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 turk
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Kissie,

You are one hell of shite! You can not even respond to a simple question. I am asking again.

Three Russian soldiers breaking into an old women's house and robbing and bashing her senseless. Do you support the action of these three soldiers? How this sort of behaviour is making you feel?


   
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 abd
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Victory for Chechnia means Victory for whole UMMAH( all the muslims in the world).


   
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 abd
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Bro Turk,

Salamu alikum. Do not worry about the enemy of Allah, they are deaf, dumb, and blind. If you ask they will not answer your question and if you show them the truth they will not see, because you know the facts.


   
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 abd
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Igor,

I am here, where are you my son.

Thank you for looking for me.

dady


   
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 abd
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A GREAT LOOSER IS HE WHO DOES NOT KNOW HIS LOARD.


   
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(@balalaika)
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A GREAT LOOSER IS HE WHO DOES NOT RELEASE HIS LOAD.

Balalaika


   
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(@balalaika)
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>>> You are conveniently ignoring responding to the above. Do you support the action of these "freedom fighters"? How this sort of behaviour is making you feel?

OK, I will answer you question. Among a lot of people (and there are a lot of Chechens, though their number is decreasing) it is not that difficult to find a dozen of nuts who are just plain crazy (such as Basaev's gang). However, in the case of russian offence we have many thousands of military man, who displaced as many as 200,000 chechen CIVILIANS, often demolishing their houses, and occasionally killing them as well. This is barbaric, and in much wider scale than your references to chechens.

P.S. I will honor bushido (it is the correct spelling), so do not worry about backstabbing ;).


   
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(@fredledingue)
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Hello, I'm already there!

I have found the REAL NAME of ABD!!

It's Abdullah Abdulevitsh Abdulmuslimov.

(mayby a relative of the minister of media and culture and spokeman of Aslan Maskadov)
Typicaly russian name.

(I have a powerful research engine that translate IP numbers in real name...)


   
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(@fredledingue)
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Turk
"Three Russian soldiers breaking into an old women's house..."

To be soldier means to be able to kill without remorse (I mean for elite fighter) so if they can kill, they can rob old women as well.
I don't defend barbaric act by russian army but such an act is not caracteristic of that army.
You will find such a case in every war from both side.
Only western armies have recentely learn to be careful of such a thing and also pay there soldiers enoughs and supply them on the ground with rear confort accomodations.
Russian army is still an old-time one
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Victory for NON ISLAMIC Chechnia means Victory for whole UMMAHnity(and all the muslims in the world).

Do not worry about the enemy of Allah (Shamil Basayev, Kahttab, dustBin Ladden and C° who are sending young boys to be killed), they are deaf, dumb, and blind.


   
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 dima
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THE MUSLIM CHECHEN SHITS ARE GONNA DIE LIKE DOGS.

Russia has already killed about 10000 for you and even Mashadov admits that. Maybe if the Chechens had homest jobs and didnt attack Ingushetia russia wouldnt be here.


   
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(@fredledingue)
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ABD
My last message was for you.
Another one for you:

54 chechen fighters surrendered in Grozny!
@Today's Yahoonews


   
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(@figures)
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Published Friday, January 28, 2000, in the San Jose Mercury News

Critic: Chechen war plan predated attack
BY ROBYN DIXON
Los Angeles Times

MOSCOW -- Raising questions about the Kremlin's justification for the war in Chechnya, former Prime Minister Sergei Stepashin said Thursday that Russia planned its invasion of the separatist republic in March -- months before a Chechen attack in southern Russia that the government cited as the excuse for sending in troops.

After an August attack by Chechen rebels on Dagestan, a southern republic neighboring Chechnya, and a series of apartment bombings in
Moscow and southern Russia in August and September, anti-Chechen sentiment was at an all-time high. Russian leaders, blaming Chechens for the attacks, launched an offensive soon after.

But concrete evidence that Chechens were behind the apartment bombings, which killed 300 people, has never emerged, and there has been speculation that Russian authorities may have been involved in
the attacks.

Stepashin's accusations, which Russian authorities have denied, are fuel for the conspiracy theories. They come as Russian troops continue their struggle to gain control of a strategic square in Grozny, the Chechen capital, and as the government takes steps to try to limit the negative information seeping out about mounting Russian casualties.

His remarks also suggest how far the Russian military has diverged from what he says was its original plan: to occupy only the northern sector of Chechnya. The Russians have thrust farther south, taking key towns and villages before being inevitably drawn into an attack on Grozny, which is heavily fortified by rebels.

Stepashin was interior minister in March and in a position to know of plans then to invade Chechnya. He later served a brief term as prime minister before being replaced by Vladimir Putin, now acting president, in early August. He says Putin, who was head of Russia's security service in March, knew about the plans to invade Chechnya.

After becoming prime minister, Putin reaped political benefits from his tough handling of the war; his popularity soared, and he is favored to
win the presidential election in March.

Some military analysts now suggest that the Kremlin had planned the Chechen operation with popular opinion in mind.

``I am absolutely convinced that from the very beginning the war was planned as a powerful and extremely cynical Kremlin PR campaign,'' said retired Col. Alexander Zhilin, military analyst with the weekly Moskovskiye Novosti.

``I am also sure that the real reason why Stepashin was fired was that he was not prepared to play the Kremlin game eagerly enough, and the Kremlin decided they could not quite trust him to conduct this PR war raging now in Chechnya with such tragic results,'' Zhilin said.

Stepashin told the Interfax news agency Thursday that the Chechen invasion was planned in March after the kidnapping of a Russian general by Chechen bandits, but he said it was never envisioned as a full-scale war.

``Terrorist camps throughout Chechnya were to be discovered and destroyed. But there were not supposed to be full-scale hostilities,'' Stepashin said Thursday, repeating earlier comments made to the Russian newspaper Nezavisimaya Gazeta.

In the earlier interview he said, ``The plan of action in (Chechnya) was being elaborated starting in March. We were planning to reach the Terek in August to September. This would have happened even if there had been no explosions in Moscow.''

Russia has been under Western pressure over the civilian cost of its Chechen campaign, and U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, who flew to Moscow on Thursday, is expected to renew calls for peace
talks when he meets with Putin today.

Russia avoided embarrassment Thursday when Europe's supreme human rights body, the Council of Europe's parliamentary assembly, voted against a proposal to expel the Russian delegation or suspend its voting rights. Instead, the body gave Russia until April to show progress toward peace in Chechnya.


   
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(@gofigure)
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Fred DeL

The archetype of an elite fighter CANNOT be
somebody with no morals or ethics. What's elite
about such a person? Can a thug or a bully be
called elite fighter?

This archetype can only be an honorable, moral,
ethical person who is fighting for a righteous
cause. Without these characteristics a human being
is less than an animal. What kind of elite is that


   
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(@kissie)
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By Dima ( - 207.172.119.200) on Saturday, January 29, 2000 - 12:00 pm:
THE MUSLIM CHECHEN SHITS ARE GONNA DIE LIKE DOGS.

Russia has already killed about 10000


if they killed that many, then who's left?
why is it taking so long for them to take grozny?


   
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(@kissie)
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By Dima ( - 207.172.119.200) on Saturday, January 29, 2000 - 12:00 pm:
THE MUSLIM CHECHEN SHITS ARE GONNA DIE LIKE DOGS.


yeh so you can eat them.like you eat dogs,cats


   
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