jo m

that was take 3.. kept typing and wiping it out.

fellow posters, please respond.

By L'menexe ( - 172.145.40.204) on Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 11:24 am:
BER-STEEEN:
speaking for myself, you are a vile creature who does not deserve to post at DMS.
*you are not jewish; you are a RAHOWA WHITE SUPREMACIST SOCIOPATHIC SCUMBAG.
*you have NEVER ADDRESSED

Who the hell are you to talk, stupid goyim animal. You are nothing but a beast. My mother is a gentile, but my father is of the Sephardic, like his father before. Who are you too say I am not Jewish. The Sephardic are the best of all Judiasm. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. i hold the sword of truth and justice. We must all unite to get rid of the filthy Russian Igor

mary:
no, i wont.
i wont.

ber-STEEEN:

what you fail to understand is, we are far more likely to unite to GET RID OF YOU.


hitler was half-jewish too, wasnt he?

Who the hell are you to talk, stupid goyim animal. You are nothing but a beast. My mother is a gentile, but my father is of the Sephardic, like his father before. Who are you too say I am not Jewish. The Sephardic are the best of all Judiasm. BERNSWEIN I THINK THIS MAKES YOU A GOYEM YOU FUUCKING LOSER.HOW'S YOUR ARSE TODAY GET OUT OF THE HOSPITAL DID YOU?

G-8 Tells Russia: Manage Without Investment
2326 GMT, 000725

Summary

Russian President Vladimir Putin went to the Group of Eight (G-8) Summit on July 21 seeking debt forgiveness. Instead, he came away with a warning about money laundering. Putin hoped for a vote of confidence that would spur private investment. Now, if Putin is to convince foreigners to invest in Russia, he must simultaneously keep Russia’s reform process on track, quietly cooperate with the West and reinforce his own political base. And he must do all of this without appearing to coddle Western interests – the mistake of his predecessor, Boris Yeltsin.

Analysis

Russian President Vladimir Putin traveled to the Group of Eight (G-8) summit on July 21 seeking debt forgiveness. However, the world’s richest countries flatly rejected any forgiveness before Putin’s plane even entered Japanese airspace. Now, if Putin is to convince foreigners to invest in Russia, he must do three things simultaneously. First, he must keep Russia’s reform process on track, complete with the inflationary pressures they entail. Second, he must quietly cooperate with the West on an array of issues so that the West is more inclined to invest in Russia. And third, Putin must reinforce his own political base at home and secure interim funding, buying time for the first two strategies to work.

Putin entered the G-8 summit claiming that if the West did not forgive much of Russia’s $42 billion Paris Club debt, then Russia’s economic reforms would fail under the crushing weight of debt repayments – 30 to 40 percent of Russia’s budget revenues, according to Prime Minister Mikhail Kasyanov. The West refused to forgive the debt – with the exception of a token bilateral deal from Germany to defer payment on $3.82 billion. More importantly, it also refused to even consider restructuring the debt. Putin needed the West to express approval with his reform efforts, through either debt forgiveness or restructuring. This vote of confidence should have then triggered new Western investment. Instead, the G-8 scared investment off by labeling Russia a money-laundering center and threatening retaliatory measures.

This will only complicate matters for Putin at home. His entire reform strategy depends upon substantial foreign investment. Putin has already initiated many painful legal and economic reforms that threaten to overwhelm the fragile Russian economy with spiraling inflation to attract investment. The reforms have infuriated almost every power group within Russia. Already the regional governors are threatening to veto the Kremlin’s tax package. Meanwhile, the oligarchs are jointly preparing for a meeting with Putin scheduled for July 28. While Putin still holds the upper hand over each group, they are beginning to band together and could potentially threaten the president.

The Russian government must continue day-to-day efforts to attract investment. Prime Minister Kasyanov established a Russian-American Business Cooperation Council on July 24 to help standardize economic links between the two countries. Another task is improving Russia’s notoriously weak legal system. In this, the prosecution of Russia’s oligarchs bolsters the Kremlin and impresses potential investors. And in perhaps the most significant move to date, Russian and Swiss authorities agreed July 24 to share information regarding cases against the oligarch’s oligarch, Boris Berezovsky, according to Swiss Radio International.

More importantly, Putin must find a way to convince the West to invest – without falling into the Yeltsin trap of appearing the stooge. Since Putin now knows that Russia cannot convince the West to forgive debt or invest, he will recruit one of their own to lobby on Russia’s behalf – Germany. Politically, Germany has the strongest links with Russia.

