LoL! Poor Chechens, too bad they only come in "limited" numbers. And too bad their supplies are "limited too. Too bad the places they can run and hide to are "limited also. LOL!

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Names of Russian soldiers killed in Grozny this week
Interview with Scholar of the Mujahideen in Chechnya, Sheikh Abu Umar Al-Saif

RUSSIANS:

HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOLDIERS MOTHERS' COMMITTEE!


Russians Bogged Down in Grozny

By BARRY RENFREW
Associated Press Writer

MOSCOW (AP) — Despite weeks of bitter fighting, the Russian military is bogged down in the ruins of Grozny, unable to capture the shattered Chechen capital or defeat its outgunned rebel defenders.

Why has one of the world's largest armies been struggling for months to take a single city? Why can't a military with 1.7 million troops defeat a few thousand guerrillas who have no tanks, planes or heavy artillery?

After years of political and economic decline in Russia, the military is more like an armed mob than a modern army. Most combat units are made up of untrained teen-age conscripts who can barely use a weapon. Many officers are as ill-trained and demoralized as their men.

Trained infantry is the backbone of any army. Combat training in Western armies lasts up to a year, with even more for officers and noncommissioned officers. Some of the Russian soldiers killed in Chechnya had been in the army for six weeks.

Most soldiers, drafted for two years' service, are desperate to get out of the military. Life in the ranks is hard, with soldiers sometimes going hungry and enduring brutal hazing by older soldiers. Morale, the psychological force that gives soldiers the will to fight, has collapsed.

All these weaknesses have been exposed in the battle for Grozny. Reluctant Russian soldiers are being hurled against experienced guerrillas fighting with fanatical determination for their homes.

Urban warfare is among the most difficult and dangerous kind of combat. The defenders of a city have thousands of places to hide and every building can be turned into a fortress. Attacking forces must clear a city house by house, street by
street. The defenders can slip around the attackers, striking them on the flank or from behind at any time.

The untrained, demoralized Russian infantry is totally unprepared for this kind of war. When their fumbling ground attacks meet resistance, the Russians call in air and artillery strikes to clear the way.

But the airstrikes rarely cause casualties among the Chechen fighters, who know the Russian tactics and pull back before the bombardment. The shelling demolishes empty buildings, creating new hideouts for the Chechens in the rubble and new obstacles for the Russian troops.

At night, the Russians often pull back to fortified bases, giving up territory they have just taken. The guerrillas reoccupy the ground and the Russians must seize it again, losing more men day after day.

Despite Russian claims, the military's encirclement of Grozny has failed to seal off the city. The rebels can move in and out with supplies, especially at night when the Russians pull back.

Grozny will almost certainly fall, but not because the Russian military will outfight the Chechens. The Chechens chose to fight in Grozny because it gave them the best chance to inflict casualties on the Russians, which is their chief aim. The guerrillas, who are taking some losses, will pull out before their own casualties reach a point that threatens their ability to keep the war going.

The Russian military has based its strategy on taking Grozny, gambling that a high-profile victory will destroy the Chechens' will to fight. But the rebels likely will shift the struggle into the countryside and fight on as they did after they lost Grozny during the 1994-96 fighting — a war they eventually won.

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EDITOR'S NOTE: Barry Renfrew, the AP's Moscow bureau chief, has been covering fighting in Chechnya since 1994.

To Conrad,

Thank you for your reply.

Russians are not liked anywhere in the world. Let alone Canada. Russians were responsible for the deaths of over 8 million Ukrainians. If you travel form Kyiv to Kharkiv you will hear the same sentiment expressed. Russians are a low level barabric people with expansionist aims. Its up to the free world led by the United States to stop these backward savages.

You are right about Igor, he really sounds like a complete mental retard. However, I will congratulate the person who taught him how to use a computer. Hairy Mary is right also about him not being potty trained.

2 Ukrainian Girl,

>>> Russians are not liked anywhere in the world. Let alone Canada. Russians were responsible for the deaths of over 8 million Ukrainians. If you travel form Kyiv to Kharkiv you will hear the same sentiment expressed.

I think you exaggerate about anti-Russian sentiments in eastern Ukraine, such as in Kharkiv or, say, Odessa. As far as I know, they are not strong there, and very few people speak Ukrainian in the first place (after all, you still do not hear Ukrainian language often even in Kyiv/Kiev now. At least I did not last year when i was there). On the other hand, the situation is completely different in Lviv/Lemberg.

As for you characteristic of russians as savages, especially now in Chechnya, and in the past - in Ukraine, I agree with you.

2 Ukrainian girl,

Are you one of these girls/ladies?

