this messenger, the unlettered prophet that was mentioned to Moses in verse 157. As such, 157 is the preparation of 158, the authentication for Muhammad that he is indeed a/the true prophet from God because he has already been foretold in the Torah and the Gospel.

Isn't that powerful proof for the prophethood of Muhammad?

I would be part of positive evidence if it were true. But there are two major problems with this claim.

Many verses in the Qur'an make clear that the Gospel is given to Jesus - but Jesus was born over a thousand years [about 1400] after Moses. For Allah to speak to Moses and say that the people can find the unlettered prophet mentioned in the Gospel is a strong anachronism since the Gospel is not available to Moses and will not be available for another 1400 years.


those who follow the messenger, the unlettered Prophet,
whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),-
in the Law and the Gospel;- ... "
This is one of several time compressions which are found in the Qur'an, i.e. stories involving several persons (or items) who in historical reality are separated by hundreds of years.

The obvious problem is that since the Gospel has not yet been revealed at Moses' time, nobody was able to find anything in this nonexisting gospel. Muhammad was indeed unlettered, i.e. not well educated in the earlier scriptures, and this is a quite obvious blunder which is hard to reconcile with divine authorship, let alone with the direct speech of God in response to Moses.

A second problem surfaces when we focus on the phrase "the unlettered prophet". Nowhere in the Torah or the Gospel is there any mentioning of an unlettered prophet.

There are prophecies about future prophets, particularly about "the prophet like Moses", but the Qur'an gives one and only one distinctive characteristic by which we may recognize which prophecy is meant and this characteristic is that the prophet is refered to as unlettered. But that is a false statement since nowhere in the Torah or the Gospel is a (future or any) prophet called "unlettered".

If that which is given as evidence of authenticity for Muhammad's prophethood turns out to be false, what then is the conclusion we have to draw from that?

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Even though there starts a new discourse in 7:158 I have included it above since I heard from one Muslim, responding to the problem by claiming: Since the verses 157 & 158 both contain the word "ummi" (unlettered) and the present tense in the word "follow", this shows that 7:157 is really directed to Muhammad just like verse 158. But this obviously tortures the structure of the text beyond reasonableness on grammatical grounds as well as destroying the very argument 157 tries to present namely that the earlier prophet Moses already knew about this unlettered prophet to come.

It remains, Muhammad is his own and his only witness. He claims to be a prophet and for authentication he points to the words he himself speaks. Whether they are made to look like coming from Allah, or not, they are the words coming to us from Muhammad and there is no outside confirmation of his prophethood. Even if there were prophecies about an unlettered prophet in Torah and Gospel, any person (not educated in the Biblical scriptures) could claim them as refering to himself. On which basis should we accept such a claim?

But as it is, there are no such prophecies and therefore this claim put into the mouth of Allah by Muhammad is the undoing of his claim to prophethood.

By wasp ( - 205.243.166.83) on Sunday, January 23, 2000 - 02:53 pm:
God sacrificed his own son in place of humans who needed to be punished for their own sins might make some Christians love Jesus, but is an obcene picture of God. It is almost heavenly child abuse, and may infect out imagination at more earthly levels as well. I do not want to express my faith through a theology that pictures God demanding blood sacrifices in order to be reconciled to us."

By wasp ( - 205.243.166.83) on Sunday, January 23, 2000 - 02:53 pm


Say: 'If all mankind and the jinn would come together to produce the like of this Qur’aan, they could not produce its like even though they exerted all and their strength in aiding one another.’" [Soorah al-Israa’ (17):88]

By wasp ( - 205.243.166.83) on Sunday, January 23, 2000 - 02:53 pm


Ye shall not add unto the word which I (God) command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from
it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."
Deuteronomy 4:2


PAUL SAID, "God is not the author of confusion," (I Corinthians 14:33), yet never has a book produced more confusion than
the bible! There are hundreds of denominations and sects, all using the "inspired Scriptures" to prove their conflicting doctrines.

Why do trained theologians differ? Why do educated translators disagree over Greek and Hebrew meanings? Why all the
confusion? Shouldn't a document that was "divinely inspired" by an omniscient and omnipotent deity be as clear as possible?
"If the trumpet give an uncertain sound," Paul wrote in I Corinthians 14:8, "who shall prepare himself to the battle? So likewise
ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into
the air." Exactly! Paul should have practiced what he preached. For almost two millennia, the bible has been producing a most
"uncertain sound."
The problem is not with human limitations, as some claim. The problem is the bible itself. People who are free of theological bias
notice that the bible contains hundreds of discrepancies. Should it surprise us when such a literary and moral mish-mash, taken
seriously, causes so much discord? Here is a brief sampling of biblical contradictions.

