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 igor
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This war is about eliminating the bandits .Forget all the religious stuff it is getting very boring.Who really cares who wrote what .The bottom line is this shite will be eliminated and everyone will go home.I ask you Muslims when you lose and you will, will you still believe in Allah or will you be convinced that he lied to you and is a FAKE.


   
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By FredLeDingue


In Matthew, the angel appears to Joseph in a dream and tells him that Mary's child will save his people from their sins. In Luke, the angel tells Mary that her son will be great, he will be called the Son of the Most High and will rule on David's throne forever. A short time later Mary tells Elizabeth that all generations will consider her (Mary) blessed because of the child that will be born to her.

If this were true, Mary and Joseph should have had the highest regard for their son. Instead, we read in Mark 3:20-21 that Jesus' family tried to take custody of him because they thought he had lost his mind. And later, in Mark 6:4-6 Jesus complained that he received no honor among his own relatives and his own household


   
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When Jesus was changed from a Jewish "son of David" sitting on David's throne to a divine "son of God" sitting on a heavenly throne, it became necessary to invent a godlike biography for him. Thus the troublesome virgin birth, miracles, resurrection, etc.


By FredLeDingue


The list of contradictions is by no means complete, the examples being chosen primarily from the gospels. The examples given above, however, more than prove the point that the Bible is most definitely not, in any sense, the Word of God. The church has made imaginative (and often absurd) attempts to reconcile these contradictions. None of these attempts have the ring of truth - instead they have the ring of desperation


   
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 igor
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Turk you are starting to sound as stupid as Abfoolah. There is NO Chechen government.These are criminal bandits and all the wishfull thinking will not make anybody negotiate anything. The only negotiation is surrender or you will die.GOT IT?


   
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"""The embattled bridge has been a major transit route for the militants, and leads to Minutka Square, which remains in the hands of some 2,500 rebels still entrenched in Grozny, the military command said."""

Now, Russians want us to believe that Grozny is completely encircled, and all the routes in and out of the city is cut. They also want us believe that they are killing hundreds of rebels everyday. But, why the number of rebels is always around 2000 for weeks, actuallly now went up to 2500.

Look! I am sick and tired of being lied, and taken for a ride by the Russian propaganda. Can someone tell me why should we believe what Russians say?


   
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By igor ( - 206.47.244.62) on Sunday, January 23, 2000 - 08:59 pm
if you dont want to talk religeon then wht is this?

I ask you Muslims when you lose and you will, will you still believe in Allah or will you be convinced that he lied to you and is a FAKE


   
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 igor
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Turk write your Congressman and complain


   
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Alluh smallah fagallah fuckallah offah youah stupidah goofah.


   
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By igor ( - 206.47.244.62


And verily, it had been revealed to you (O Muhammad ) as has been revealed to those before you. If you join others in worship with Allah (then) surely (all) your deeds will be in vain and you will certainly be among the losers. Nay! But worship Allah and be among grateful." (Qur'an, 39:65-66)


   
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I wipe vmy feet on his robe.


   
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By igor ( - 206.47.244.62


"And whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him. He will make a way for him to get out (from) every (difficulty), and He will provide him from (sources) he could never imagine." (Qur'an, 65:2-3)


   
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Igor,

I am not surprised with your outburst. When you are wrong, and when you are trying to defend a crime against humanity, you are doomed to loose the argument. Then what's left but try to divert the argument with personal abuse, childish pranks, name callings, etc.

However I still think you are reasonably intelligent to know the truth. The only issue is when you will have a principled stance on this war, rather than applauding every crime the Russian army commits.


   
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O ye who believe! when ye meet the Unbelievers in hostile array, never turn your backs to them.

That, and also because Allah is He Who makes feeble the plans and stratagem of the Unbelievers.
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Remember how the Unbelievers plotted against thee, to keep thee in bonds, or slay thee, or get thee out (of thy home). They plot and plan, and Allah too plans; but the best of planners is Allah


   
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Adder21
What the *** we care of the letters to the Corynthians...
or if pork his prohibited!
Because it's outdated.
It was written 1750 years ago at the very latest.
Our religion is not made of textes which are of course manmade!
We take those which fit to our view to illustrate a certain wisedom. Certainely we are not using stories of incest very often though they are in the Bible.
You may know the bible better than me but not my religion as I can see.
There is a difference and I'm not sur you can makes this difference

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Turk
"should let it go every bit of decency and modesty? "
I sincerly think, in western countries young girls are the most often dressed up in very descent and modest way... but it's not the image given by Hollywood of course.

"Are you saying that, for the sake of modernity, we should let it go every bit of decency and modesty? What is modernity? Is it appearance only? Isn't it more than skin-deep? "

Well...No! If they feel all right with it, it's all right for me too.
Tought I beleive that thinking of obeing to God in choosing clothes is a litle bit crazy. How to say? As well as washing hand before eating? Do you obey god or is it by hygeny? And when you are washing your theet, is it also in obediance to Hallah?

I was just asking...

What is Islam? Is it appearance only? Isn't it more than skin-deep?


   
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Igor


Remember Satan made their (sinful) acts seem alluring to them, and said: "No one among men can overcome you this day, while I am near to you": But when the two forces came in sight of each other, he turned on his heels, and said: "Lo! I am clear of you; lo! I see what ye see not; Lo! I fear Allah: for Allah is strict in punishment."


   
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