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(@kimarx)
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...But the Grinch, who was o so clever and slick,
thought up a lie, and he thought it up quick...


More attention seekers, I see...
Can anyone be arsed?????????
Kim

Antonio, what's ya source, mate?


   
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(@balalaika)
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Russian passion...


   
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(@kimarx)
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Dimitri, I thought the RF already tried it that way...
😉
Kim


   
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(@L'menexe)
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ohaya, kisako!
i slept through the fun last night
to the extent there was any.
0417am est.


   
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(@L'menexe)
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".....here's that cup of coffee you asked for, major. leastwise it kinda _looks_ like coffee..."

"many thanks, corporal. the provision wagon is due tomorrow...if those blasted injuns dont get to it first, like the last one. are the women safe?"

"as safe as we can git 'em to be hyar, major. but it shore is quiet today, aint it?"

yes, and that would be our concern, corporal. it's quiet, all right....TOO quiet."


   
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(@L'menexe)
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we'll shut of the afternoon matinee long enough to invite our websurfing visitors to the embarrassing spectacle known as "canadianbacon"....a divorced, overweight, 5 foot 4 inch fellow who takes his frustrations out by ranting by at a female DMS poster of long standing.
he knows nothing of what he speaks; nothing at all.
but he tells his loving-yet-fed-up mother he's working on something of 'great import', which explains while he's always online and why she cant ever use the phone.
but as often as he comes here to harass the female DMS poster, he must get some kinda 'charge' out of it. after his divorce, wherein he rightly lost everything to "mental and physical abuse", this is as close to a woman as he can get.

but the lady laughs at him.
and i do too
and YOU will too.
we oughta be selling tickets.


   
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(@canadianbacon)
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Nota bena:


ALL NEW PEOPLE

L'menexe is a pathetic excuse for a man. A whimpering, sobbing mommy's boy whose main aim in life is to get into the pants of a shrewd little female Jew who calls herself Kissie


One can only pity this overweight, diminutive, emotionally and ecomically improvrished little man


   
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 igor
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War Fears as Albanian Fighters Seize Serb Land

Foreign Affairs News
Source: Telegraph (UK)
Published: 3/3/00 Author: Gillian Sandford
Posted on 03/02/2000 19:50:54 PST by Antiwar Republican
ARMED ethnic Albanians are occupying border regions in the south of Serbia and terrorising their inhabitants, raising fears that Nato will be dragged into another Balkan conflict.

The men are believed to be members of a radical offshoot of the Kosovo Liberation Army which fought Serbs in the province last year. At least one "liberated" area of southern Yugoslavia is just yards away from Nato outposts in Kosovo. Although the Serbs have so far refrained from major operations against armed Albanians, there is a rising tide of killings, bombings and terror.

Diplomats in the Yugoslav capital, Belgrade, said the situation was extremely dangerous. Nato has accused the regime of President Slobodan Milosevic of building up troop levels on the border with Kosovo, in breach of the peace deal signed last June to end the Kosovo war, although there is little sign of this on the ground.

All the same, there remains a risk that troops or heavily armed police may launch hot-pursuit raids into the Nato-imposed three-mile demilitarised zone in southern Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia's southern border districts are 80 per cent Albanian. Local men have armed themselves in Kosovo and slipped back over the border to create what some call eastern Kosovo.

In the "liberated" village of Dobrosin, there is a strange silence. The village is empty of children and almost empty of women. Sitting on the Serbian side of the border between Kosovo and Serbia proper, Dobrosin used to have a population of 1,200. Now more than 80 per cent have fled. Most Albanians from the village claim they were driven out by Serbs, but it is a month since any Serb policemen dared to enter Dobrosin.

The truth, although Albanians dare not say it, is that the villagers are not fleeing Serbs, they are leaving their homes because of fellow Albanians. Dobrosin is now controlled by a radical offshoot of the Kosovo Liberation Army - the so-called Liberation Army of Presevo, Medvedje and Bujanovac, the three predominantly Albanian municipalities of southern Serbia that border Kosovo.

