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(@turk2)
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>>>By Dimitri ( - 63.85.63.20) on Friday, July 7, 2000 - 03:45 pm:

You're unbelievable! What's next you're going to tell me that I am Turk? LOL. >>>

Funy you said that!

On a serious note, some of your latest posts are good. I am impressed with your attack on racism. Wouldn't it be wonderful if you could decounce nationalism as well. Regardless of what you might say or think, a Turk and a Russian (Polish, Ukranian, etc., depending on your mood!) have more similarities than their differences.

All those problems like greenhouse effect, new diseases threating humanity, nuclear accidents like Chernobyl, being destroyed by a meteorite, etc. will make no distinction on what somebody might call himself.

Also other problems, like powerty, corruption, pollution, etnic conflicts, are the problems faced by everyone. Just look at North Ireland!

On the other hand, everyone has similar aspirations, just to live a life with the loved ones as peaceful, comfortable, and meaningful as possible.


   
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(@treslavance)
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ohaya, delenn:

and _some_ things i do believe i've 'gone and
figured'...heh
==
very cool name.

real one or not.


   
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Welcome turk2, blamed Dymitri for incognito but hiding yours IP, are you realy turk,or converted assirian?
Antonio, give me a brake, I can't swear in every dialect, russian is very equiped for that. Have you ever been contacting with Edichka Lemon back in Russia, you sounds sometime familiar? As an evidence you often supply- One guy told me- , are you restricted in your contacts or just selective? What would be happend if you lived in Israel for couple mohth and took other point of view? Turned upside dawn or find more proof for yourself. Something new in witch hunt here, jew gilty in all troubles of armenian in Turkey and N.karabach. For what reason? Did they mention also misfortune with earthquake? Anyway, God also punish chosen people enough, look at Jake Berstine ears...realy bad sample for Guiness book. Armenian trouble start in 18.. , juish continue for centuries. One cruelty respont to another, what happend by the lake Van, what armenian did for turkish, have no information? (turk may help with). You know Germans ruined Warsaw but spared Praga and Paris.


   
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Very happy to see gueen, many of us here...


   
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 ivan
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Greetings Kissie good to see you back .


   
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(@delenn)
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Ohaya, L'-san, Ivan the Terrible:o), Alehandro
* Well, L'-san, since You talked to Ambassador Kosh ...:o)


   
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... On a serious note, some of your latest posts are good. I am impressed with your attack on racism. Wouldn't it be wonderful if you could decounce nationalism as well. ...
* Sancta simpicitas, borrowing Baron's words. Heh. Unfortunately, Turk forgets (or quietly bypasses) the issue that Islam, being international, is very much national and nationalistic in terms of states, professing it. There's little "great love" for "bros" on the ground level - on the establishment level there is some of it, but for the sake of supporting the image. Palestinian "bros", for instance, are pushed around by their Kuwaiti "bros" on a daily basis. Malaysian maids abused beyond belief and kept shut or ..... .
Turk sounds like a newborn kitten, with the world new to it, prancing with joy ... .


   
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Yep, the space defence "shield" blew intestinal gases. E-e-e-h-h, what was the price tag? Enough to turn "cleansed" Albania into a Garden of Eden of everybody's envy ... heh.
What our board's enthusiastic "humanitarianistic" "humaniphiles" can tell about this waste of the "Western values"?


   
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It seems, Delenn, that you yourself a pretty good example of "waste of the "Western values".


   
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Alehandro, I'm not usually picking on for typos (we all make them), but this one is hard to pass by - it supposed to be "give me a break". I guess, "brake" is what Antonio gives us all the time.


   
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Alehandro, Jake is an Aryan Nations guy. He speaks like a caricature character in their pamphlets, he quotes forgeries in place of religious scriptures, he poses with Aryan Sword of Truth (or Magic Sword, or Sword of Christ - make a pick). Aryan Nations ideology is quite ludicrous. They proclaim White Race to be Israelites - those lost Israeli tribes that moved from Holy Land to Europe and India. "Aryan invasion" accommodates, btw, the archeological issue, nazis struggled with - the language of earliest known Europeans was semitic.

Aryan Nations call God - Yahweh, Jesus - Yeshua. They called their compounds by Hebrew names - infamous Elohim City in Oklahoma, for example. Many of them follows Bible literally, including food restrictions. Yeshua, however, is considered to be a blue-eyed Aryan, calling him a Jew (even a blue-eyed) is a major blasphemy, worthy of a capital punishment.

Aryan Nations ideology divides humanity into 3 races: Aryans (Anglo-Saxon and Scandinavian blood) or White Race, second one is Jews, and the third - Asian, African, Aborigine, all other people or Mud Race. Jews are said to be false Israelites who have nothing to do with neither Bible nor Yahweh. White Race are descendants of Adam and Eve, God's chosen people. Mud Race is pre-Adamic creation, sort of laboratory experimentation by God while he was working on creation of Anglo-Saxons and
Scandinavians. Aryan Nations claims that beasts, mentioned in Bible as being created before Adam, are those mud guys. Mud Race is created insufficiently human and intended to serve as slaves to white folks.

