By AllAustralian ( - 207.140.138.195) on Tuesday, May 16, 2000 - 02:47 pm:
WHERE'S THAT DJUMA ORANGUTANI..STILL BUSY LEARNING TOILET PAPER? LOL
THAT BACON SCHWEIN WILL SUPPLY ALL FREEDOM FUCKKKKING.. ER.. FIGHTING MUSLIM SHITt WITH USED TOILET PAPER HE'S SOOOOOOOOOOO EXPERT TO WASTE ON HIS FAT ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHOLE OF A MOUTH!LOL!!

No doubt this gentleman is a product of Russian education!!!

To Dimitri,

Whatever Djuman Namangani shortcommings are, compared to a mental midget like you, he is an Einstein.

Incidently according to the laws of Russia (mafia laws) What happens to you Dimitri for swearing? Do you get the tips of your fingers chopped off? so you bleed to death slowly.

After WWI, Traitorous Armenian bastards were a fifth column in Turkey. Before the Armenians were themselves were massacred. Armenians were responsible for the massacre of hundreds of thousands of Turks at Van.

Hmmm. I've never heard about this before. The only big scale fight happend by armenian town SARDAROBAD- (can be translated from turks as TOWN OF FRIENDS. Turks was aggressors, but that time armenian hit back.
Ani of your sources or be more specific per favor.

By me ( - 152.163.197.191) on Tuesday, May 16, 2000 - 11:14 pm:
After WWI, Traitorous Armenian bastards were a fifth column in Turkey. Before the Armenians were themselves were massacred. Armenians were responsible for the massacre of hundreds of thousands of Turks at Van.

To me,


Armenians had allied themselves at this time with Russia, in the hope of establishing an Armenian state within Turkey, check out:

Turkey; 6th edition
Tom Brosnahan & Pat Yale
Published July 1999
ISBN: 0 86442 599 6

One thing I am grateful for is not being subject to the absurd and medacious posts of that awful Jewess.

Old timers here will know who I mean.

HELLO, HERR COMRADEZ!!!THESE ARE GREAT TIMES, WE ARE LIVING !!WE ARE AS JOLLY GREEN GIANT.., WITH GUNS.., WLAKING AROUND SAND-COLOR MUSLIM HEATHEN!!WE WILL CRUSH BONES, OF THOSE INFIDELS, IN GREAT TRADITION, OF OUR FOREFATHERS!!SALUD.., TO YOU ALL, EXCEPT FOR, L'mnexe-MO, and his kind..THE INGRATE-UNEDUCATED MFR'S!!!You Phlebous COWARDS... know who you are...LMAO...(-;

WE STRIKE TERROR , IN THE HEARTS AND BUTTOCKAL REGIONS, OF THE CHECHYN COWARDICE GUYZ!!!!

...JOKE FOR YOU, MY FRIENDS..."WHY DO CHECHYN WOMEN COOK..WITH NO UNDERWEAR ON???"


..TO KEEP FLIES OFF THE FOOD!!!!...

*Turks Deny Jewish Holocaust*

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Ankara - Turkish Daily News
May 12, 2000

Turkey retaliates strongly against Israel

Turkish government and military adopt a unified stand against Israel.

Despite the existing strong military ties between Turkey and Israel the Turkish government and the military adopted a unified stand against Israel's failure to make a satisfactory explanation of statements by Israeli Cabinet ministers over the so-called Armenian genocide. Turkey has sent a strong message to Israel by instructing Cabinet ministers as well as senior generals not to attend the Israeli national day reception held on Wednesday night
An Israeli Embassy official said, "As Israel we got Turkey's message very clearly." It is not the first time that the so-called Armenian genocide issue has been raised by Israel. Ankara rejected the appointment of a new Israeli ambassador, Ehud Toledono, to Ankara in 1997 over Toledono's claims on the Armenian massacre. Despite ups and downs in Turkish-Israeli relations over the Armenian issue the strong military ties between the two appear to be on an irreversible course

Lale Sariibrahimoglu

Turkey has responded to Israel's failure to give a satisfactory explanation to Ankara over statements made by two ministers in support
of the so-called Armenian genocide. Turkey's strong retaliation against Israel came on the night of Israel's national day reception
held on Wednesday night in Ankara.

Upon instructions from the Turkish Foreign Ministry, the Cabinet as well as the top commanders of the Turkish military, which has strong ties to the Israeli military, did not turn up at the reception in protest at the Israeli government's indifference to the statements made by its two Cabinet ministers. An Israeli Embassy source in Ankara speaking to the Turkish Daily News said, "We [Israel] got Turkey's message [Ankara's retaliation against Israel] last night [the night of the reception] from the level of participation." Unlike previous national day receptions following the establishment of particularly strong military ties with the signing by Turkey and Israel of the military cooperation agreement in 1996, this year's national day reception witnessed a relatively low-level attendance on the Turkish side since top generals as well as Cabinet members were absent. There were a very few two to three-star generals as well as some deputies who left the reception as early as possible.

