nonono, lady's first..
😉

how many bullets?
:o)

he..I dunno about quanity, but I'll take a rubber one(s), thankyouverymuch..

I guess I'm not that crazy afterall..

ok, I am gone fishin', have a great night, darlin' 😉

By Kisako ( - 192.114.47.50) on Tuesday, March 14, 2000 - 07:43 am:

>Some priests are saying that acquiring an
>Individual Taxpayer Number (ITN) constitutes a
>sin, and unless believers repent, they would be
>denied Holy Communion.
>* The whole post of this author is the most
>childish BS arg, - following the article I gathered
>that, for instance, the US whole will be denied
>Holy Communion on the basis of their Social
>Security Number system. Heh.

Notwithstanding the 2 million Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Church members in U.S. regime-occupied territory, the people in the territory are already denied Holy Communion, as there are only a few hundred functioning Roman Catholic chapels and a few dozen churches remaining. What you believe to be the Catholic Church is really not the Catholic Church, but the Novus Ordo cult which was officially founded by Apostate Pope Paul VI in 1969. The foundation for this false New-Age church calling itself "Catholic" was laid by Vatican Council II, which was neither a dogmatic council nor possessing any authority, but a "pastoral" council, which was the first of its kind in history.
The statistic of 60 million Catholics in America and 1 billion Catholics in the world is often thrown around in the press, but the fact is that there are only about 200,000 Roman Catholics in U.S. -occupied New Spain and New France, and about 1 million Roman Catholics in the world. John Paul II himself is not Catholic, nor was he ever Catholic, but from his infancy always held to heretical beliefs. When Karol Wojtyla was a teenager he used to play soccer on the Jews team against the Polish Catholics. He has always believed in the heretical ideas of Teilhard de Chardin and Hans Kung, among others. Wojtyla has always believed in Ecumenism (heresy), Syncretism (heresy), Liberalism (heresy), and Modernism (heresy).

The "mass", or liturgy performed by the Novus Ordo cult expresses not the True Catholic Faith, which is only expressed in the Tridentine Latin Mass (at which the priest's back is to the people). Ten years ago there were only 2 legitimate Roman Catholic bishops - Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre (France) and Archbishop Antonio Castro de Meyer (Brazil). Archbishop Lebebvre consecrated 4 bishops and one Novus Ordo bishop from the Filippines has since
converted back to traditional Roman Catholicism. People should not remain confused about this. The Novus Ordo cult is essentially a Protestant cult and was formed in the exact same manner as the Anglican and Lutheran cults. This is why there are all the cases of child molestation by priests in the Novus Ordo. It is because there is not the grace of God in the Novus Ordo cult, just as there is no grace in any of the Protestant cults.

For more information on the difference between the Roman Catholic Church and the Novus Ordo cult, see http://www.traditio.com

I applaud the Russian Orthodox clergy for their bravery in fighting against the reign of the Antichrist and the Mark of the Beast, which is the framework of the UPC barcode.

It is easy to understand why Our Lady of Fatima called for the Consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart. In the U.S., they print dollars with occultic Egyptian pyramids with the Satanic eye over them and Kabbalist hexagrams and zodiac rings and all-seeing-in-the-night owls and eagles with 32 and 33-feathered wings taking away peace (13 leaf olive-branch) and disarming the people (13 arrows). In Russia and Ukraine, they print rubles and grivyen with pictures of Orthodox churches.

As the Virgin Mary said to the three children in Fatima (Francisco, Jacinta, and Sister Lucia), God will make Russia the salvation of the world, assuming the Pope and all the Catholic bishops consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of the Virgin Mary, but if they refuse to consecrate Russia, then Russia shall be God's instrument of chastisement against the evil world.

Right on Ruskies!
Kick that Mohammedan Bandit Butt!!!

By All American ( - 194.170.2.29) on Tuesday, March 14, 2000 - 11:01 am:

>Kissako;

>Exactly you are a Jew! LOL.

>Egypt is the second largest recipient of US AID.