The guerrillas drive through the muddy tracks in expensive cars at breakneck speed brandishing Kalashnikov assault rifles. The agenda of the fighters is, they boast, to "liberate" the territory that belongs to Serbia, even though it is peopled by Albanians who have lived peacefully alongside Serbs for years.

The mayor of Dobrosin has fled, like most of his people. Six miles away, the Serb town of Bujanovac houses the local government and hospitals for the municipality covering Dobrosin. The direct route from Bujanovac to Dobrosin is no longer safe, even for Albanians. Foreigners are even less welcome. Earlier this week a United Nations official was shot in both legs while driving towards Dobrosin.

Virtually all communication between the village and the nearest town has now ceased. Meanwhile, the violence in the Bujanovac municipality is fuelling suspicion and enmity. A Serb policeman and a guerrilla were killed in a gun battle at another border village at the weekend when the heating plant in Bujanovac was blown up.

The Serbian mayor of the town, Stojanca Arsic, blames Nato for the situation, saying that KFOR has failed to disarm the rebels and stop their border violations. Dobrosin poses a serious dilemma for the Serb authorities. Although the Serbian deputy Information Minister, Mijodrag Popovic, says Serbia will stick to the terms of its agreement with KFOR and not send troops into the the buffer zone, the fact is that, in the words of Serbia's Blic newspaper "terrorists are operating on Serbian soil".

Nato's response shows it, too, is worried. American peacekeeping troops are rapidly building a base on the other side of the border near Dobrosin and gun turrets now face towards the village.

Nato knows that Dobrosin has the potential to drag it into further war.


   
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(@L'menexe)
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as i said, dear visitors, here he is, the bacon-character. one need look no further than a few hours previous here to find a fine example of a more typical assault. though you'll note that through his gargled response, he is attempting to launch "the usual".
now remember, dont throw food at him and stay far enough away from the bars of his cage so as not to get any splatters on your clothing.


   
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 igor
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RIA Novosti
RUSSIA ACCUSES WEST'S RIGHTS ACTIVISTS OF DOUBLE STANDARDS AS PASSIONS STORM ROUND RADIO LIBERTY REPORTER'S PLIGHT WHILE TASS REPORTER'S VIOLENT DEATH IS SHRUGGED OFF






Western officials and rights activists are extremely reticent, to put it mildly, with the news of Vladimir Yatsina, ITAR-TASS photo reporter, dead at the hands of Chechen militants. Reserved response to the outrage reveals double standards as sensations are whipped up with controversies round Radio Liberty reporter Andrei Babitsky, who is alive and in fairly good condition, and round a footage advertised by Frank Hefling of Germany's N-24 television company, in which militants killed in action are passed for civilian torture victims.


Those double standards are casting a shadow on the very idea of human rights to jeopardise the Western community worse than anyone. Really, activists are pointedly defending Chechnya's basic rights - of labour, education, health and life itself - to pass in silence their blatant violation by the Dudayev and Maskhadov regimes. Propaganda is on in favour of Chechen militants, and never mind that they are trampling underfoot all moral norms.


Western officials and media are massively supporting Andrei Babitsky, whose coverage of the events was playing into their hand though trespassing the Russian law. Moscow came under a storm of threats and accusations after that Russian national was toughly called to comply with the federal legislation and spent several days in detention.


Now, every Western television channel has broadcast the Hefling footage of federal soldiers' alleged atrocities.


In dire contrast, the media and rights activists are complacent and reserved with the coverage of Vladimir Yatsina's tragic death and of slave traffic in the Maskhadov-controlled part of Chechnya.


The US Administration's stance is even more conspicuous. James Rubin, spokesman of the Department of State, yesterday acknowledged available proof of Vladimir Yatsina's murder by Chechen militants and promised a tough response in case the information was confirmed - as if numerous and detailed eyewitness accounts of his eight months in captivity, which ended in a bullet through his head, and of cruel treatment of other captives were not enough.


Meanwhile, unsubstantiated allegations of Russian soldiers' atrocities are welcome in Washington, D.C. The same Mr. Rubin promptly and sternly responded to the Babitsky odyssey and the N-24 footage without caring to verify the facts.


