HI MARY How are you today? Can't wait to hear reply to Antonio's post.Are't you going to tell Barnyardswein off for insulting you?Myself I tried that chat on Yahoo yesterday for 40's and was getting nothing but 11 and 14 year olds .What the heck are they doing on there?There were about 4 or 5 guys with the pimp handle.

Russian Ultra-Nationalist Zhirinovsky Says Turks, U.S. Behind Chechnya War

BUCHAREST, Jul 10, 2000 -- (Agence France Presse) Russian ultra-nationalist leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky accused "U.S. and Turkish secret services" on Sunday of being behind the war in Chechnya.

"The war in Chechnya was provoked by U.S. and Turkish secret services who want to take hold of a Russian terrorist group," Zhirinovsky said on the margins of a Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) meeting.

"The Chechen population is a victim of the Americans, not the Russians," added the outspoken and controversial deputy, who is a part of the Russian delegation to the OSCE summit in the Romanian capital.

Zhirinovsky also accused France, which has advocated the linking of aid to Russia to progress in human rights, of "playing a game with Russia in order to score points in its battle with Germany."

"For 200 years, France and Britain have done nothing but harm Russia," he insisted.

However he asserted that Russia would soon have its revenge, claiming that "the end of France is near, the country is invaded by Islamists." He also said the US "would soon disappear, submerged by flood waters caused by global warming".

Continuing his diatribe, Zhirinovsky said Istanbul would soon be reduced to rubble in an earthquake, while the Czech people would be swallowed up by Germany.

He went on to predict that "democracy will then die, replaced by nationalism".

However he gave his firm backing to Russian President Vladimir Putin's national address, delivered on Saturday, in which the Putin stressed that only a strong centralized state could deliver a booming economy, social justice and individual freedoms.

Zhirinovsky said he was "in agreement with every word" of Putin's confident debut national address.

"It is the best message to the nation that I have ever heard. The important thing is its application," he said.

Russian Duma Parliament Members In Belgrade, Blast UN Tribunal

BELGRADE, Jul 10, 2000 -- (Reuters) A Russian parliamentary delegation visiting Belgrade condemned the UN war crimes tribunal for being "a political instrument of NATO countries", the Yugoslav state news agency Tanjug said on Sunday.

Russia fiercely opposed NATO's 1999 bombing campaign against the government of Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic, who was indicted by the Hague-based tribunal along with four senior associates for alleged war crimes in Kosovo.

Tanjug quoted from a statement issued by the Yugoslav parliament after a meeting with the four-member State Duma (lower house) delegation led by Dmitry Rogozin, head of its foreign affairs committee.

"The Russian parliamentarians stressed that the Russian people extend full support to the Yugoslav people's struggle in the defense of freedom, independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity," the statement said.

The Russian parliamentarians also asked for the return of the Yugoslav army to Kosovo, a Serbian province now under NATO-backed UN administration, the statement said.

They called for the lifting of all sanctions against Yugoslavia and its return to international organizations from which the country has been barred as a result of its involvement in Balkan wars during the 1990s.

The Russian parliamentarians and Yugoslav Serb officials both stressed the need to increase economic cooperation through joint ventures and participation of Russian firms in the reconstruction of Yugoslavia.

They said the two countries would soon sign a free trade agreement, Tanjug said.

A Yugoslav parliament delegation visited Moscow last month following trips by Foreign Minister Zivadin Jovanovic, Defense Minister Dragoljub Ojdanic and Serbian opposition leaders.

Ojdanic's visit triggered a storm of criticism in Western capitals as he is one of four Milosevic associates also indicted by the UN tribunal over alleged atrocities against ethnic Albanians in the 1998-99 Kosovo conflict.

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hm:
....and just _which_ award do you think 'st.tony' should be nominated for?

HI L"menexe:

Seems that's something that we're all going to have to work on. But I'm sure creativity will be brought forward and "ANT" will get an award that will be most fitting. he he he

Big HI IGOR

Great links about "STINKS" that your posting, keep up the good work.

As for me being insulted, wellllll, take a look at the source. He probably was passed over by one of his barn yard buddies and therefore, tried to take out his frustrations here.

Igor, truth be told, when you mentioned the guys with the "pimp handle" I see red. I have nothing but contempt for these lower forms of life who's only objective is to exploit and harm children for life.