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/p/ap/20000124/sp/italy_biathlon_world_cu_faq.html

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/p/ap/20000123/sp/italy_biathlon_world_cu_ly7.html

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/p/ap/20000119/wl/ukraine_epiphany.html

Hurreh!!!

Russians fags(soldiers) are dying like dogs!!!

The Russians are still dying like dogs in Chechnia. The Russian morale is very low. The Russian soldiers usually get paid $5 a month. Now $5 a month shows how poor the Russians are.

The Russian leaders think Russian military is super power or something. The Russian military is dead. It was dead in 1991 after the fall of communism. Most East Europeans hate Russians because of what the Russians did to them in the days of the cold war. All Russian fags(generals) will die soon.

Russian soldiers are eating dogs and cats in Grozny for the lack of other food.

"Meanwhile, in the Russian controlled territory of Chechnya outside Grozny, Moscow's forces are living up to their reputation for rudeness, intimidation and violence. Bella, 46, escaped from Grozny a fortnight ago and now lives in a dark, crowded hostel with 1,700 other refugees in the village of Sernovodsk, west of Grozny.

In Grozny, she said, she saw Russian troops eating dogs and cats because they had trouble maintaining their food supplies. She said that there was a filtration camp where Chechen men were tortured at the 6th Polyclinic in the Staropromyskovsky region in Grozny's northwestern outskirts."

http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/01/28/timfgnrus02003.html?999

"By igor ( - 206.47.244.62) on Saturday, January 29, 2000 - 12:57 am:
Bad news if you are Chechen bandit supporter.We don't hear anymore news from them.In fact we are not hearing from them at all."

First a correction. We are supporters of Chechen freedom fighters against Russian bandits. Three Russian soldiers breaking into an old women's house and robbing and bashing her senseless. If you don't call this banditry, then you must be a bandit supporter.

Secondly people has jobs, school, families, or other activities than sitting in front of a screen all day.

I wonder when Russia eventually lose this war, and leave Chechnya, will you still be around to continue to talk about Russian victories and nuclear arsenal, etc. You can imagine what sort of joke you will be!

Since the first (recent) Chechen armed conflict ended Chechnia got transferred $2 bln. US for free, had been getting free el. power, natural gas, used to regularly steal crude from the Baku pipeline (and RF Transneft used to get the Azerbajani blame and pay for it) - enough to start "independence" with. Instead during all the "independence" period kids haven't been to school , pensioners haven't been paid, warlords been building cellcomm. networks (cutting heads of British engineers in the course of it), been building private jokes of gas (very low quality) "plants", printing counterfeit dollars on a grand scale (40 cents a dollar in Ingushetiya), kidnapping "brothers" and-not-so-btothers (UNHCR Comm. was released for a hefty $5 mln. - lucky SOB), killing Red Cross workers (rumors go, those poor ones stumbled on a human organs trade), etc.. Sure, this "freedom" of any law and order needs "fighters".

2 Kissie,

If Chechens are as bad as you describe them, why you, russians, want them in your "federation"?!!

Why not you talk more honestly that
1) ordinary russians want to revenge chechens after they outsmarted you in 1996 (even though they were greatly outnumbered...), or that
2) Mr Putin wants to use the war to enhance his election chances?
3) waging wars agains its neighbors was the reason d’être of russian mentality, so that there is nothing special in the current war, and georgia/abhazia may be the next victiom (unless chechens blow the russian nose again).

Come on, be more honest, and book better on russians themselves. After all, there is more hatred in Eastern Europe (at least) towards russia (see item 3) rather than Chechnya...

2 Kissie,

If Chechens are as bad as you describe them, why you, russians, want them in your "federation" (or, better said, what is left of crumbling russian empire?!!

Why not you talk more honestly that
1) ordinary russians want to revenge chechens after they outsmarted Russians in 1996 (even though Chechens were greatly outnumbered...);
2) Mr Putin wants to use the war to enhance his election chances;
3) waging wars agains its neighbors was the reason d’être of russian mentality, so that there is nothing special in the current war, and georgia/abhazia may be the next victiom (unless chechens blow the russian nose again, and I hope they will...).

Come on, be more honest, and look better at russians themselves. After all, there is more hatred in Eastern Europe (at least) towards russia (because of item 3) rather than towards Chechnya...

To all Russia supporters:

Three Russian soldiers breaking into an old women's house and robbing and bashing her senseless. If you don't call this banditry, then you must be a bandit supporter.

You are conveniently ignoring responding to the above. Do you support the action of these three soldiers? How this sort of behaviour is making you feel?

You are conveniently ignoring responding to the above. Do you support the action of these "freedom fighters"? How this sort of behaviour is making you feel?

Honestly, dear three-stringed samurai Balalaika, answer You later, stick around, I'll have to run. (No backstabbing - it's against bushido.;o)))