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(@aaronliebson)
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I am a Jew, and the fact of the matter is, like my brother S.M. I hate muslims and to a lessesr degree christians too. ONLY WE JEWS ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE all you others will eventually capitulate before our superiority.

Long live Israel
Long live the dream of Zionism

Death to muslims
Death to christians


   
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(@ahmed)
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Although this is not a place to discuss one's faith, beliefs or ideology, but since I have been impersonated and assaulted by racial slurs due to my commitment to Islam, I would like to give my synopsis on the Women in Islam.

At a time when Islam is faced with hostile media coverage particularly where the status of women in Islam is concerned, it may be quite surprising to learn that the majority of converts to Islam are WOMEN.

The Muslim woman was given a role, duties and rights 1400 years ago that most women do not enjoy today, even in the West. These are designed to keep balance in society; what may seem unjust or missing in one place is compensated for or explained in another place.


   
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(@ahmed)
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THE QUESTION OF HIJAB:
SUPPRESSION OR LIBERATION

"Why do Muslim women have to cover their heads?" This question is one which is asked by Muslim and non-Muslim alike. For many women it is the truest test of being a Muslim.
The answer to the question is very simple - Muslim women observe HIJAB (covering the head and the body) because Allah has told them to do so.
"O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women to draw their outer garments around them (when they go out or are among men). That is better in order that they may be known (to be Muslims) and not annoyed..." (Qur'an 33:59)
Other secondary reasons include the requirement for modesty in both men and women. Both will then be evaluated for intelligence and skills instead of looks and sexuality. An Iranian school girl is quoted as saying, "We want to stop men from treating us like sex objects, as they have always done. We want them to ignore our appearance and to be attentive to our personalities and mind. We want them to take us seriously and treat us as equals and not just chase us around for our bodies and physical looks."
A Muslim woman who covers her head is making a statement about her identity. Anyone who sees her will know that she is a Muslim and has a good moral character. Many Muslim women who cover are filled with dignity and self esteem; they are pleased to be identified as a Muslim woman. As a chaste, modest, pure woman, she does not want her sexuality to enter into interactions with men in the smallest degree. A woman who covers herself is concealing her sexuality but allowing her femininity to be brought out.
The question of hijab for Muslim women has been a controversy for centuries and will probably continue for many more. Some learned people do not consider the subject open to discussion and consider that covering the face is required, while a majority are of the opinion that it is not required. A middle line position is taken by some who claim that the instructions are vague and open to individual discretion depending on the situation. The wives of the Prophet (S) were required to cover their faces so that men would not think of them in sexual terms since they were the "Mothers of the Believers," but this requirement was not extended to other women.
The word "hijab" comes from the Arabic word "hajaba" meaning to hide from view or conceal. In the present time, the context of hijab is the modest covering of a Muslim woman. The question now is what is the extent of the covering?
The Qur'an says: "Say to the believing man that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that will make for greater purity for them; and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.
"And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; and that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands..." (Qur'an 24:30-31)
These verses from the Qur'an contain two main injunctions: (1) A woman should not show her beauty or adornments except what appears by uncontrolled factors such as the wind blowing her clothes, and (2) the head covers should be drawn so as to cover the hair, the neck and the bosom.
Islam has no fixed standard as to the style of dress or type of clothing that Muslims must wear. However, some requirements must be met. The first of these requirements is the parts of the body which must be covered.
Islam has two sources for guidance and rulings: first, the Qur'an, the revealed word of Allah and secondly, the Hadith or the traditions of the Prophet Muhammad (S) who was chosen by Allah to be the role model for mankind. The following is a Tradition of the Prophet:
"Ayesha (R) reported that Asmaa the daughter of Abu Bakr (R) came to the Messenger of Allah (S) while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: 'O Asmaa! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands." (Abu Dawood)
The second requirement is looseness. The clothing must be loose enough so as not to describe the shape of the woman's body. One desirable way to hide the shape of the body is to wear a cloak over other clothes. However, if the clothing is loose enough, an outer garment is not necessary.
Thickness is the third requirement. The clothing must be thick enough so as not to show the color of the skin it covers or the shape of the body. The Prophet Muhammad (S) stated that in later generations of his ummah there would be "women who would be dressed but naked and on top of their heads (what looks like) camel humps. Curse them for they are truly cursed." (Muslim)
Another requirement is an over-all dignified appearance. The clothing should not attract men's attention to the woman. It should not be shiny and flashy so that everyone notices the dress and the woman.
In addition there are other requirements:
(1) Women must not dress so as to appear as men. "Ibn Abbas narrated: 'The Prophet (S) cursed the men who appear like women and the women who appear like men.'" (Bukhari)
(2) Women should not dress in a way similar to the unbelievers.
(3) The clothing should be modest, not excessively fancy and also not excessively ragged to gain others admiration or sympathy.
Often forgotten is the fact that modern Western dress is a new invention. Looking at the clothing of women as recently as seventy years ago, we see clothing similar to hijab. These active and hard-working women of the West were not inhibited by their clothing which consisted of long, full dresses and various types of head covering. Muslim women who wear hijab do not find it impractical or interfering with their activities in all levels and walks of life.
Hijab is not merely a covering dress but more importantly, it is behavior, manners, speech and appearance in public. Dress is only one facet of the total being.
The basic requirement of the Muslim woman's dress apply to the Muslim man's clothing with the difference being mainly in degree. Modesty requires that the area between the navel and the knee be covered in front of all people except the wife. The clothing of men should not be like the dress of women, nor should it be tight or provocative. A Muslim should dress to show his identity as a Muslim. Men are not allowed to wear gold or silk. However, both are allowed for women.

For both men and women, clothing requirements are not meant to be a restriction but rather a way in which society will function in a proper, Islamic manner.