Igor, I'm not speaking as a parent, I have no children, but rather I'm speaking as an extreamly concerned person who will contribute in any way I can to catch and prosecute these lowlifes. Yes I have some great laughs joking around on the net "clean, harmless adult fun." But, unfortunitly, this medium has turned into a treasure chest of opportunity for the perverted of this world.

aleh:
and _this_ is why i'll 'fight' along with igor on
this matter.
ber-STEEEN would appear to have conceded the point
regarding that link, eh, igor?
the link revealing the truth; that he's not only
'goyim' himself, but a RAHOWA fake nazi to boot.
and a _funny-looking_ one too!
==
reporting the truth must hurt you, isnt that so,
ber-STEEEN? and if you, ha, 'report' igor,
_you'll_ take the fall for being a RAHOWA fake
nazi pretending to be an extremist jew.
the entire internet apparently has free-access to
that page, so on what grounds could you report
igor?
==
igor,is it working? do you think we're getting rid
of him? i should join you in posting that link.

list of people kidnapped by Chechen bandits

mask:
if my _parents_ were jewish, twould stand to reason that i too was jewish, yes?
_if_ my parents were jewish.

but tell me again about being "on jewish payroll".

do you mean i can get PAID for doin' this?
HOO-HAH!

Hello all. THx, still wondering where was it "recently reported that south korea was planning on invading the north", or did you just make that up.

Hairy Mairy
If the New DMS Order didn't overthrew the DMS coalition in his recent coup, I would propose St Antonio as Archbishop of the Coalition!
I 'd bet he will be too happy.

______________________________
FUNIEST POST OF THE DAY
(Of course a quote from Zhirinovsky )

By IVAN Grozny ( - 149.99.71.19) on Monday, July 10, 2000 - 09:47 am:
Russian Ultra-Nationalist Zhirinovsky Says Turks, U.S. Behind Chechnya War

"The Chechen population is a victim of the Americans, not the Russians,"

(Interresting what Zhiri would do with the Chechens if he had the power)

...
He also said the US "would soon disappear, submerged by flood waters caused by global warming".
(Hahaha!)


He went on to predict that "democracy will then die, replaced by nationalism".
(please pronounce nationaLIZM)

However he gave his firm backing to Russian President Vladimir Putin's national address...
Zhirinovsky said he was "in agreement with every word" of Putin's confident debut national address.

He should HATE putin to offer his backing to him.
Because he knows that's the best way to destroy his image in the west and in Russia.

_____________
Jake Bornswein, YOU'RE A FAKE JEW.
It's written on your forehead but your ears hide it.

lol

Barnswein tell me did the kids at school make fun of you when your were a little puke.I bet it was worse in high school when everyone was dating and no one would go out with you because of your abnormally large ears and the protruding vein in your forehead.Also you should use some of that Preparation X on those zits you got all over your face.Tell me did the kids call you Pizza Face? You were (are) so ugly that your mother fed you with a with a slingshot.Did you ever ask that barnyard cow Tammy why she always turns the lights out when you make barnyard sex?You should be ashamed to make that girl work the streets of LA.Why don't you do us a favour and shoot yourself and put yourself out of misery.I printed up your picture and use it for shooting practicewith my buddies new 50 calibre sniper gun.I will report you to the Humane Society for bestiality you sick fuuck.It is an abomination to have sex with barnyard animals.Send me an e-mail if you wish forgivness you ugly piece of dog shite.

Who's Going to Clean Up Serbia?

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By Joan McQueeney Mitric
Sunday, July 9, 2000; Page B01


Look at a map of Europe, and the long blue line of the Danube stands out. Starting as a thin stream in Germany's Black Forest, and already mighty as it passes Strauss's Vienna, this colossal river cuts a 1,770-mile southeasterly course through 10 countries before emptying into the Black Sea. The Danube, for centuries a major trade route, links central Europe's grandest capitals--as well as some of its most diverse ecosystems--and supplies drinking water to millions.

Halfway along this vital watercourse, where the river is at its widest, sits a political, geographical and metaphorical obstruction known as Serbia, a state many Western policymakers are pretending no longer exists. Most plans to rebuild and stabilize the Balkans circumvent Serbia entirely. Perhaps because Serbia's villainous president, Slobodan Milosevic, is an international pariah and indicted war criminal, the West is turning its back on the environmental disaster that NATO's 78-day bombing war left behind.

