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(@hairymary)
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Must hold a deposition for rest of the day. I'm humble enough to extend an olive branch, wonder if someone is man enough to accept


   
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KIM
I post what I believe are the facts not what suits my agenda just as you do and everybody else here.I am a Russian Nationalist and proud of it.I must say I have followed the situations in Chechnya and Kosovo for a very long time and I know that what I am talking about is now backed up by facts.I also have read news from many other sources.Not to mention my family is from Rostov-On-Don so we know from experience what these Chechens are all about.I also have Serb friends who were over there and told me first hand about the kidnappings in murders in Kosovo.So do not tell me I am not objective because there is nothing any of you has said or posted here that is backed up with irrefutable evidence that has changed my opinion.It seems to me with the amount of evidence presented to you that you people are the ones that are narrow minded and brainwashed by western media.Both the wars are totally justified and the struggle will continue until these people will respect law and order.


   
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The Russian VID TV-company will today present its film "Slaves' Market" at the Italian office of the ADN Cronus news agency in Rome. The film gives an account of kidnapping, slave-trade and the current developments in Chechnya.


The film will be followed by a news conference which will gather Italian journalists, diplomats and public figures. Delegates of the Union of Caucasian Peoples public organisation and officials from the presidential aide's administration on Chechnya arrived in Rome to join the presentation together with the film crew. The delegation also includes two former hostages liberated from Chechen captivity.


   
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A large rebel unit has been utterly defeated near the village of Serzhen-Yurt, Colonel General Gennady Troshev, Commander of the United Grouping of federal forces in Chechnya, told the press on Friday.


Over 100 rebels were killed in an operation launched on June 26, he said. Khattab's right hand man Abu Aiwalit was one of them.


"A mopping up operation is underway in that area. Numerous dead bodies of rebels, weapons, a lot of ammunition and two food depots have been found," Troshev said.


Arab mercenaries made the backbone of the rebel unit, Troshev said. The rebels had for a long time been amassing in that area to attack the Chechen valley, he said.


The bodies of terrorists known far outside Chechnya" have been found, Troshev said.


   
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Well I am off to Toronto see you guys later.


   
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(@L'menexe)
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ms. mary.

branch accepted.

so can we let sleeping gross pigs lie?
[no reference to toi.]

peas in the valley.


   
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OBNINSK, Russia –– In the recent semiannual military draft, 50 young men, or about half the conscripts in this run-down town 60 miles southwest of Moscow, refused to serve.
But when authorities decided to crack down, they chose only one suspect for prosecution: a 26-year-old computer programmer with a long history of fighting conscription. Dmitri Neverovsky spent 146 days in prison for refusing to enter the army, and although he has been released on a court order, he remains under investigation, vulnerable at any time to another trial and another spell behind bars. In effect, he lives in internal exile, a peculiar form of punishment springing up in recent politically charged cases

Neverovsky said he refused to serve on anti-militarist grounds--that the army, by nature, is repressive. "Our army has been used to oppress citizens, in Soviet times and now," said Neverovsky. He likened the war in secessionist Chechnya to efforts by the Soviet Union's Red Army to put down independence movements in the Baltic States and Georgia.
He rejected the government's argument that the war in Chechnya is a life-and-death struggle against banditry and terror. "There are as many bandits in the Ural Mountains as in Chechnya," he asserted


   
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(@betterthanyou)
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Igor,
No I was speaking of Mike Tyson.

Mary,
Don't worry sweetie your posts don't bother me. You can rant and rave all you would like. I think you have proven you intelligence here and should be able to post at will whatever crosses your mind.


   
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(@suleyman)
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THX1138,
First off, I'd like to say that my frustration regarding American politics (mainly the two-party system in relation to the represenation of constituency) has driven me towards moderate levels of psychosis. However, it is foolish to administer such maniacal convictions against our country. I could list several responses to your statements, but alas, I don't have the patience or time to do such. I must concede that workers are exploited in this country and deserve more. However, labor regulations have improved the state of capitalism. You state the current conditions as if deformed women and children still work in the savage conditions of steel mills. It's so easy just to denounce all the ideals of America. I could do this just as easily as you. For that matter, anyone could. I see that many of your compositions consist of collective perception. Based on this, I am led to believe that you have done much reading in the realm of Marx's idea of ideology and the public's recourse by class consciousness. If that's the case, we have much to talk about. However, judging by your previously anger-driven passages, the chance of receiving a civilized response is highly unlikely.