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By Kisako ( - 192.114.47.50) on Tuesday, March 14, 2000 - 11:59 am:

>By All American ( - 194.170.2.29) on Tuesday, >March 14, 2000 - 11:01 am:
>Kissako;
>Exactly you are a Jew! LOL.
>Egypt is the second largest recipient of US AID.
>* First largest. Heh.

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The Difference between Jews and Egyptians before Christ is the Difference between Gentiles and Jews in the Time of Christ,

The Spirit, and the blessing promised to Abraham cometh not by the law, but by faith.

From St. Paul's Epistle to the Galatians
Chapter 3:

6 As it is written: Abraham believed God: and it was reputed to him unto justice.
7 Know ye, therefore, that they who are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God justifieth the Gentiles by faith, told unto Abraham before: In thee shall all nations be blessed.
9 Therefore, they that are of faith shall be blessed with faithful Abraham.
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse. For it is written: Cursed is every one that abideth, not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
11 But that in the law no man is justified with God, it is manifest: because the just man liveth by faith.
12 But the law is not of faith: but he that doth those things shall live in them.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us (for it is written: Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree).
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Christ Jesus: that we may receive the promise of the Spirit by faith.
15 Brethren (I speak after the manner of man), yet a man's testament, if it be confirmed, no man despiseth nor addeth to it.
16 To Abraham were the promises made and to his seed. He saith not: And to his seeds as of many. But as of one: And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17 Now this I say: that the testament which was confirmed by God, the law which was made after four hundred and thirty years doth not disannul, to make the promise of no effect.
18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise. But God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19 Why then was the law? It was set because of transgressions, until the seed should come to whom he made the promise, being ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
20 Now a mediator is not of one: but God is one.
21 Was the law then against the promises of God: God forbid! For if there had been a law given which could give life, verily justice should have been by the law.
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise, by the faith of Jesus Christ, might be given to them that believe.
23 But before the faith came, we were kept under the law shut up, unto that faith which was to be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our pedagogue in Christ: that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after the faith is come, we are no longer under a pedagogue.
26 For you are all the children of God, by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized in Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if you be Christ's, then are you the seed of Abraham, heirs according to the promise.

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Chapter 4:


Christ has freed us from the servitude of the law. We are the
freeborn sons of Abraham.

1 As long as the heir is a child, he differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all,
2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed by the father.
3 So we also, when we were children, were serving under the elements of the world.
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent his Son, made of a woman, made under the law:
5 That he might redeem them who were under the law: that we might receive the adoption of sons.
6 And because you are sons, God hath sent the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying: Abba, Father.
7 Therefore, now he is not a servant, but a son. And if a son, an heir also through God.
8 But then indeed, not knowing God, you served them who, by nature, are not gods.
9 But now, after that you have known God, or rather are known by God: how turn you again to the weak and needy elements which you desire to serve again?
10 You observe days and months and times, and years.
11 I am afraid of you, lest perhaps I have laboured in vain among you.
12 Be ye as I, because I also am as you brethren, I beseech you. You have not injured me at all.
13 And you know how, through infirmity of the flesh, I preached the gospel to you heretofore: and your temptation in my flesh
14 You despised not, nor rejected: but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus.
15 Where is then your blessedness? For I bear you witness that, if it could be done, you would have plucked out your own eyes and would have given them to me.
16 Am I then become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
17 They are zealous in your regard not well: but they would exclude you, that you might be zealous for them.
18 But be zealous for that which is good in a good thing always: and not only when I am present with you.
19 My little children, of whom I am in labour again, until Christ be formed in you.
20 And I would willingly be present with you now and change my voice: because I am ashamed for you.
21 Tell me, you that desire to be under the law, have you not read the law?
22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman and the other by a free woman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh: but he of the free woman was by promise.
24 Which things are said by an allegory. For these are the two testaments. The one from Mount Sina, engendering unto bondage, which is Agar.
25 For Sina is a mountain in Arabia, which hath affinity to that Jerusalem which now is: and is in bondage with her children.
26 But that Jerusalem which is above is free: which is our mother.
27 For it is written: Rejoice, thou barren, that bearest not: break forth and cry thou that travailest not: for many are the children of the desolate, more than of her that hath a husband.
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29 But as then he that was born according to the flesh persecuted him that was after the spirit: so also it is now.
30 But what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the free woman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not the children of the bondwoman but of the free: by the freedom wherewith Christ has made us free.