A year later, the Serbian portion of the Danube, between Bulgaria and Hungary, remains impassable. Debris from a half-dozen shattered bridges continues to clog the waterway, crippling commerce in countries both up and downstream. More troubling--and potentially longer-lasting--are the toxic residues from NATO's high-altitude assault on Serbia's industrial infrastructure. Hidden in the Danube riverbed and lingering in its wetlands, these pollutants have the potential to affect the health and well-being of 85 million Europeans and their descendants in the Danube Basin for decades to come. By its nature war is destructive, but when the war is over the destruction should end.

Many Americans remember the war with Serbia--the dominant state in what is left of Yugoslavia--as a casualty-free conflict (from the U.S. point of view), an immaculate intervention that has long since left their radar screens. To me, though, it was much more personal. Yugoslavia became my adopted country three decades ago, when I met and married a Serb who had come to the United States to get his doctorate. On almost annual visits there, I have enjoyed the loving hospitality of Yugoslav friends and family; together we mourned as the country fell apart.

During last year's war and in its aftermath, our sorrow has turned to anger. Under the U.S.-led NATO onslaught, my Serbian friends saw hospitals and schools damaged, workplaces obliterated, electricity cut off, their economy in tatters. Little wonder they had difficulty believing the leaflets NATO dropped that told them the war was aimed only at Milosevic, to force a halt to the atrocities his thugs were committing against Albanians in Kosovo.

When NATO's bombs slammed into food-processing plants and automobile factories, oil refineries and electrical transformers, they released large quantities of long-lasting chemicals that Americans would not tolerate in the smallest amounts in their own backyards. These toxins, including polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), liquid mercury and vinyl chloride monomer (VCM), made their way not only into the Danube but into the soil and air of this largely agricultural country of 10 million in the heart of Europe.

PCBs, and their toxic chemical relatives, dioxins, have been linked to cancer and other ills and have been banned since 1977 in the United States. Ingested by animals, PCBs bind to fatty tissue and can be passed from fish and game to humans; infants can absorb them with their mothers' milk. When the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency found dioxin-laden soil on the streets of tiny Times Beach, Mo., in 1983, it spent $200 million to clean up the site--and even so, no residents have been allowed to move back.

Closer to home, Washingtonians may recall a basement fire last autumn involving a few ounces of PCB-contaminated oil. It closed the Commerce Department at 14th Street NW for four days and terrified parents of the children enrolled in the building's first-floor day care center. One of those parents, an EPA scientist, told me: "Even one nanogram [a billionth of a gram] per cubic meter is not an appropriate exposure level for children."

In that context, consider what happened in April 1999 when NATO bombs struck the sprawling Zastava car and munitions depot in the Serbian city of Kragujevac--in a region that is home to 320,000 people. More than two tons of oils containing potentially carcinogenic PCBs in the auto plant's paint shop combusted or spilled out to the Lepenica and Velika Morava rivers, tributaries of the Danube that feed reservoirs used for drinking water and irrigation. According to independent scientists from FOCUS, a multinational environmental agency based in Switzerland, and from the Regional Environmental Center in Szentandre, Hungary, the amount of PCBs and dioxins unleashed at Kragujevac was 1,000 times higher than the level that would trigger an environmental emergency--and quick intervention--in Germany.

Unfortunately for the people of Kragujevac--and for anybody downstream--defeated Serbia has neither the technology nor the money to do a proper cleanup.

Also in April 1999, NATO warplanes pounded riverside oil refineries at Novi Sad and the plastics and fertilizer plants in Pancevo, on a tributary of the Danube northeast of Belgrade. The ensuing fires released petroleum byproducts and cancer-causing VCM. Pancevo residents soon suffered what the New York Times described as "a surge of unexplained symptoms," including headaches, rashes and miscarriages. Several Western journalists visiting the area six weeks later became ill and were treated for nausea and respiratory problems.

Downstream from the attacks, residents of Moldova, Romania and Bulgaria watched with alarm as oil slicks and fish kills, some reported to be 50 yards long floated by. They complained to European authorities that they feared toxic particulates from the massive fires would leach into the soil, poison their shared aquifers or end up in Danube River-fed reservoirs.