1) Contradictions appear in even the opening two chapters of the Bible, where inconsistent accounts of the creation of the world are set forth. * For example, Genesis chapter 1 tells us that the first man and the first woman were made at the same time, and after the animals. However, Genesis chapter 2 states that the order of creation was as follows: man, then the animals, and then woman.

2) In addition, Genesis chapter 1 sets forth six days of creation, but chapter 2 speaks of the "day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens." Genesis chapter 1 states that the fruit trees were created before man, but chapter 2 indicates that the fruit trees were created after man. Genesis 1:20 says that the fowl were created out of the waters, but Genesis 2:19 states that the fowl were created out of the ground.

3) Also, Genesis 1:2-3 asserts that God created light and divided it from darkness on the first day, but Genesis 1:14-19 says that the sun, moon, and stars were not made until the fourth day.

4) Contradictions also abound in the biblical account of a worldwide flood. Genesis 6:19-22 says that God ordered Noah to bring "of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort...into the ark." However, Genesis 7:2-3 states that the Lord ordered Noah to bring into the ark the clean beasts and the birds by sevens, and the unclean beasts by twos.

5) Genesis 7:17 says that the flood lasted forty days, but Genesis 8:3 tells us that it lasted one hundred and fifty days. Genesis 8:4 states that, as the waters of the flood receded, Noah's ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat in the seventh month, but the very next verse asserts that the tops of the mountains could not even be seen until the tenth month. Genesis 8:13 states that the earth was dry on the first day of the first month, but Genesis 8:14 reports that the earth was not dry until the twenty-seventh day of the second month.

5) The Old Testament also contains a significant contradiction in the story of the census taken by King David and God's
subsequent punishment of the Israelites. According to the story, God was so angered by the census that he sent a plague that killed seventy thousand men. II Samuel 24:1 says that the Lord caused David to take the census, but I Chronicles 21:1 tells us that David was incited by Satan to take the census.

6) In addition, there is a contradiction regarding the question of whether God punishes children for the sins of their parents. At
Ezekiel 18:20, the Lord states: "The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father...." However, at Exodus 20:5, God says: "...I the
Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them
that hate me."

7) Moreover, the Old Testament is contradictory as to whether the Lord commanded the Israelites to sacrifice animals to him. At Jeremiah 7:22, God says that he did not give the Israelites any commands about animal sacrifices. In contrast, at Exodus 29:38-42 and many other places in the Pentateuch, God is clearly depicted as requiring the Israelites to offer animal sacrifices.

8) Turning to the New Testament, there are contradictions between the genealogy of Jesus as set forth in the first chapter of
Matthew and the genealogy given in the third chapter of Luke. Both genealogies list Jesus' father as being Joseph (which is
curious, given that Mary was supposedly impregnated by the Holy Ghost), but Matthew states that the name of Joseph's father
was Jacob, while Luke says that his name was Heli. Also, Matthew tells us that there were twenty-six generations between Jesus and King David, but Luke reports that the number of such generations was forty-one. In addition, Matthew alleges that Jesus' line of descent was through David's son Solomon, but Luke asserts that it was through David's son Nathan.

9) In the story of the birth of Jesus, Matthew 2:13-15 says that Joseph and Mary fled to Egypt with the baby Jesus immediately
after the wise men from the east had brought their gifts. However, Luke 2:22-40 indicates that, after the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary remained in Bethlehem for the time of Mary's purification (which was forty days, under the Mosaic law), then brought Jesus to Jerusalem "to present him to the Lord," and then returned to their home in Nazareth. Luke makes no mention of a journey into Egypt or a visit by wise men from the east.

10) As to the death of the disciple Judas, Matthew 27:5 states that Judas took the money that he had obtained by betraying Jesus, threw it down in the temple, and then "went and hanged himself." However, Acts 1:18 reports that Judas used the money to purchase a field and "falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."

11) In describing Jesus being led to his execution, John 19:17 states that Jesus carried his own cross. In contrast, Mark 15:21-23 says that a man called Simon carried Jesus' cross to the crucifixion site.

12) Regarding the crucifixion itself, Matthew 27:44 tells us that Jesus was taunted by both of the criminals who were being
crucified with him. However, Luke 23:39-43 states that only one of the criminals taunted Jesus, that the other criminal rebuked the one who was doing the taunting, and that Jesus told the criminal who was defending him: "Today shalt thou be with me in
paradise."