Russians rely on their bottle in war without end

FROM ALICE LAGNADO IN VLADIKAVKAZ, INGUSHETIA IN A barracks in Vladikavkaz, one Russian officer, an old hand who fought in Tajikistan, Afghanistan and both Chechen wars, brandished his glass of vodka. "Why do we drink?" he asked rhetorically. "Ninety men were killed last week in the Argun gorge! Ninety men out of a unit of 96 paratroopers. But if you go there, they will never show you the truth.

"Chechnya will be a second Afghanistan. It won't end soon," the soldier said. "If the Russians leave, the Chechens will fight on. This is the kind of people they are."

Drinking is the only way many soldiers are getting through this hopeless war. They claim large losses in the Chechen village of Komsomolskoye, where a battle has raged for the past week, and in the Argun gorge. The 90 men who died either on Wednesday or Thursday were conscripts, young men in their late teens and early 20s. The tragedy was reported on Russian television in an obscure programme on the first ORT channel on Sunday morning, but news programmes have not breathed a word.

Soldiers also said that in Komsomolskoye 21 soldiers and five officers were killed this week. One officer had his head cut off by the Chechens, they said.

"It's an endless war," Oleg, 23, an officer, said. "It depends on the Chechens' fanaticism. There are also a number of people who are interested in the war not ending. It does not depend on ordinary soldiers - if that were so, the war would have ended a long time ago."

But he added that the Russians were fighting better in this Chechen war. "This time we were prepared for fighting. We are not using so many conscripts who have only shot a gun once before in their lives."

Another young conscript, freshly arrived from near Grozny, said: "It won't end soon. There are political interests behind this. But we have to fight. They have killed so many of ours. Why did they blow up those houses?"

Even if some soldiers are motivated to fight, their reasons seem to be confused compared with the confident logic spoken by Chechen fighters. Mysterious apartment bombings and the deaths of comrades do not match up to defending one's home and family. Moreover, the Russian military does not appear to be able to cope with the guerrilla war in which it finds itself.

One minute the fighters, moving easily through lax Russian checkpoints, are in the mountains, the next in the flatlands, creating a headache for a Russian force that is largely concentrated and lacks the Chechens' mobility and speed.

Pavel Felgenhauer, a military analyst, said sarcastically: "If they nuked Chechnya, then they could win." But as he said, without going that far, Russia will never be victorious.

SALADIN GREAT IDEA

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Pavel Felgenhauer, a military analyst, said sarcastically: "If they nuked Chechnya, then they could win." But as he said, without going that far, Russia will never be victorious.

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antonio:
godDAMN you are wearisome.

give it a rest.
or better yet
take it somewhere else.

http://www.stratfor.com/services/giu2000/031500.ASP

From: "American Hellenic Media Project"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:30:53 -0500
Subject: Austria's Freedom Party and Turkey's MHP?

On February 3rd, Austrian President Thomas Klestil accepted a coalition government that included the far-right Austrian Freedom Party, headed by nationalist Jorg Haider. This sent shockwaves throughout an outraged West, eliciting unprecedented diplomatic sanctions against an EU country.

US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright announced that Washington would limit contacts with Vienna's new government. The EU imposed a "diplomatic quarantine" on Austria, replete with threats to freeze bilateral relations and boycott Austrian ski resorts. Belgium even suggested that consideration might be given to
Austria's expulsion from the 15-nation EU.

In the past, Haider has applauded Nazi veterans, played down German war crimes, and advanced what many consider to be a racist anti-immigrant platform. Why then should the West's reaction be so troubling?

