L'menexe I know all this stuff has been rehashed but I am wondering why Milosvic is painted as a war criminal.All he did was try to restore law and order and put down a revolt of the KLA(terrorists).Milosovic was indited for crimes in Kososvo not the other conflicts,in fact they signed the Dayton accords with him.If anything he is to be commended for his actions otherwise Serbia would have disitegrated without a fight.At least he stood up for territorial integrity of Yugoslavia.I personally believe that the west wanted Yugoslavia disbanded and when Milosovic did not cry uncle the fermented civil disobedience and fueled the insurrections for the NWO.If the west thinkss that they will do the same in Central Asia and Russia they will be sadly mistaken as Russia has drawn the line in the sand.Unfortunately Europe will pay if the US continues this policy against Russia.

igor...
not being contentious; just dazed as variations on
WW1 and WW2 persist....and persist...and etc.

it's in your last few lines as well, comrade.


[don't look at me, i just live here]

gm,
err..sure, numbers, whatever. That battle was won with against one of the best tanks of that times(tigers, panters, blah-blah). But it's not the point. The battle was won by Soviets against the superior army. But that's not the point either. The battle was won by Russians. The war litterlally was won by Soviets who held majority of Hitler forces, while the US waited(read the article I've posted few days ago for All American). And waited. And waited. Until Hitler kept on throwing forces to the East. Then the brave minority jumped in. Hurray!

Re: Africa. Majority of forces that beat Rommell were the Brites.

L'menexe I guess when it is your countrymen that it is happening to then you will look at it from a slightly different slant.

By Diem X ( - 172.145.105.57) on Sunday, June 25, 2000 - 07:12 pm:err..sure, numbers, whatever. That battle was won with against one of the best tanks of that times(tigers, panters, blah-blah). But it's not the point. The battle was won by Soviets against the superior army. But that's not the point either.The battle was won by Russians. The war litterlally was won by Soviets who held majority of Hitler forces, while the US
waited(read the article I've posted few days ago for All American). And waited. And waited. Until Hitler kept on throwing forces to the East. Then the brave minority jumped in. Hurray!
Re: Africa. Majority of forces that beat Rommell were the Brites.

Bravo, comrade! Nobody could possibly put it better - overwhelming majority in numbers and Germans are still superior.

Other stuff you wrote is just plain silly, but in "not the point" part you outdone yourself.

gm,
sure, comrade, they were superior, in terms of military technology, I just had no idea that not only I need to feed you, I also need to chew it for ya. How silly of me! Silly, s i l l y me.

Don't take it too personally. Maybe you should find someone who gives a fucck and start your not- so-silly(LOL) game of numbers. Another words: Idi popisai, comrade!

btw, when are you going to quit changing names, ya silly'ol geekster?

HI KIMMY BABES...Not to worry about the damage to my dump truck from that run away tank.. Versicherung zahlt. So how was your weekend, anything good happen? Kimmy, your the first I'm telling this to, I'm experiencing a strange transformation, so severe in fact the next time we get together er kennen Sie mich.

Anyways, Ihr fur immer Freund have a great day and I'll call you later at home to bring you up to date.

Uhum, I think I will!

Hope the transformation isn't too painful;
Kim

The first show of the documentary film Slave Market is to be held in the British capital today. It is devoted to the fate of innocent people who were taken hostage and turned into actual slaves by the gangs of terrorists which operated on the territory of Chechnya. The film was made on the initiative of the Alliance of the Peoples of the Caucasus (ANK) - a non-government movement for peace and stability in the Caucasian region.


Representatives of world mass media accredited in Great Britain will gather in the cinema hall of the London-based Foreign Press Association. The authors of the film, ANK members - TV journalist Dmitry Konchalovsky and journalist of the Izvestia newspaper Oleg Blotsky will answer their questions. Former hostages and slaves - businessman Kirill Perchenko and Magomed Chaguchiyev, Professor of Mathematics and the chairman of the ANK, will participate in the debate. Magomed Chaguchiyev spent several horrible weeks in the same dungeon with three British and a New Zealand communication engineers who were then beheaded by the Chechen bandits.


Aide to the President of Russia Sergei Yastrzhembsky will participate in the presentation of the film to the international journalist corps.