13) As to the last words of Jesus while on the cross, Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34 assert that Jesus cried with a loud voice: "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Luke 23:46 says that Jesus' final words were: "Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit." John 19:30 tells us that the last statement of the dying Jesus was: "It is finished."

14) There are even contradictions in the accounts of the resurrection -- the alleged event which is the very basis of the Christian
religion. Mark 16:2 says that on the day of the resurrection certain women arrived at the tomb at the rising of the sun, but John 20:1 states that they arrived when it was yet dark. Luke 24:2 tells us that the tomb was open when the women arrived, but Matthew 28:1-2 indicates that it was closed. Mark 16:5 states that the women saw a young man at the tomb, Luke 24:4 says that they saw two men, Matthew 28:2 alleges that they saw an angel, and John 20:11-12 insists that they saw two angels.

15) Also in the resurrection accounts, there are contradictions as to who the women were that came to the tomb, whether the men or angels that the women saw were inside or outside the tomb, whether the men or angels were standing or sitting, and whether Mary Magdalene recognized the risen Jesus when he first appeared to her.

16) As a final example of a contradiction contained in the New Testament, the conflicting accounts of the conversion of Paul can
be cited. Acts 9:7 says that when Jesus called Paul to preach the gospel, the men who were with Paul heard a voice but saw no
man. However, Acts 22:9 asserts that when Paul received his calling, the men who were with him saw a light but did not hear the voice that spoke to Paul.

By wasp ( - 205.243.166.83) on Sunday, January 23, 2000 - 02:53 pm


CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE


Contradiction #1
Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
(a) God did (2 Samuel 24:1)
(b) Satan did (1 Chronicles 21:1).
Contradiction #2
In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
(a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9).
(b) One million, one hundred thousand (1 Chronicles 21:5).

Contradiction #3
How many fighting men were found in Judah?
(a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9).
(b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (1 Chronicles 21:5).

Contradiction #4
God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
(a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13).
(b) Three (1 Chronicles 21:12).

Contradiction #5
How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
(a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26).
(b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2).

Contradiction #6
How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
(a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8).
(b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9).

Contradiction #7
How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
(a) Three months (2 Kings 24:8).
(b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9).

Contradiction #8
The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear
and killed how many men at one time?
(a) Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8).
(b) Three hundred (1 Chronicles 11:11).

Contradiction #9
When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem?
Before defeating the Philistines or after?
(a) After (2 Samuel 5 and 6).
(b) Before (1 Chronicles 13 and 14).

Contradiction #10
How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into
the Ark?
(a) Two (Genesis 6:19, 20).
(b) Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction
only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8, 9).
Contradiction #11
When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did
he capture?
(a) One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4).
(b) Seven thousand (1 Chronicles 18:4).

Contradiction #12
How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
(a) Forty thousand (1 Kings 4:26).
(b) Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25).

Contradiction #13
In what year of King Asa’s reign did Baasha, King of Israel
die?
(a) Twenty-sixth year (1 Kings 15:33 - 16:8).
(b) Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1).

Contradiction #14
How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of
building the temple?
(a) Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
(b) Three thousand three hundred (1 Kings 5:16).

Contradiction #15
Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?
(a) Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26).
(b) Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5).

Contradiction #16
Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian
captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab?
(a) Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6).
(b) Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11).

Contradiction #17
How many were the children of Zattu?
(a) Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:8)
(b) Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13).

Contradiction #18
How many were the children of Azgad?
(a) One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12).
(b) Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17).

Contradiction #19
How many were the children of Adin?
(a) Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15).
(b) Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20).

Contradiction #20
How many were the children of Hashum?
(a) Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19).
(b) Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22).

Contradiction #21
How many were the children of Bethel and Ai?
(a) Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28).
(b) One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32).

Contradiction #22
Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole
assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close.
The totals obtained from each book is as follows:
(a) 29,818 (Ezra).
(b) 31, 089 (Nehemiah).

Contradiction #23
How many singers accompanied the assembly?
(a) Two hundred (Ezra 2:65).
(b) Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67).

Contradiction #24
What was the name of King Abijah’s mother?
(a) Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2).
(b) Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20).
But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar
(2 Samuel 14:27).

Contradiction #25
Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?
(a) Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40).
(b) No (Joshua 15:63).

Contradiction #26
Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?
(a) Jacob (Matthew 1:16).
(b) Heli (Luke 3:23).