One of the bombed Pancevo plants used liquid mercury, a highly poisonous metal associated with neurological disorders, to produce chlorine. When scientists from the U.N. Balkan Task Force and FOCUS took riverbed core samples near Pancevo late last summer, they estimated that 50 to 100 kilograms (110 to 200 pounds) of liquid mercury and other byproducts were scattered over a 24,000-square-yard area. They said these agents were "very toxic and highly trans-boundary," and capable of remaining for years in river water and sediment. Both international teams independently found levels of mercury in mussels and aquatic life four times higher than those allowed by food safety standards of the U.N. Food and Agricultural Organization.

In fairness, every international team doing environmental assessments in Yugoslavia has had difficulty distinguishing preexisting damage to soil and water systems from new toxins linked to the war. Long before the bombing, the Danube's viability was under siege from both industrial polluters to the north and from 50 years of lax environmental oversight in Yugoslavia and the former Eastern Bloc nations. Scientists taking core sediment samples after the war have found toxins dating from the '60s, '70s and '80s--including contaminants related to the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear accident. But the NATO bombing unquestionably made the situation worse. Preexisting pollution is no reason to dismiss the environmental fallout from the war; it only makes the case for a cleanup more urgent.

To minimize allied casualties, NATO decided on a bombing campaign whose targets included civilian infrastructure far from the Kosovo front. The economic and ecological consequences of that choice are long-term and potentially devastating. Pollutants recognize no political boundaries--they will not stay put or poison only Serbia. Rather, they are bleeding out, contaminating soil and water, fish and fowl, far from Milosevic's Belgrade.

So who should pay for the necessary cleanup? Serbia, whose per capita income has fallen below that of Albania, long the poorest country in Europe, cannot. It is doubtful that Milosevic would do it if he could, since he is happy to exploit the postwar destruction for his own ends--refusing, for example, an offer from Austria to rebuild one of the bombed bridges over the Danube because he wanted more in reparations from "aggressor nations." Milosevic is a dark force whose murderous policies have left Serbia isolated, defeated and bankrupt, and he is happy to paint anyone in Serbia who opposes his misrule--and this includes most of my Serbian friends--as NATO's pawn.

But the United States is also in something of a state of denial. Two weeks ago at the United Nations, as U.S. Ambassador Richard Holbrooke tried to expel Yugoslavia's representative from a discussion about the future of the Balkans, he referred to Yugoslavia as a "nonexistent state." The United States has repeatedly let it be known that no help will be forthcoming until Milosevic is gone: At a March congressional hearing, Larry Napper, the State Department's coordinator for Eastern European assistance, repeated the Clinton administration's long-standing position: "As long as Milosevic is in power we will not be doing any reconstruction assistance in Serbia."

The people of Serbia are indeed unlucky in their leader--as are the people of Iraq, which was also the target of a high-altitude bombing campaign in the Gulf War's first days. I believe this kind of war from above is wrongheaded and full of hubris, taking a disproportionate toll on civilians. But if we are going to continue to use it as a foreign policy tool, if we target factories, power plants and the rest of the infrastructure of modern industrial society, we should be prepared to take responsibility for the environmental consequences.

When I think about all of this, I keep coming back to my first encounter with Yugoslavia. It was December 1968, and the farmers in my husband's village regaled me with stories from their childhood, when Josip Broz Tito was trying to keep the country from being swallowed by the Soviet bloc. Many remembered American tractors with a picture of two hands clasped in friendship stamped on their sides, and said those big green machines and Ohio "C-192" corn seeds had helped them survive Stalin's punishing blockade of the '50s.

Crowded around one of the village's only televisions, my new Serbian friends cheered as American astronauts spacewalked across the night sky. To these peasants, the acrobatic astronauts, the "helping hands" tractors and the Ohio corn represented the best of American exports.

Does America today believe that the mantle of sole remaining superpower means it can wage war for "humanitarian" reasons--and ignore the human costs? Should the country that led the NATO alliance and dropped 80 percent of the bombs--along with the leaflets that said the enemy was Milosevic, not the Serbian people--just walk away from the mess it helped create? Can America's allies in Europe afford an environmental and economic wasteland festering on their southern border?

I do not think so. It was in America's interests in the '50s to respond to the needs of Yugoslavia--which, after all, was communist--with a creative and generous show of goodwill. So today it is in our long-term interests to project power in the Balkans with an equally creative and generous concern for the people there and the shared environment in which they live.

Joan McQueeney Mitric is a Washington-based writer specializing in health issues.