Economically, Germany is Russia’s second-largest trading partner as well as largest creditor. The German government and German banks together hold more than half of all Russian debt, about $56 billion. Therefore, Germany has a direct financial stake in keeping Russia solvent, thus the token restructuring agreement. Berlin will try to prompt the West into granting Moscow a more conciliatory hearing.

Germany is already acting as Russia’s lobbyist. German sources reported that Putin has already told Germany he considers Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic a problem and that Milosevic can no longer automatically count upon Moscow to come to his aid, reported Agence France Presse July 22.

Russia has extended this strategy beyond Europe. Nonproliferation talks are ongoing between Russia and North Korea, a move that ingratiates Russia with Japan – another major creditor and potential source of investment.

By demonstrating Russia’s willingness to play a constructive role, Putin shows he can help reform former rogue states while increasing Russia’s international stature. Both of which increase the Moscow’s value in Western capitals. However, the president cannot afford to use domestic issues to cater to Western interests. For instance, Chechnya will be kept off the table.

No matter how well crafted, Putin’s strategy will produce no investment in the short term. Even if investment flooded in today, it would be several months before the Russian economy would noticeably improve.

Putin, therefore, must take steps to consolidate control. The easiest method of doing so is to continue prosecuting the oligarchs. First, it fosters a fear of, and respect for, Russian law enforcement agencies. Second, oligarch bashing plays very well with ordinary Russians, thereby deflecting hard questions about an inflationary economy. Third, the threat of prosecutions allows the state to wring extra cash out of individuals who have dodged the taxman for years. Fourth, it recovers assets that can be auctioned to more profitable and reliable foreign investors – who pay their taxes. The money generated will help the government buy off a population suffering from rising inflation.

Finally, Putin must persevere with one of the policies that brought him to power: the war in Chechnya. Despite steadily rising casualties, the war remains popular throughout the Federation. To prevent dissent, Putin must produce results, necessitating ever more brutal actions.

Putin needs to buy himself at least a year for investment to materialize and then to begin producing real economic growth. Previous one-shot measures have already bought him some time, but until Western investment shows up, Russia’s economy – beset by inflation and infighting – will only weaken further. In the meantime Russia’s economy remains dangerously vulnerable to external shocks such as another Asian crash or a drop in oil prices. Even assuming that the investment shows up at all, Russia faces a long, harsh road.

Mr Berstein,

As you may have guessed, there has been some discussion re the contents of your posts.
I have previously said, that i am not in favour of banning people, I would rather see posts removed that are as offensive as yours.
However I feel in this case that L'menexe and Igor have taken more than enough of your pointless attacks. They are fully within their rights to complain to DMS about you.

I think you will find that we are all in agreement here, that you have as yet not posted anything regarding Chechnia, that you attack people for no apparent reason, and that you are simply abusive with no apparent interest in anything other than hurting people.
I remain opposed to banning people for their strongly held beliefs, but in your case you don't seem to have any beliefs.You are also posing as something you are not to incite hatred.(A crime where I live!)

If this continues, I will support whatever measures neccesary to remove your dispicable comments from this board.

I would think carefully before you respond to this,your posts are being watched very carefully.

Igor,
I think I'm beginning to like Mr Putin.
Do you think he said that about Milosovich cause he means it, or just to butter up the Germans?

Is Putin still mediating on Serbia's behalf? or has the point of Nato's misdemeanors been made?

Jo

HI L'MENEXE:

Please clarify.....11:31 am post. ?????

ms. mary:

as much as i very much want to, i have not, at
this point in time, made a formal complaint in
regards to ber-STEEEN. and that is what i meant.

however, in tandem w/ms.jo, we did ask for the
deletion of one particular post of his.

in the hopes you'll understand this..

My posts are ONLY directed at Igor and lazy Russians. OTHER PERSONS MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS OK.

The Sephardic are Never intimidated by goyim

Yes, but Jake, unfortunately, the rest of us have no choice but to see them as well. Particularly when you use oversized fonts. We who have discussed this are ALL offended by them.

If you take issue with Igor or any of the russians here, why don't you try to form cohesive arguments. Your rantings to date have impressed no-one. If not don't come here and you won't have to deal with Russians at all.

Now I am being a hell of a lot more reasonable with you than you deserve. We have tried to warn you, from here on the consequences are on your own head.

as if that makes any difference;

thin ice
getting
thinner

you are a disgrace to the sephardic. and a
disgrace to world jewry.
=====
how do your RAHOWA pals feel about you, anyway?
or, in their company, are you 'half-gentile'?

jo,
first line of mine was meant for last line of his.

I gathered that was the case,L',but thanks!
check mail in a mo.