Contradiction #27
Jesus descended from which son of David?
(a) Solomon (Matthew 1:6).
(b) Nathan (Luke 3:31).

Contradiction #28
Who was the father of Shealtiel?
(a) Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12).
(b) Neri (Luke 3:27).

Contradiction #29
Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ?
(a) Abiud (Matthew 1:13).
(b) Rhesa (Luke 3:27).
But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i. Meshullam, ii.
Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v. Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah,
viii. Jushabhesed (1 Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names Abiud and Rhesa
do not fit in anywhere.

Contradiction #30
Who was the father of Uzziah?
(a) Joram (Matthew 1:8).
(b) Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1).

Contradiction #31
Who as the father of Jechoniah?
(a) Josiah (Matthew 1:11).
(b) Jehoiakim (1 Chronicles 3:16).

Contradiction #32
How many generations were there from the Babylonian exile until
Christ?
(a) Matthew says fourteen (Matthew 1:17).
(b) But a careful count of the generations reveals only thirteen
(see Matthew 1:12-16).

Contradiction #33
Who was the father of Shelah?
(a) Cainan (Luke 3:35-36).
(b) Arphaxad (Genesis 11:12).

Contradiction #34
Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come?
(a) Yes (Matthew 11:14, 17:10-13).
(b) No (John 1:19-21).

Contradiction #35
Would Jesus inherit David’s throne?
(a) Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32).
(b) No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim
(see Matthew 1:11, 1 Chronicles 3:16). And Jehoiakim was cursed by
God so that none of his descendants can sit upon David’s throne
(Jeremiah 36:30).

Contradiction #36
Jesus rode into Jerusalem on how many animals?
(a) One - a colt (Mark 11:7; cf. Luke 19:35).
And they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their garments on it;
and he sat upon it."
(b) Two - a colt and an ass (Matthew 21:7).
They brought the ass and the colt and put their garments on them
and he sat thereon."

Contradiction #37
How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ?
(a) By a revelation from heaven (Matthew16:17).
(b) His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41).

Contradiction #38
Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew?
(a) By the sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22).
(b) On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus
decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43).

Contradiction #39
When Jesus met Jairus was Jairus’ daughter already dead?
(a) Yes. Matthew 9:18 quotes him as saying, "My daughter has just died."
(b) No. Mark 5:23 quotes him as saying, "My little daughter is at
the point of death."
Contradiction #40
Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey?
(a) Yes (Mark 6:8).
(b) No (Matthew 10:9; Luke 9:3).

Contradiction #41
Did Herod think that Jesus was John the baptist?
(a) Yes (Matthew 14:2; Mark 6:16).
(b) No (Luke 9:9)

Contradiction #42
Did John the Baptist recognise Jesus before
his baptism?
(a) Yes (Matthew 3:13-14).
(b) No (John 1:32, 33).

Contradiction #43
Did John the Baptist recognise Jesus after his baptism?
(a) Yes (John 1:32, 33).
(b) No (Matthew 11:2).

Contradiction #44
According to the Gospel of John, what did Jesus say about bearing
his own witness?
(a) "If I bear witness to myself, my testimony is not true"(John 5:31).
(b) "Even if I do bear witness to myself, my testimony is true"
(John 8:14).

Contradiction #45
When Jesus entered Jerusalem did he cleanse the temple that same day?
(a) Yes (Matthew 21:12).
(b) No. He went into the temple and looked around, but since it was
very late he did nothing. Instead, he went to Bethany to spend the
night and returned the next morning to cleanse the temple
(Mark 11:1-17).

Contradiction #46
The Gospels say that Jesus cursed a fig
tree. Did the tree wither at once?
(a) Yes. (Matthew 21:19).
(b) No. It withered overnight (Mark 11:20).

Contradiction #47
Did Judas kiss Jesus?
(a) Yes (Matthew 26:48-50).
(b) No. Judas could not get close enough to Jesus to kiss him
(John 18:3-12).

Contradiction #48
What did Jesus say about Peter’s denial?
(a) "The cock will not crow till you have denied me three times"
(John 13:38).
(b) "Before the cock crows twice you will deny me three times"
(Mark 14:30). When the cock crowed once, the three denials were
not yet complete (see Mark 14:72). Therefore prediction (a)
failed.

Contradiction #49
Did Jesus bear his own cross?
(a) Yes (John 19:17).
(b) No (Matthew 27:31-32).