Igor,
I certainly agree with obvious factual capacity of your post. This is especially true when analyzing the magnatude of the Eastern Front in World War II. The massive troop deployments on both sides speak for themselves.
General Comments:
I think the United States' involvement in World War II has an invisible quality contrary to the explicit "truth" etched within the American collective consciousness. The United States positioned herself in a way to conflict with the Soviets, and therefore, materializing into the COld War. I believe the United States was jockeying herself into a more influential position in global affairs AFTER THE WAR. So I don't believe the involvement in Europe was seen as a short term accomplishment. If this were the case, the United States would have opened the Western Front at a much earlier time. However, the glorification of the liberation of Europe is seen as an equal objective to the strides taken in the Pacific Theater. What's even more troubling with this distortion of history is that to change such a strong collective conviction is almost an impossible task.

i think the US 'jockeyed itself' as a post-war
_by-product_, as opposed to 'with intent'
they'd just got out from under the depression.

prior to the war, how 'influential' had they
wanted to be? [lol, outside of picking on south
america every so often]
===
and really, gang, historical revision of WW2 is
only _beginning_.
===
and igor....is this 'righteous vengeance', as you
allude to, and seemingly anticipate, going to make
_anything_ better?

and no, i'm not fighting, okay? i read almost all
of your material.

Residents of the Chechen Republic continue giving in arms and ammo on their own accord, the Military News Agency learned from the Interior Ministry temporary press centre in the North Caucasus on Monday.


Two locals of the Khatuni village (Vedeno district) handed in 20 kilos of TNT to the law enforcement on Sunday, a press centre official said. Another 30 kilos of explosives were handed over by the dwellers of Tsa-Vedeno, Urzan and Agishbatoi villages.


Following a prior report, the militia have exposed a dug-in IFV in the vicinity of Oktyabrskoye.


According to the Interior Ministry, since the beginning of 2000 the law enforcement officers in Chechnya have liquidated over 2,000 illegal oil refineries, extracted and rendered harmless 2,400 explosive devices, over 51,000kg of explosives. During the same period the police have detained 11,170 violators (including 569 wanted in federal search) and 1,153 participants of the illegal armed formations.

Putin's honeymoon will be over shortly

Chechnya is a small country, about 160 kilometers long and 100 kilometers wide. It is impractical and often virtually impossible to
maintain large guerrilla formations hiding in the hills. So the rebels actually maintain only a small core of seasoned fighters at any given
time. But when any major operation begins, this core of fighters is joined by hundreds and sometimes thousands of well-armed, battle-ready
volunteers, which allows the rebels to achieve local manpower superiority and the ability of launching punishing attacks on military
units.

A trademark of such Chechen attacks was the assault on the Chechen capital, Grozny, in August 1996, when several hundred rebels entered the
well-guarded city (where the military garrison was more than 10,000 strong). The attack seemed suicidal, but the number of armed rebels in
Grozny swiftly proliferated to 10,000 or more; the Russian garrison was overwhelmed, and the war ended in a victory for the Chechens.

Today, continued effective rebel attacks on military columns have forced the command to impose strict convoy instructions: avoid travel in small numbers and without armor, avoid travel at night in bad weather when close air support is impossible. The federal force in Chechnya has
become increasingly immobile and defensive in its posture. Military forces are occupying hundreds of fortified garrisons disseminated
throughout Chechnya, awaiting attack every night, not knowing for certain where the enemy is and in what strength; the rebels are agile, can concentrate forces for deadly attack and then disappear.

Manilov may be right in his assessment of the number of fighters at "a maximum of 3,000," but their number can swell rapidly. As the federal
forces in Chechnya are cut back, a serious Chechen counteroffensive that may rock the foundations of the Putin regime becomes not only possible, but almost inevitable.

HI YA IGOR...Once again I find myself confused and would grately appreciate the opportunity to delve into your expertise to find an answer.

I refer to your last posting in which you point out the cooperation of citizens in Chechen Republics to turn in arms. This coupled with yesterdays statement by General Gennady Troshev, who, as you know, is Russia's Military Big Cheese Chechnya, said that the ninth-month conflict, (I thought it was a war) against separarists was all but over. Russian troops "are not to undertake attacks and not to carry out air or artillery strikes." This would lead one to believe that perhaps this worthless military undertaking is now going to end.

However, despite OL Gennady's pledge, Russian aircraft flew 42 combat missions and heavy artillery strikes in the past 24 hours. Bomb laden fixed wing aircraft flew 12 missions and missle firing helicopters flew 30 missions, all returning to base without armaments. "What gives with that?"

Igor, I don't quite understand this military double-speak, therefore, with you being a former Russian solider, might you kindly provide me with some claification which would put my confusion to rest. Thank you

Playing Gods:
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