   
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Sulyman
Thank you, time and patience is a virtue, a very valuable commodity and I think it would be wasted trying to explain political views, theory and analysis on thx. He only looks at things from his perspective. His knowledge is not empirical but of swayed anger against a prolific nation. I guess in turn this stems from jealousy and his own misfortune. He is like your typical blue collar worker always against managment no matter how well they treat them.


   
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thx,
I have to agree with you on this one but it also goes to prove that you live under the wing of protection of the US, the nation you love to hate so well.
YOUR POSTING:
As for gun laws, there is no difference between the Republocrats and the Demicans. Both are fronts for the regime and all the "gun-laws" are designed to make it impossible for anyone except criminals and regime forces to have weapons.
The U.S.A. Constitution forbids the regime from infringing on the right of the people to keep and bear arms. Registrations and lisences etc. and restrictions on pistol grips, bayonet holders, high capacity magazines, full-auto capability etc. are all infringements against the people's right and a violation by the regime against the U.S.A. Constitution. This just goes to show that the U.S. regime can never be trusted to honor or abide by any of its agreements or contracts, as the Indians well know.
Oh and by the way, I couldn't even imagine this country being run by mexicans, they can't even run their own country. The US has given them billions, tried to do nothing but help them and look at their counrty, corrupt and poverty stricken. They have a land of great natural resources and riches and they have no clue how to develop it. And you wonder why the US took land away from them.


   
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(@suleyman)
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Betterthan,
Your advice is much appreciated. Sometimes I get worked up dealing with absolutists. I am confident that you can empathize with such rash actions.


   
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Sulyman,
Hey no problem. I know how ya feel. I sometimes have to keep myself in check realizing that there is just no use arguing with idiots. That's why I try to keep 99.999999% of my posts nuetral, sometimes humorous, and childish. Man some people just take life to damn serious. Being to serious of couse is known to exacerbate life as well as cause premature death. I'd like to jump on the "serious" band wagon sometime but life is just to damn short and I don't have the time... Take a deep breath, smile and say this guy is a dumbass!!!!


   
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(@thx1138)
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By Suleyman ( - 216.173.66.98) on Friday, June 30, 2000 - 11:59 am:
THX1138,
First off, I'd like to say that my frustration regarding American politics (mainly the two-party system in relation to the represenation of constituency) has driven me towards moderate levels of psychosis. However, it is foolish to administer such maniacal convictions against our country. I could list several responses to your statements, but alas, I don't have the patience or time to do such. I must concede that workers are exploited in this country and deserve more. However, labor regulations have improved the state of capitalism. You state the current conditions as if deformed women and children still work in the savage conditions of steel mills. It's so easy just to denounce all the ideals of America. I could do this just as easily as you. For that matter, anyone could. I see that many of your compositions consist of collective perception. Based on this, I am led to believe that you have done much reading in the realm of Marx's idea of ideology and the public's recourse by class consciousness. If that's the case, we have much to talk about. However, judging by your previously anger-driven passages, the chance of receiving a civilized response is highly unlikely.




The best thing then would be to eliminate the politicians and the political parties. They serve only as fig leaves for the real intentions and purposes of the regime.

Your reference to "maniacle convictions" just goes to show how cowardly and unwilling Americans are in refusing to solve the problems that they even recognize.

I do not buy any of Marx's b.s. Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, Fascism, Republicanism and Democracy are all the same totalitarianism, brainwashing and living death packaged under different brand names like cigarettes.

It is not surprising that Americans allot to themselves the right to respond in anger according to their whims (as in the case of Japan, Iraq and Yugoslavia) but attempt to discredit people who refuse to kow tow to their bullying and imperialism and who expose the American lies as *angry* people.


   
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By betterthanyou ( - 152.163.201.206) on Thursday, June 29, 2000 - 10:33 pm:
THX, you watch to many movies.




I have been to the movies about 5 times in the last 8 years. I think I will go watch Mel Gibson tonight in "Patriot".


   
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