Contradiction #50
Did Jesus die before the curtain of the temple was torn?
(a) Yes (Matthew 27:50-51; Mark 15:37-38).
(b) No. After the curtain was torn, then Jesus crying with a loud
voice, said, "Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit!"
And having said this he breathed his last (Luke 23:45-46).

Contradiction #51
Did Jesus say anything secretly?
(a) No. "I have said nothing secretly" (John 18:20).
(b) Yes. "He did not speak to them without a parable, but privately
to his own disciples he explained everything" (Mark 4:34).
The disciples asked him "Why do you speak to them in parables?"
He said, "To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom
of heaven, but to them it has not been given" (Matthew 13:10-11).

Contradiction #52
Where was Jesus at the sixth hour on the day of the crucifixion?
(a) On the cross (Mark 15:23).
(b) In Pilate’s court (John 19:14).

Contradiction #53
The gospels say that two thieves were crucified along with Jesus.
Did both thieves mock Jesus?
(a) Yes (Mark 15:32).
(b) No. One of them mocked Jesus, the other defended
Jesus (Luke 23:43).


Contradiction #54
Did Jesus ascend to Paradise the same day of the crucifixion?
(a) Yes. He said to the thief who defended him,
"Today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43).
(b) No. He said to Mary Magdelene two days later,
"I have not yet ascended to the Father" (John 20:17).

Contradiction #55
When Paul was on the road to Damascus he saw a light and heard a voice.
Did those who were with him hear the voice?
(a) Yes (Acts 9:7).
(b) No (Acts 22:9).

Contradiction #56
When Paul saw the light he fell to the ground. Did his travelling
companions also fall to the ground?
(a) Yes (Acts 26:14).
(b) No (Acts 9:7).

Contradiction #57
Did the voice spell out on the spot what Paul’s duties were to be?
(a) Yes (Acts 26:16-18).
(b) No. The voice commanded Paul to go into the city of Damascus and
there he will be told what he must do. (Acts 9:7; 22:10).

Contradiction #58
When the Israelites dwelt in Shittin they committed adultery with the
daughters of Moab. God struck them with a plague. How many people
died in that plague?
(a) Twenty-four thousand (Numbers 25:1 and 9).
(b) Twenty-three thousand (1 Corinthians 10:8).

Contradiction #59
How many members of the house of Jacob came to Egypt?
(a) Seventy souls (Genesis 46:27).
(b) Seventy-five souls (Acts 7:14).

Contradiction #60
What did Judas do with the blood money he received for betraying Jesus?
(a) He bought a field (Acts 1:18).
(b) He threw all of it into the temple and went away. The priests
could not put the blood money into the temple treasury, so they used
it to buy a field to bury strangers (Matthew 27:5).

Contradiction #61
How did Judas die?
(a) After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged
himself (Matthew 27:5).
(b) After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell
headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed
out (Acts 1:18).

Contradiction #62
Why is the field called "Field of Blood"?
(a) Because the priests bought it with the blood money (Matthew 27:8).
(b) Because of the bloody death of Judas therein (Acts 1:19).

Contradiction #63
Who is a ransom for whom?
(a) "The Son of Man came . . . to give his life as a ransom for many"
(Mark 10:45). " . . . Christ Jesus who gave himself as a ransom
for all . . . " (1 Timothy 2:5-6).
(b) "The wicked is a ransom for the righteous, and the faithless for
the upright" (Proverbs 21:18).
Contradiction #64
Is the law of Moses useful?
(a) Yes. "All scripture is . . . profitable . . ." (2 Timothy 3:16).
(b) No. ". . . A former commandment is set aside because of its
weakness and uselessness . . . " (Hebrews 7:18).

Contradiction #65
What was the exact wording on the cross?
(a) "This is Jesus the King of the Jews" (Matthew 27:37).
(b) "The King of the Jews" (Mark 15:26)
(c) "This is the King of the Jews" (Luke 23:38).
(d) "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews" (John 19:19).

Contradiction #66
Did Herod want to kill John the baptist?
(a) Yes (Matthew 14:5).
(b) No. It was Herodias, the wife of Herod who wanted to kill him.
But Herod knew that he was a righteous man and kept him safe
(Mark 6:20).

Contradiction #67
Who was the tenth disciple of Jesus in the list of twelve?
(a) Thaddaeus (Matthew 10:1-4; Mark 3:13-19).
(b) Judas son of James is the corresponding
name in Luke’s gospel (Luke 6:12-16).