But as a courtesy gesture to the Israeli military former Chief of General Staff Gen. Ismail Hakki Karadayi, who also attended the Israeli national day reception as acting top commander two years ago, as well as presidential military advisor retired Gen. Nezihi Cakir were among the guests at the reception. A performance of Israeli folk
dances in which guests later joined passed in a rather dull atmosphere due to Ankara's protest against Israel.

Ankara expects satisfactory statement from Israel.


The latest tension between Ankara and Tel Aviv occurred when Israeli Education Minister Yossi Sarid made a statement in early April recommending the so-called Armenian genocide be placed on Israel's high-school curriculum. One day after Sarid's statement was made, Israeli Justice Minister Yossi Beilin claimed that the event was nothing but genocide. Turkey denies that an Armenian genocide took place and sees the pro-Armenian genocide circles as the ones
distorting history. Since the statements made by the two Israeli ministers Tel Aviv has not given Ankara a satisfactory reply. Instead, through its embassy in Ankara, Israel said that there had been no policy change towards Ankara on the Israeli side over the so-called Armenian genocide and that the two Cabinet ministers had been
expressing their personal views.


Despite Ankara's dissatisfaction with the Israeli approach Tel Aviv has since then failed to make an official announcement that has to come from the Israeli government. "It is not convincing to say that 'these were the personal views of cabinet members.' It is also possible that Turkey could question the holocaust of the Jews. But we
are not doing that," said a Turkish diplomatic source.

Are future relations at risk?

It is not the first time that the so-called Armenian genocide issue has been raised by Israel. Ankara rejected the appointment of a new
Israeli ambassador, Ehud Toledono, to Ankara in 1997 over Toledono's claims over the Armenian massacre.

It is also known that Turkish-Israeli military relations are questioned from time to time, both in Ankara and particularly in Israel, as some members of the Israeli elite, including Foreign
Ministry officials, have raised the rationale behind the close military ties between the two countries, jeopardizing Tel Aviv's restoration of relations with countries such as Syria. In the
meantime, Ankara has from time to time made its unease over any possible attempts by Tel Aviv to use Turkey's Euphrates and Tigris river waters in the equation of its peacemaking efforts with Turkey's neighbor Syria. There are also some suspicion in Ankara over whether Turkish-Israeli relations might drop to a secondary level when Israel finally makes peace with Syria.

The Israeli Embassy source in Ankara speaking to the TDN voiced his hope that relations would be back on track. The question is now to what extent Turkish-Israeli military ties will be affected by this recent row with Israel on the so-called Armenian genocide. Professor Hasan Koni of Ankara University's International Relations Department says that Turkey has currently been pursuing a policy of reaction to Israel's move on the Armenian genocide claims. He, however, denies
that military ties will be affected by issue.

Turkish military as well as defense industry ties with Israel have risen to an almost institutional level that, as many analysts argue, is immune to ups and downs between Ankara and Tel Aviv. But it is also true that the Turkish military has also signalled its deep displeasure to Israel over the two Cabinet ministers' approach and Israel's
failure to make a satisfactory explanation to Ankara. It remains to be seen whether the regular biannual strategic talks held between Turkey
and Israel as part of the military cooperation agreement will be held in June as scheduled.

By Dimitri ( - 63.85.63.20) on Monday, May 15, 2000 - 06:28 pm:
Kim,
oh, I see. Well, I don't think my observation on this issue would be very accurate, due to the fact I don't really live there (Odessa, Ukraine is the only place I visit every now and then).

*Ya tozhe Odessi lublu. Ochen khochu idti suda. Fsegda Odessa v maya tserdtsa.

*Eifo Kissie? Kissie, eifo ata? ma nishma v ata eifo garah? lamah ata lo poh?

RFE/RL Armenia: Turkish-Israeli Relations Suffer Over Genocide
May 15, 2000

By Jolyon Naegele

Relations between military allies Turkey and Israel took a turn for the worse last week when Turkish cabinet ministers and senior military officers boycotted the Israeli Embassy's national day reception in Ankara. RFE/RL correspondent Jolyon Naegele reports that the boycott was in response to recent comments made by two Israeli ministers referring to the genocide of
Armenians by Ottoman Turkey.

Prague, 15 May 2000 (RFE/RL) -- Attendance by senior Turkish officials at the Israeli Embassy's independence day reception on 10 May was the lowest since Turkey and Israel signed a military cooperation agreement four years ago that
resulted in the two countries becoming close military and intelligence allies.