Only two months earlier at Helsinki, the EU granted candidate status to a government co-headed by a right-wing extremist group that makes Austria's nationalists look like boy scouts by comparison.

The Nationalist Action Party, or MHP, more than doubled its votes in parliamentary elections last April and emerged as the second-largest party in Turkey. MHP has been described by Western journalists alternatively as "ultra right-wing" and "neo-fascist".

In Hostage to History, Christopher Hitchens notes that in the 1970's MHP's "youth commandos were held responsible for thousands
of murders and bombings in Turkey". Through the use of death squads, bombings and other violence, the MHP's paramilitary arm, the Grey Wolves, is credited with having killed thousands of public officials, journalists, students, lawyers, labor organizers, social democrats, left-wing activists, ethnic Kurds and other dissidents who opposed their racially-inspired nationalist vision.

While the Grey Wolves are known throughout Europe as one of the largest and most violent terrorist organizations in the world, MHP gained international notoriety when a Grey Wolves terrorist, Mehmet Ali Agca, attempted to assassinate Pope John Paul II in St. Peter's
Square in May of 1981. In 1996, Turkish deputy Sedat Bucak revealed that Grey Wolves chief Abdullah Catli spearheaded a campaign of arson fires that ravaged Greek islands during summer tourist seasons. Catli's death during a notorious 1996 car crash exposed close ties between the Grey Wolves, the Turkish underworld, and the government. While the MHP instituted reforms to improve its image after its founder, Colonel Alparslan Turkes, died in 1997, the party's positions regarding the repression of Kurds and other minorities, its belligerence towards neighboring democracies Greece and Armenia, and its expansionist ambitions for "one Turkish world, from the Adriatic Sea until the Chinese Wall" continue to dominate MHP's core beliefs.

A picture, for example, still hangs in MHP's headquarters with the slogan "Those who lift a hand against the Turk will die like dogs".

In a threat directed towards EU-member Greece, Turkey's new Defense Minister, MHP's Sabahattin Cakmakoglu, declared that "territories, islands and islets that belonged to the Ottoman Empire and were lost during war when later countries emerged, and which are not
named in post-war agreements, should belong to their original owner."

Even Turkish Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit's wife, a deputy chairwoman of her husband's Democratic Left Party that entered into the ruling coalition with MHP, stated that she was "deeply
suspicious" about "the MHP's violent past".

In stark contrast to the maelstrom that resulted in Haider's decision to step down as head of Austria's Freedom Party on February 28th, MHP's accession into Turkey's ruling coalition last May was met with silence by the West.

Arguably, the weight of WWII history, and lesser expectations of developing Turkey, account for part of this inconsistency.

Yet, while Austria was by and large partner to Nazi Germany's exterminationist regime, Turkey's recent history is also tainted by genocide.

In what is widely recognized as the 20th Century's first genocide, the modern Turkish state systematically exterminated 1.5 million
Armenians. Genocides, pogroms and the ethnic cleansing of Turkey's Armenian, Greek and Assyrian minorities reduced Turkey's Christian
population from 4,500,000 at the beginning of this century to less than 150,000 today.

Whereas EU-member Austria is expected to live up to Western democratic ideals, a different yardstick is applied to Turkey -- a country plagued with a host of problems including separatist strife, Islamic fundamentalism, and a state-controlled economy.

For some, this relativism might have held water had Turkey been a far-off third-world country on the fringes of US and European geopolitics. The sobering reality is that Turkey, a long-time NATO
ally, has now achieved EU-candidate status and is knocking at Europe's door. Yet unlike Austria, which has established deeply-rooted democratic institutions, Turkey's constricted democracy continues to languish under military control.

Turkey is among the worst human rights violators on earth, where torture and extra-judicial killings remain a part of its political landscape. For the fifth consecutive year the Turkish state leads the world in imprisoned journalists ahead of China and Syria, and has recently admitted to using death squads to kill as many as 14,000 people since the 1980's.