Contradiction #68
Jesus saw a man sitting at the tax collector’s office and called
him to be his disciple. What was his name?
(a) Matthew (Matthew 9:9).
(b) Levi (Mark 2:14; Luke 5:27).

Contradiction #69
Was Jesus crucified on the daytime before the Passover meal or the
daytime after?
(a) After (Mark 14:12-17).
(b) Before. Before the feast of the Passover (John 13:1) Judas went
out at night (John 13:30). The other disciples thought he was
going out to buy supplies to prepare for the Passover meal
(John 13:29). When Jesus was arrested, the Jews did not enter
Pilate’s judgement hall because they wanted to stay clean to eat
the passover (John 18:28). When the judgement was pronounced
against Jesus, it was about the sixth hour on the day of
Preparation for the Passover (John 19:14).

Contradiction #70
Did Jesus pray to The Father to prevent the crucifixion?
(a) Yes. (Matthew 26:39; Mark 14:36; Luke 22:42).
(b) No. (John 12:27).

Contradiction #71
In the gospels which say that Jesus prayed to avoid the cross,
how many times did he move away from his disciples to pray?
(a) Three (Matthew 26:36-46 and Mark 14:32-42).
(b) One. No opening is left for another two times.
(Luke 22:39-46).

Contradiction #72
Matthew and Mark agree that Jesus went away and prayed three
times. What were the words of the second prayer?
(a) Mark does not give the words but he says that the words
were the same as the first prayer (Mark 14:39).
(b) Matthew gives us the words, and we can see that they are
not the same as in the first (Matthew 26:42).

Contradiction #73
What did the centurion say when Jesus dies?
(a) "Certainly this man was innocent" (Luke 23:47).
(b) "Truly this man was the Son of God" (Mark 15:39).

Contradiction #74
When Jesus said "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
in what language did he speak?
(a) Hebrew: the words are "Eli, Eli . . . " (Matthew 27:46).
(b) Aramaic: the words are "Eloi, Eloi . . . " (Mark 15:34).

Contradiction #75
According to the gospels, what were the last words of Jesus before
he died?
(a) "Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit!" (Luke 23:46).
(b) "It is finished" (John 19:30).

Contradiction #76
When Jesus entered Capernaum he healed the slave of a centurion.
Did the centurion come personally to request Jesus for this?
(a) Yes (Matthew 8:5).
(b) No. He sent some elders of the Jews and his friends
(Luke 7:3, 6).

Contradiction #77
(a) Adam was told that if and when he eats the forbidden fruit
he would die the same day (Genesis 2:17).
(b) Adam ate the fruit and went on to live to a ripe old age
of 930 years (Genesis 5:5).

Contradiction #78
(a) God decided that the life-span of humans will be limited
to 120 years (Genesis 6:3).
(b) Many people born after that lived longer than 120. Arpachshad
lived 438 years. His son Shelah lived 433 years.
His son Eber lived 464 years, etc. (Genesis 11:12-16).

Contradiction #79
Apart from Jesus did anyone else ascend to heaven?
(a) No (John 3:13).
(b) Yes. "And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven"
(2 Kings 2:11).

Contradiction #80
Who was high priest when David went into the house of God and ate the
consecrated bread?
(a) Abiathar (Mark 2:26).
(b) Ahimelech, the father of Abiathar (1 Samuel 21:1; 22:20).

Contradiction #81
Was Jesus’ body wrapped in spices before burial in accordance with
Jewish burial customs?
(a) Yes and his female disciples witnessed his burial (John 19:39-40).
(b) No. Jesus was simply wrapped in a linen shroud.
Then the women bought and prepared spices "so that they may go
and anoint him [Jesus]" (Mark 16:1).

Contradiction #82
When did the women buy the spices?
(a) After "the sabbath was past" (Mark 16:1).
(b) Before the sabbath. The women "prepared spices and ointments."
Then, "on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment"
(Luke 23:55 to 24:1).

Contradiction #83
At what time of day did the women visit the tomb?
(a) "Toward the dawn" (Matthew 28:1).
(b) "When the sun had risen" (Mark 16:2).

Contradiction #84
What was the purpose for which the women went to the tomb?
(a) To anoint Jesus’ body with spices (Mark 16:1;Luke 23:55 to 24:1).
(b) To see the tomb. Nothing about spices here (Matthew 28:1).
(c) For no specified reason. In this gospel the wrapping with
spices had been done before the sabbath (John 20:1).

