That's what worries me :a coke sniffer(Bush) for President or Al Gore.

If the States wants to sniff around Taiwan then maybe it is time to sniff around Central America.Seems like another cold war could be brewing.We shall have to see what happens with missile defense.

Turkey Says Minority Rights Worse than Under Serbian Rule


PRISHTINA - Turkey is continuing its initiatives with international organizations to have Turkish accepted again as an official language in Kosovo, where approximately 250,000 of the total population of two million speak Turkish.

In a letter to UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan, Foreign Minister Ismail Cem has expressed serious concern about the situation of our kinsmen in Kosovo and the attitude of the UN administration in the region towards the Turkish community.

Cem said that the interim UN administration in Kosovo has so far displayed an inappropriate attitude with regard to the rights of the Turkish ethnic minority in Kosovo. Pointing out that Turkey had brought this situation to the attention of the UN interim administration in Kosovo on several occasions and had written three letters to the UN special representative in Kosovo, Cem noted that these initiatives had failed to yield any results and the letters had gone unanswered.

Only few thousand people can repute to be ethnic Turks in Kosovo, but many speak Turkish after centuries of Turkish influence in the region.

The Turkish minister that the rights enjoyed the minority by under the UN administration had “started to fall behind even in comparison with the period under the Serbian administration.”

The directives issued by the UN administration in the region restrict the languages to be used in Kosovo to English, Albanian and Serbian, Cem recalled, adding that Turkish was not being used in any administrative activity in the region.

An Internationalist Catechism
Under circumstances which I am unwilling to divulge I have received an explosive document. Supposedly memorised by the inducts of Chatham House and the New Republic, one reading of this document will convince you that the age of sovereign democracy is passed and we must prepare ourselves for the Brave New World of international bureaucratic governance. I was wrong, that's all I can say.

Top Secret –
The Internationalist Catechism
THE BASICS
Who made you?
NATO made me.
Why did We make you?
To love and serve You in this world, and bomb women and children into the next.
What is Peace?
War is Peace.
What is Strength?
Ignorance is Strength.
What is Freedom?
The Balkan Stability Pact is Freedom.
RIGHT AND WRONG
What is wrong?
Ethnic cleansing is wrong.
Is it wrong at all times?
It's wrong at all times when Serbs do it. When Serbs are cleansed it is a prerogative of national security.
Is Racism a sin?
It is a sin when practiced by Balkan unter-menschen.
THE NEW HITLER
What can be compared to the Holocaust?
All Serbian actions can be compared to the holocaust.
What can not be compared to the Holocaust?
Abortion, euthanasia, refusal to resuscitate the elderly in hospitals, the treatment of the American Indians, the clearances of the Australian Aborigines.
Who is the New Hitler?
It depends on the month and year.
Who defines the New Hitler?
The American President, as an extra-constitutional power, can define the New Hitler.
What are the attributes of the New Hitler?
The New Hitler is foreign, stubborn and resistant to Our beneficial designs.
WAR CRIMES
What is the highest war crime?
Resisting Our Will.
What are not war crimes?
It is not a war crime to bomb a passenger train, blow up a television station, starve half a million children, flatten an aspirin factory, aid and abet drug dealers, decimate refugee convoys, arm terrorist organisations and then lie about it all.
Why are they not war crimes?
Because we pay the cost of the tribunals.
THE EVILS OF ISOLATION
What are Isolationists?
Isolationists are vicious, backward looking and popular.
Don't you mean populist?
Oops
Why do Isolationists oppose war?
Isolationists oppose war, because they want war.
Why are Isolationists racists?
Isolationists are racist because they oppose killing foreigners.
Why do Isolationists hate their own country?
Because they do not want their own country in needless foreign wars.
Why are Isolationists like Hitler?
Hitler went on aggressively expansionist wars in the process bringing his country's moral standing and economy to unbelievable depths. So the isolationists must be for that.
Why are Isolationists evil?
Because We say they are.
Why can We say this?
Because We are in charge. http://www.antiwar.com/goldstein/g-col.html

And such extremism will convince whom? Exactly?
If Anti-war are trying to convince Westerners of the evils of their governments and national/international organisations, they are hardly going to achieve it by sounding like a bunch of crazed loons.
(Anyone here converted to Catholicism yet?-grin)
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Hi all, I'm back. And this will amuse the religious ones amoungst us, my house, phoneline, phone and modem were struck by lightening!!!
Make of that what you will, my Catholic French neighbours were hit too.
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"Mary I have a hard time feeling any sympathy for them in lieu of the atrocities the Chechens
committed themselves.How do we know they were Russians who did that?I posted a story last week I
think where the Chechens were using Ukrainian Nationalists, since they look Russian to carry out
killings,video tape them and then blame the Russians.Also we heard all the same stories in Kosovo which were never proven."

- Igor, stop looking at things as "us and them"! Then you might get a clearer understanding of truth! You taught me that!!! ( 10 months of Nato bashing at your fair hands)

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I see the "Grey Councel" have joined us. Who could argue with the Mimbari.(or in Mimbari for that matter). I quote mr Guns: "Say what you mean, mean what you say." Good to see you, oh vague Queen of the known Universe.