Most of the 35,000 fatalities arising from Turkey's war against its Kurdish separatists have been Kurds, and Human Rights Watch attributes the vast majority of civilian deaths to Turkish troops.
According to a State Department report, up to 3 million Kurds have been ethnically cleansed by Turkey's military. In 1974, Turkish forces cleansed 200,000 Cypriots after invading the north of Cyprus, which Turkey continues to occupy in violation of UN resolutions and international law.

Although the European Court of Human Rights has ordered the Turkish government to compensate Greek Cypriot Titina Loizidou for the loss of her property seized during Turkey's invasion, Turkey remains the only member of the 40-nation Council of Europe to refuse compliance with a compensation order from its human rights court -- a breach that could lead to Turkey's expulsion from the Council.

Yet nowhere is the incongruity of the West's selective condemnation of the emerging specter of neo-fascism more apparent than in the Israeli reaction.

Upon hearing of Austria's new government, Israel furiously recalled its ambassador from Vienna and warned that it was prepared to sever diplomatic relations with Austria. Yet Israel recently escalated its alliance with Turkey, a partnership which has included zealous pro-Turkish lobbying efforts by prominent Jewish-American
organizations including the Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Congress.

Whereas Jorg Haider has never denied the Holocaust and has repudiated past comments minimizing Nazi crimes, the Turkish state
continues to spend millions in the US and Europe to deny the Armenian Genocide.

The moral absurdity of the children of the survivors of one genocide collaborating with the perpetrators of another is compounded when looking at the MHP's Nazi roots.

While Haider's connection to neo-fascist and anti-Semitic ideology is obscure and largely implied, the MHP's connection is explicit. In his book on the resurgence of neo-fascism, The Beast Reawakens, Martin Lee recounts that MHP founder "Turkes and his revanchist
cohorts had been enthusiastic supporters of Hitler during World War II. 'The Turkish race above all others ' was their Nazi-like credo. In a similar vein, Grey Wolf literature warned of a vast
Jewish-Masonic-Communist conspiracy and its newspapers carried ads for Turkish translations of Nazi texts." During the early part of WWII, Turkes and his fellow nationalists were directly financed by Germany's Nazi government, and Turkes' title was Basbug, meaning Fuhrer.

That Israel is now condemning Austria while advocating on behalf of a government aligned with a fascist organization rooted in anti-Semitic ideology should elicit far more alarm than the accession of the Freedom Party itself.

Ironically, the West could learn a valuable lesson from the very person it has branded a pariah. As part of the agreement to include the Freedom Party in Austria's ruling coalition, Haider signed a pledge urging "permanent alertness against all forms of dictatorship and totalitarianism."

Given our selective tolerance of intolerance, one wonders whether the West will finally learn from its painful past, and take heed of Haider's warning.

_________________
P. D. Spyropoulos
Executive Director of the American Hellenic Media Project (AHMP)
a non-profit think-tank created to address bias in the media and encourage independent, ethical and responsible journalism.

American Hellenic Media Project
PO Box 1150
New York, NY 10028-0008
http://www.ahmp.org

LAMO

A lot of knuckleheads on this board but no one can hold a candle to Dimitri! LOL.

Budding into a conversation about Ayrton Senna with some of his buddies above - Dimitri asks “ which Senna? the Brasilian crashed'n'burned Airton Senna? “ HEHE!

"Crashedn burned" - yeah to a crisp you ass.

Another Rooskie with a nack to understate! LOL.

And a couple of threads down one poster tells him to shove it up his ass and he retorts by, and I quote “I am puzzled by your post..” hahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahhahahahhahahahh!!!!

AllAmerican,

Why don't you try walking upright for a while, you'll end up with chronic backpain from all this LYAO.........

My little exchange with Dimitri, had nothing to do with Senna, or you for that matter......
note the ;o))
No cheap laughs in there for you, I'm afraid...
Kim

ohaya, kisako!
.......0513.......

Kim,

You sound like quite the pristine lassy ...which begs the question; why the company of a Hairy two- bit bullet-riddled Ass HO!