Contradiction #85
A large stone was placed at the entrance of the tomb. Where was the
stone when the women arrived?
(a) They saw that the stone was "Rolled back" (Mark 16:4).
They found the stone "rolled away from the tomb" (Luke 24:2).
They saw that "the stone had been taken away from the tomb"
(John 20:1)
(b) As the women approached, an angel descended from heaven, rolled
away the stone, and conversed with the women. Matthew made the
women witness the spectacular rolling away of the stone
(Matthew 28:1-6).


Contradiction #86
Did anyone tell the women what happened to Jesus’ body?
(a) Yes. "A young man in a white robe" (Mark 16:5).
"Two men . . . in dazzling apparel" later described as angels
(Luke 24:4 and 24:23). An angel - the one who rolled back the
stone (Matthew 16:2). In each case the women were told that
Jesus had risen from the dead
(Matthew 28:7; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:5 footnote).
(b) No. Mary met no one and returned saying, "They have taken the
Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid
him" (John 20:2).

Contradiction #87
When did Mary Magdelene first meet the resurrected Jesus? And how
did she react?
(a) Mary and the other women met Jesus on their way back from their
first and only visit to the tomb. They took hold of his feet
and worshipped him (Matthew 28:9).
(b) On her second visit to the tomb Mary met Jesus just outside the
tomb. When she saw Jesus she did not recognise him. She
mistook him for the gardener. She still thinks that Jesus’ body
is laid to rest somewhere and she demands to know where. But
when Jesus said her name she at once recognised him and called
him "Teacher." Jesus said to her, "Do not hold me . . . "
(John 20:11 to 17).

Contradiction #88
What was Jesus’ instruction for his disciples?
(a) "Tell my brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see me"
(Matthew 28:10).
(b) "Go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father
and your Father, to my God and your God" (John 20:17).


Contradiction #89
When did the disciples return to Galilee?
(a) Immediately, because when they saw Jesus in Galilee "some
doubted" (Matthew 28:17). This period of uncertainty should not
persist.
(b) After at least 40 days. That evening the disciples were still
in Jerusalem (Luke 24:33). Jesus appeared to them there and
told them, "stay in the city until you are clothed with power
from on high" (Luke 24:49). He was appearing to them "during
forty days" (Acts 1:3), and "charged them not to depart from
Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise . . . "(Acts 1:4).

Contradiction #90
To whom did the Midianites sell Joseph?
(a) "To the Ishmaelites" (Genesis 37:28).
(b) "To Potiphar, an officer of Pharoah" (Genesis 37:36).

Contradiction #91
Who brought Joseph to Egypt?
(a) The Ishmaelites bought Joseph and then "took Joseph to Egypt"
(Genesis 37:28).
(b) "The Midianites had sold him in Egypt" (Genesis 37:36).
(c) Joseph said to his brothers "I am your brother, Joseph, whom you
sold into Egypt" (Genesis 45:4).

Contradiction #92
Does God change his mind?
(a) Yes.
The word of the Lord came to Samuel: "I repent that I have
made Saul King . . ." (1 Samuel 15:10 to 11).
(b) No. God "will not lie or repent; for he is not a man, that he
should repent" (1 Samuel 15:29).
(c) Yes. "And the Lord repented that he had made Saul King over
Israel" (1 Samuel 15:35). Notice that the above three quotes
are all from the same chapter of the same book! In addition,
the Bible shows that God repented on several other occasions:
i. The Lord was sorry that he made man" (Genesis 6:6).
" I am sorry that I have made them" (Genesis 6:7)
ii."And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do
to his people" (Exodus 32:14)
iii.(Lots of other such references).

Contradiction #93
The Bible says that for each miracle Moses and Aaron demonstrated the
same by their secret arts. Then comes the following feat:
(a) Moses and Aaron converted all the available water into blood
(Exodus 7:20-21).
(b) The magicians did the same (Exodus 7:22). This is impossible,
since there would have been no water left to convert into blood.

Contradiction #94
Who killed Goliath?
(a) David (1 Samuel 17:23, 50).
(b) Elhanan (2 Samuel 21:19).

Contradiction #95
Who killed Saul?
(a) "Saul took his own sword and fell upon it. . . . Thus Saul
died... (1 Samuel 31:4-6).
(b) An Amalekite slew him (2 Samuel 1:1-16).

Contradiction #96
Does every man sin?
(a) Yes. "There is no man who does not sin" (1 Kings 8:46;
see also 2 Chronicles 6:36; Proverbs 20:9; Ecclesiastes 7:20;
and 1 John 1:8-10).
(b) No. True Christians cannot possibly sin, because they are the
children of God.