The best part is reserved for Jews. They are neither white nor mud. Just like whites, they are descendants of Eve, but not of Adam. According to Aryan Nations, Eve was seduced by Satan and gave birth to his son, which is an ancestor of all modern Jews. Jews use mud people as a weapon against whites. There can not be any coexistence between White Race and Jews (though it seems to be a coexistence between God and Satan), Jews should be exterminated.

This lunacy is not a prerogative of our blood only. Once, in New York, I met a group of black guys dressed as Temple Priests in Bible movies. They were singing similar song with one, understandable difference - true Israelites are blacks now, and the whites - mud. Jews retained their honorary satanic status for pure consistency, I guess.

Jake (and Antonio, too) seems to be of that kind of a man who will be ready to bust his own eye provided that neighbor will lose twice as many. In meantime, they just keep trying to bust balls.


   
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(@delenn)
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It seems, Delenn, that you yourself a pretty good example of "waste of the "Western values".
* Yeah, in view of their implementation, he-heh.


   
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(@treslavance)
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mask:
absolutely.
we blew ber-STEEN's doors off
when last he was around.
and he _still_ doesn't know 'the sephardic' from a
hole in the ground.

it's sorta ironic;
when he starts swinging his sword around it had
reminded me of the marvel comic book character THE
MIGHTY THOR. you know, asgard and hammer and odin
n' stuff. the Norse pantheon.
_coincidence_, or something..... More? -_-
==
but this too:
nice return shot, my
liege----oops, er,heh...dellen-san...just like
wimbledon. well-played!


[cue: louis armstrong singing "hello dolly"]


   
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(@treslavance)
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delenn,
gomen nasai.
gomen nasai.
spelt your name wrong.
gomen nasai.

[wink]
L'nmeeex.


   
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 ivan
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PRISTINA, Yugoslavia (AP) _ In a case that could have serious repercussions throughout Kosovo, U.N. police are investigating a shootout between a former Kosovo Liberation Army commander-turned politician and a family allied with his political rivals.
Ramush Haradinaj was taken to the U.S. military hospital at Camp Bondsteel following the Friday shooting, which occurred in the western village of Streoce. Haradinaj"s condition was stable, NATO spokesman Maj. Scott Slaten said.

Haradinaj"s political party, the Alliance for the Future of Kosovo, said the former KLA commander and his relative, Daut Haradinaj, were traveling by car when their vehicle was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade.

Daut Haradinaj is a sector commander of the Kosovo Protection Force, which was organized as a civil emergency unit after the KLA was officially disbanded last year.

In Streoce, Sadik Musa claimed the Haradinajs and some of their followers attacked his home about 1 a.m. with automatic weapons. Musa told Associated Press Television New that he and his relatives returned fire, wounding the two Haradinajs.

Musa and others claimed the attack was launched because they support Haradinaj"s rivals in the Democratic League of Kosovo, led by Ibrahim Rugova. Musa said Ramush Haradinaj abducted his brother last year because he was fighting in a rival ethnic Albanian militia led by Bujar Bukoshi, who is a member of Rugova"s party.

Musa spoke under the trees in front of his home, which was pocked with bullet holes. Italian and U.N. police stood guard. Two bullet-riddled cars were parked in the compound and bloodstains were visible on the ground.

"He wants to win the election in Kosovo by force, by killing his rivals," another man, Beslim Balaj, said of Haradinaj.

The Associated Press telephoned Ramush Haradinaj"s party for comment on the allegations but was told no spokesman was available.

The incident could drive up political tensions among Kosovo Albanians in advance of local elections expected in October.

The case also raises questions about NATO"s control of the Kosovo Protection Corps, which was supposed to be an unarmed, civilian relief and humanitarian organization set up last year to provide a role for former KLA fighters.

When the protection corps was organized, NATO assured both the Kosovo Serb community and international governments that its officers would be placed under strict control and would not serve as a paramilitary group.

Ramush Haradinaj was a leading commander in the ethnic Albanian guerrilla army during the 18-month conflict with the Serbs, which prompted NATO military intervention last year.

After the conflict ended and NATO-led peacekeepers replaced Serb forces here, Haradinaj organized what is believed to be the third-largest political party in the ethnic Albanian community.

In May, Haradinaj scuffled with Russian peacekeepers, after they stopped him at a checkpoint. He suffered a black eye when he was briefly detained, after two weapons were found in his car without proper paperwork.

NATO said he had attempted to flee and that peacekeepers and military police "subdued him."


   
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