   
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(@jennifere)
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To all the ignorant members of the humman race who like to fabricate things about Islam, this especially concerns uneducated persons like S.M. I will not even bother addressing complete bigots like Fernez

Throughout history it was Christianity and the catholic church that perpetuated the greatest genocide. Islam gave property and divorce rights to women over two thousand years ago. What you ignorant men on this message board are mixing, by mistake or deliberately is arabic culture with religon.

By the way, I am an American woman, an alumni of Vasser College, happily married to an Egyptian (Muslim) Doctor for the last 12 years.

To, S.M

Your assumptions and lies about Islam merely reflect your pathetic upbringing and prejudice. I only pity people like you.

Also S.M. do you know how Jewish fundamentalists treat women. BY ITS NATURE, JEWISH CULTURE IS SEXIST, CHRISTIAN CULTURE IS SEXIST


   
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(@denis)
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Dear S.M.,

Any religion is sexist. I know that women are not permitted into the hierarchy of the Russian Orthodox Church. And, I can not remember any female cardinals, Popes or Dalai-Lamas either.

Yours faithfully,
Denis A. Vassiltchev


   
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 omar
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To Jennifer E.

as salamu alikum.

brothers
omar


   
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 omar
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To Aaron liebson

. ONLY WE JEWS ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE all you others will eventually capitulate before our superiority.

I WANT TO KNOW WHERE DID GOD CHOSE JEWS OVER ANY RACE.

IF JEWS ARE CHOOSEN, WHY DID LET SLAUGHTER JEWS BY HITLER.

YOUR RACE ARE UNGREATFULL TO YOUR LORD AND MANKIND, REMEMBER IF THE MUSLIM DID NOT SAVE YOU AT 1100, WHEN CHATHOLIC WERE SLAUGHETERING YOUR FOX, YOU WILL NOT EXIST TODAY, YOU JEW BOY,


OMAR


   
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TO SM

I AM READY TO PROVE YOU WITH SCIENTFIC PROOF AND AVIDANCE THAT GOD EXIST AND THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD. YOU ARE NOT HERE BY MISTAKE.

REPLY
OMAR


   
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(@afghanman)
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O Muslims! Your foremost issue, the vital issue is the issue of Islam: through bringing back the Khilafah and applying the Law of Allah (swt) and uniting the Muslims under the flag of one Khaleefah, and carrying Islam, to the world through da'wah and Jihad in order to make the Islamic state the leading nation in the world, and to make the Islamic Ummah the best Ummah brought forth for mankind.


   
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(@russianman)
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TERRORISTS ARE SUFFERING HEAVY LOSSES!

DIE, CHECHEN FREEDOM FIGHTERS, DIE!

KILL ISLAMIC TERRORISTS, KILL!


   
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(@texan)
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***An Iranian school girl is quoted as saying, "We want to stop men from treating us like sex objects, as they have always done. We want them to ignore our appearance and to be attentive to our personalities and mind. We want them to take us seriously and treat us as equals and not just chase us around for our bodies and physical looks."
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HAHAHAHA HOW IRONIC!!!! WOMEN ARE NOT ALLOWED IN SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!! GOT YOU!!!!!!!!


   
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(@texan)
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JENNIFER I BET YOU SHAVE YOUR LEGS AND DON"T WEAR THAT FUNKY SMEALY ROBE!!!!!


   
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(@afghanman)
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The Muslim Ummah will never submit to the Jews

No one likes the Jews except the Jews. Even the themselves rarely like each other. ALLAH (swt) said:

'You would think they were united, but their hearts are divided' [TMQ 59:14]

The American people do not like the Jews nor do the Europeans, because the Jews by their very nature do not like anyone else. Rather they look at other people as wild animals which have to be tamed to serve them. So, how can we imagine it being possible for any Arab or Muslim to like the Jews whose character is such?

Do not be deceived by these lies. The Jews are cowards, they are a people of money and not a people of fighting. The Western countries are not with the Jews, rather they are with their own interests.

O Muslims! Banish despair from your hearts and trust your Deen and trust your Lord who says to you:

'So do not become weak (against your enemy), nor be sad, and you will be superior (in victory) if you are indeed (true) believers'.[TMQ 3:139]

Know that the Jews and their usurping state in Palestine will, by the Help and Mercy of Allah (swt), be destroyed '..until the stones and trees will say: O Muslim, O Slave of Allah. Here is a Jew behind me so come and kill him'. The signs indicate that this time is about to come In the forthcoming days the Muslims will conquer Rome and the dominion of the Ummah of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him and his family) will reach the whole world and the rule of the Muslims will reach as far as the day and night. And the Deen of Muhammad (saw) will prevail over all other ways of life including Western Capitalism and the culture of Western Liberalism:

'It is He Who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the true Deen to make it victorious over all other Deens (ways of life) even though the Mushrikeen (polytheists) hate it'. [TMQ 61:9]

AFGHAN MAN


   
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(@texan)
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OMAR I ACCEPT YOUR CHALLENGE!!!! OMAR PROVE ME ALLAH IS HERE!!!! LET HIM APPEARE BEFORE ME AND FIGHT ME!!!! IF HE DOESN"T SHOW UP IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS HE IS EITHER A WUSS OR DOESN"T EXIST. OK, I AM WAITING. HEREE ALLAHHAAH ALLAHAA HERE KITTIE ALLAHAHA!!!!!! US RULEZ ISLAM RULEZ TOO CUZ WOMEN ARE SLAVES AND KILLED WHEN THEY HAVE SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE!!! TALK ABOUT NO COMMITMENT RELATIONSHIPS@!


   
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(@texan)
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HEY AFGHAN MAN, LET'S KILL ALL THE JEWS IN ISRAEL AND GIVE PALESTINE IS LAND BACK?!!


   
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