The US Administration appears extremely unwilling to know the whole truth about Chechnya. Highly indicative was a refusal to issue an entry visa for Alla Heifman after several US-based public organisations jointly invited her to have a rest cure. The schoolgirl from Central Russia's Samara, aged 13, spent half a year in Chechen captivity to be rescued with two fingers chopped off. The harassed and mutilated child's story will clash with the prettified image of militants and with mud thrown at federals by journalists sharing Andrei Babitsky's viewpoint. Perhaps, that is why the girl is kept off the United States.


It is hard to whitewash the banditry with Vladimir Yatsina's tragedy and the fate of another 800 captives. Western rights partisans, high officers and newsmen are not coming up in their defence, though what the world sees in Chechnya is dire violation of the rights of life, freedom and safety proclaimed by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights back in 1948, which expressly bans slavery and forced labour.


More blood-curdling accounts of bandit atrocities came with the recent rescue of three captives who had been together with Vladimir Yatsina to be taken away by the Akhmadov brothers' gang as it was retreating to the mountains from federal troops. As one of the three, Kirill Perchenko, 22, of Moscow, said in a public statement, Yatsina and another hostage, an Azeri, were in a bad state and could not walk on when the point of destination was a mere three or four kilometres away. The Azeri man was on the march with several younger captives, who carried him, while Vladimir Yatsina was plodding in the column rear, a guard to either side. When they saw he could not make another step, he was given a coup de grace.


The three rescued men saw him dead, abandoned at the roadside, as they were walking back to freedom.


Kirill Perchenko saw the horrible death of several other captives. Lieutenant Colonel Andrei Zhuchkov, retired military intelligence veteran, was clubbed to death. Dmitri Bobryshev of the Ministry for Emergency and Calamity Relief, kidnapped in Nazran, Ingushetia's capital, attacked a guard and was beheaded. Another man was decapitated - one Aleksandr, an ethnic Russian resident of Grozny, whose second name Kirill did not know. The executioner was so quick and skilful with the beheading that Perchenko guessed he had previously cut off a great many heads.


The sadists gave forty sticks to a captive woman who had done their laundry and arranged socks to dry near a stove so that they smelt of smoke - she had no other fault.


Another two captives had their fingers chopped off.


It took several countries' authorities and newsmen several days to publicly condemn Chechen terrorists and their slave-trading chieftains after Vladimir Yatsina's fate became globally known.


The most radical statement came from the Knesset as it landslided a resolution drafted by Israel Our Home, a political party representing Russian emigres. The MPs are siding with Russia on its anti-terrorist operation in Chechnya, and voice "recognition of every country's right to protect its citizens from terror and organised crime".


Aslan Maskhadov is offering negotiations once again, and again is the West insisting on peace while shrugging off the doom of the many captives. As far as Russian law enforcement agencies know, there are many Westerners among them, whose governments and mass media are carried away with a campaign to protect militants, and appear to have forgotten their unlucky compatriots' basic rights.


   
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(@kimarx)
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Igor,

What happened to those hostages was inhuman, nobody can deny it...
But surely Russia can't be saying : "look what they did,that justifies anything we do."

One would expect that Russians would know better, after all they agreed to protect Human Rights in 1973!!, when they signed the Helsinki agreement with the OSCE.
Your loyalty to your country is commendable, but a mature voter, is someone who questions the actions of their elected representatives.


   
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(@balalaika)
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>>L'menexe is a pathetic excuse for a man. A whimpering, sobbing mommy's boy whose main aim in life is to get into the pants of a shrewd little female Jew who calls herself Kissie

cb,

I agree with you - there has been too much sobbing from him, along with all these word play with Kissie/Kisako (btw, Kisako is a female name in Japan)


   
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oh baby igor:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20000303/wl/mdf54641.html

i thought the war is over!!


   
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(@balalaika)
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According to private Russian media, 37 Russian posicemen were killed after the brave Chechen ambush yesterday (rather than 20, as was officially annonced today). The number may be even larger still, since many russians are badly wounded. The ambush appears to be a revenge for russian massacre at Alhan-Kala.


   
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