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RE Antonio: And only as I have the honour of being named in his email to THX..
I make no secret of the fact that I find most of what he has to say offensive.
He finds my very existance as an Atheist offensive.
The thing is: We both believe in what we are saying. Antonio is not a "Fake/Jake" just out to provoke for the sake of it. Neither am I.
On the other hand there is no way we are ever going to understand each other or convince each other. b{I just wonder if banning people is the solution, Antonio or anyone else will just come back under a different ID/IP.}

Removing offensive posts?- Maybe, but who decides what is offensive?
Yahoo has an Ignore poster option- Would that be possible at DMS. Ansen? L'menexe? Anyone?
That way if people can't agree to disagree, they do not have to continue to read what they find offensive, but do not prevent others from posting or reading posts. And just think if we all agreed to ignore a post!!- This would make the decision democratic at least.

Kim

So Syria leader Hafez Esad died, and his fate is now in the hand of God.

The TV clips after his death transmitted from Syria, have given me an opportunity for a good look on these so called MUSLIM people. It was shameful. It is amazing to see how far some of these can be from Islam.

Indeed some Westerners, who are not Muslims, are closer to Islam, in their actions, than some of these Syrians.

In Islam, we say "LA ILAHE ILLALLAH", meaning, there is only one God.

As a person who raised with Western values, that single sentence is so liberating for me. Its meaning is so clear to me.

Yet I see in the "so called" Islamic countries, people are treating their leaders as if they are Gods. For example, parlamentarians are voting for the son of Hafez by cutting their fingers and voting YES with their blood. People are falling in their knees and kissing feet of anybody, they believe has power.

As a muslim, I feel ashamed of these people calling themselves Muslim. These people are so far removed from Islam, yet they call themselves Muslim, and give a bad name to Islam.

Prophet has predicted that his followers will be far removed from Islam, and there will be shame for them in this world and the next, until they return to Islam. This is exactly what happening now.

Real Islam, as in the days of Prophet Mohammed will rise, and then it will take hold of the world, because it has the best values for the well being and salvation of humanity.

Looks like we are entering an era of l'menexe debate. Is he Mussollini or not?

While everyone is thinking this important subject over - l'menexe can not be a culprit. If he owns this message board then it's clearly his and no one else's discretion to set the TOS and enforce them as he wishes. If he does not, then it's not possible for him to block anyone.

if st. tony believes his words he will happily take them somewhere else.
how ironic that the fellow who repeatedly posted that 'destroy america' bit [at least 3x] would now claim his rights =as an AMERICAN= were somehow denied him.
_no one_ is taking into account his extended off-topic posts, which in theory shouldnt have been here in the first place, because they had no relation to the chechen conflict.
nor did they ever.

i will draw the line, finally, after at least 6 months, at jews eating sh*t on this page. thank you very much.

i too have rights.

Several days ago I alluded to presenting ANTONIO a fitting award for the "ANTONIO SHOW." Is this action by DMS fitting? You be the judge.

KIMMIE BABES:

Perhaps you miss-understood my posting as relates to the travisties being committed in Chechnya.

My position is that the innocent is made to suffer at the hands of whom ever, ie., kidnapping, torture, raping, murder, total destruction of homes, looting etc, etc. I strongly believe that those responsible whether Muslim, Russian, Chechans, police, bandits, military etc, should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of Russian law for these atrocities.

>>>>By Mask ( - 208.216.242.146) on Wednesday, July 12, 2000 - 08:25 am:
Looks like we are entering an era of l'menexe debate. Is he Mussollini or not?

While everyone is thinking this important subject over - l'menexe can not be a culprit. If he owns this message board then it's clearly his and no one else's discretion to set the TOS and enforce them as he wishes. If he does not, then it's not possible for him to block anyone. >>>>

Mask,
Your point sounds logical. However, assuming L'menexe owns this message board, and he set TOS in such a way, cutting anyone out if he does not agree with the content of that person's message, than it is a serious matter.

I for one will not put up with a person, bringing KGB into any board which is suppose to facilitate discussion on the topic.

If L'menexe owns this board, I will remove myself voluntarily of this board. No joke!

And what if L'menexe does not own this board?

The low life goyim Antonio was punished for insulting the chosen people. We Jews can not and will not tolerate, nasty statements about us in the media.

Let this also be a warning to Igor.

Igor,

On your knees and beg the Sephardic for forgiveness. (Begging comes naturally to Russians)OR PAY THE PRICE.

Yeah yeah blow it out your arse Barnswein we all heard your threats before.You're lack a barking dog all bark and no bite.Come and teach me I am anxious for my lesson.How's your HO Tammy still working for free.

Yeah yeah blow it out your arse Barnswein we all heard your threats before.You're like a barking dog all bark and no bite.Come and teach me I am anxious for my lesson.How's your HO Tammy still working for free.