Every one who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of
God . . (1 John 5:1).
"We should be called children of God; and so we are"
(1 John 3:1).
"He who loves is born of God" (1 John 4:7).
"No one born of God commits sin; for God’s nature abides in
him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God"
(1 John 3:9).
(c) But, then again, Yes!
"If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth
is not in us" (1 John 1:8).

Contradiction #97
Who will bear whose burden?
(a) "Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ"
(Galatians 6:2).
(b) "Each man will have to bear his own load" (Galatians 6:5).

Contradiction #98
How many disciples did Jesus appear to after his resurrection?
(a) Twelve (1 Corinthians 15:5).
(b) Eleven (Matthew 27:3-5 and Acts 1:9-26, see also
Matthew 28:16; Mark 16:14 footnote; Luke 24:9; Luke 24:33).

Contradiction #99
Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
(a) After his baptism, "the spirit immediately drove him out into the
wilderness. And he was in the wilderness forty days . . .
(Mark 1:12-13).
(b) Next day after the baptism, Jesus selected two disciples.
Second day: Jesus went to Galilee — two more disciples.
Third day: Jesus was at a wedding feast in Cana in Galilee
(see John 1:35; 1:43; 2:1-11).

Contradiction #100
Was baby Jesus’s life threatened in Jerusalem?
(a) Yes, so Joseph fled with him to Egypt and stayed there until
Herod died (Matthew 2:13 - 23).
(b) No. The family fled nowhere. They calmly presented the child
at the Jerusalem temple according to the Jewish customs and
returned to Galilee (Luke 2:21-40).

Contradiction #101
When Jesus walked on water how did the disciples respond?
(a) They worshipped him, saying, "Truly you are the Son of God"
(Matthew 14:33).
(b) "They were utterly astounded, for they did not understand about
the loaves, but their hearts were hardened" (Mark 6:51-52).

Yahoo news

"Thirty-two Muslim rebels and 25
government soldiers were killed in a fierce six-day battle in western.... Algeria"

I'm not realy sympatic to algerian gov. (neither am I to the russian one) but at least, Russian are not alone against the islamists.

OK, islamists leader were democraticaly elected and have been dissmissed. But A.Hitler too had been elected (even by some jews who knew little about him)...

Adder 21

You dajjal (or satan) inhabits all mujahedeens and fanatics who kill in the name of god and beleive in death.
Death as salvation
Death as purification
Death as an award

If christians are using Jesus crucified, it's to remembre all what the human being can do to another human being.
But your ill and evil imagination see it as a jubilation. You admit this is obcene. It's your interpretation that makes you obcene.

By wasp ( - 205.243.166.83) on Sunday, January 23, 2000 - 02:53 pm:

Judah fornicates with his daughter-in-law: Ta'-mar.


[Gen. 38:15]
When he saw her, he thought her to be a harlot, for she had covered her face. He went over to her at the road side and said "Come, LET ME COME INTO YOU" for he did not know that she was his daughter-in-law. She said, "What will you give me, that you may come into me?" He answered, "I will send you a kid from the flock." And she said "Will you send me a pledge till you send it?" He said, "What pledge shall I give you?" She replied "Your signal and your cord and your staff that is in your hand."
So he gave them to her, and WENT INTO HER, and she conceived by him. About three months later, Judah was told, "Ta'-mar your daughter-in- law has played the harlot, and moreover SHE IS WITH CHILD BY HARLOTRY.

By wasp ( - 205.243.166.83) on Sunday, January 23, 2000 - 02:53 pm:
2.Sam. 13:1] Amnon the son of David fell in love with his sister Ta'-mar. "Amnon was so tormented that he made himself ill because of his sister Ta'-mar; for she was a virgin, and it seemed impossible to Amnon to do anything to her.
Amnon had a friend who said to him, "Lie down on your bed and pretend to be ill, and when [your father] the king comes to see you, you say to him: let my sister Ta'-mar come and give bread to eat from her hand. David sent Ta'-mar to her brother and ordered her to feed her brother by her hand.

Ta'-mar took the cakes she had made, and brought them into the chamber to Amnon, but when she brought them near him to eat, he took hold of her, and said to her, "Come, lie with me, my sister", she said, "No my brother, do not force me." But he would not listen to her; and being stronger than she, he forced her, and lay with her."

WHY WOULD GOD WRITE ALL THIS?

IF GOD WROTE THE BIBLE WHY ARE THERE CONTRADICTIONS?