The two countries share common enemies, above all Syria and Iraq, and to a lesser extent Iran.

The cause of Turkish displeasure was comments late last month by two Israeli cabinet members marking the 85th anniversary of the outbreak of mass killings of ethnic Armenians by Ottoman Turkish forces. Turkey denies Armenian claims
that the massacres constituted genocide.

Israeli Education Minister Yossi Sarid, attending an Armenian memorial ceremony in Jerusalem, announced that the mass killings of Jews, Arabs,
Albanians, Armenians, Bosnians, Roma (Gypsies) and Rwandans will be a part of a new Israeli history curriculum dealing with genocide. The next day, Israeli Justice Minister Yossi Beilin also said the massacre of Ottoman Turkey's
Armenians was genocide.

The Turkish Foreign Ministry responded by summoning the Israeli charge d'affaires in Ankara for an explanation. But Turkish authorities were angered by Israel's response -- that the remarks did not constitute a policy change toward Ankara and that the two cabinet ministers had been expressing their personal views.

Turkish dailies on 12 May alleged that Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit was not informed about the level of reaction against Israel at the Israeli reception. But whether that means he believes his government overreacted, or whether it is an attempt to absolve himself of responsibility, remains unclear.

A decree signed by Deputy Prime Minister Husamettin Ozkan recommended that government ministers not attend the Israeli reception because of the recent statements by two Israeli ministers. Senior military commanders also avoided
the reception.

This is just the latest in a series of setbacks to Israeli-Turkish relations. Turkish authorities have been expressing concern recently that in the event of a rapprochement between Israel and Syria, Turkey will lose its significance as a military and intelligence partner for Israel.

But Turkey is also trying to improve its strained relations with Syria. Turkish Economy Minister Recep Onal led a trade delegation of 270 participants to Damascus last week. He concluded cooperation agreements in the fields of
commerce, investment promotion, tourism, transport, oil, and customs.

Relations began to improve a year ago after Turkey threatened Syria with military action unless it deported Turkish-Kurdish insurgent leader Abdullah Ocalan. Ocalan left Syria and, after spending several months on the run, was
captured in Kenya with third-country assistance. Both the U.S. and Israel have denied they were involved.

Israeli-Turkish relations suffered three years ago, when Turkey rejected Israel's nomination for ambassador to Ankara over the nominee's contention
that the Turkish massacres of Armenians constituted genocide. And in general,
religiously Muslim but politically secular Turkey is under constant pressure from Iran and the Arab world to end its special relationship with Israel. The latest contretemps has done nothing to mollify the traditionally anti-Armenian
Turkish press. A commentary in the Istanbul daily "Star" by Semih Idiz last week tried to diminish the significance of the massacres, saying that neither side really knows what happened.

Meanwhile, in another setback for Turkey, the Lebanese parliament on 11 May adopted a resolution "recognizing and condemning the [Armenian] genocide and voicing its complete support for the demands of [Lebanon's] Armenian citizens; considering the international recognition of the genocide as a pre-condition
for the prevention of such possible crimes in the future."

Lebanon's Armenian community, the descendants of survivors of the 1915-16 genocide, is represented in the Lebanese parliament by six deputies.

Lebanon's relations with Turkey have never been friendly, and Turkey continues to be resented for its colonial past.

But the resolution marks a substantial change for Lebanon. Just three years ago, the Lebanese parliament issued a resolution that made no use of the word "genocide," but rather referred to what it described as "the massacres committed against the Armenian people."

K-san has bigger fish to fry at the moment. How many times do you want her to kick you up the Arse, anyway?

YO BACON:

we've been there/done that.
one would have hoped you woulda learned a new
routine or two in your time away.
guess not, huh?

as kim said, Kisako has better things to do.
and you were flattened by _many_ of us
in your previous incarnation.

we've been there/done that.

' Armenians had allied themselves at this time with Russia, in the hope of establishing an Armenian state within Turkey, check out:
Turkey; 6th edition
Tom Brosnahan & Pat Yale '
YO, TERRORIST BANANA!
IS IT PART OF REHAB IN YOUR NUTHOUSE?LOL

FIRST CHECHNYA THEN PAKISTAN!

Satyanarayan Mishra, an inhabitant of the town of Barajpur in the state
of Orissa, India, is returning home from Moscow today.


In October 1998, being a third-year student of the State Medical Academy
in Daghestan, he was taken hostage by Chechen terrorists.


As is asserted by members of his family, the terrorists demanded a
ransom of 50,000 dollars. When it became clear that Mishra's father, a
secondary school principal in a provincial town, was not able to pay
such a sum, the terrorists decided to use the Indian student as
manpower.


After a year and a half of Chechen slavery he was released, among other
hostages, as a result of the anti-terrorist operation of the Russian
forces.